Mike Peinovich / Mike Enoch & The Right Stuff (therightstuff.biz) - Lazy Podcasting Clique, Pepe the Frog Fetishists, Doxed by /pol/, Fed Honeypot for Gullible Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theorists.

[I'm a Silly]

Being anti-Christian is really retarded on an organizational level. I get being against Christianity personally, but you have to include Christians if you want to get anywhere. Any Christian willing to join a far-right org isn't going to reflect the flaws of Christianity anyway. If you want to run a no-Christians allowed club or whatever then just do that, you don't need to pretend to be a political party.

Same goes for the he-man woman-hater MRA hangover among the lolbertarian-to-Russia-shill pipeline occupied by TRS. Their mixed messages are insanely fake and gay sounding, especially these days. It comes off as insincere instead of the usual Fuentes homo-woman-hate. They tack things on at the ends of rants as though they fear they might be bleeding subscribers. As long as their paybeasts can identify their way out of being female/trumptard/creekshitter/whatever, everything is gucci.

Off the top of my head, Fuentes has said similar things many times. I've also interacted with a ton of so-called pro-White anons who were fine with marrying based latinas or asians as long as they were Christian. Beyond the racial aspect though, I've also seen plenty of ecumenical slap fights. Usually it's Protestants picking fights with Catholics, but sometimes I see the reverse, too.

This shit always happens. It's why certain people go overboard and try to push out Christianity altogether.

I went to an antiwar-ish protest and met a [cath] seminary student who, upon learning I was raised Lutheran, couldn't wait to impress me by claiming that Martin Luther had severe gastrointestinal issues. He also thought I was addressing him when I was talking to my dog.
People are weird.

 

[Neodanthril]

I've also interacted with a ton of so-called pro-White anons who were fine with marrying based latinas or asians as long as they were Christian.

To be fair I've heard the same thing from non Christian wignats, so i don't think it's fair to blame this issue on Christianity. Ratheri think it's just human nature to hold idiosyncratic beliefs when it suits them

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Warstrike in less than 5 years

 

[Neodanthril]

more nathan damigo coal. wont post any more of his stuff unless it is funny since i am aware it is getting quite offtopic. only posting this because the previous antichristian post of his was quite old and these were from this friday so he certianly hasnt recanted his position on the matter. it is funny to me though that he is now making a distinction between Christian and zionist despite clearly believing they are one and the same. never stop optics cucking nathan

 

[The Hardest R]

I think the vast majority of pro-White and conservative people are going to be Christian. Decrying the dead kike on a stick is going to repel people away from your cause. I also agree that there are many branches of Christianity that are diseased as we see the “Christians” who want to sue Trump because he took away their rapefugee gibs. However ultimately if people demand more accountability from their religion, versions that will be more hostile to Whites will give way to those that aren’t. This is why some religions like Unitarianism and Episcopalianism are really struggling right now. If you just make it only about social justice and loving niggers more than your fellow Whites, you don’t need religion for that when the media does the exact same thing without having to sacrifice your Sunday morning to boot. I think fighting the concept of Christianity is a losing battle right now if you want to rally more White support. You’re not going to get Whites to sign up for paganism or some uber esoteric (read: autistic) interpretation of religion like Richard Spencer.

 

[Ishtar]

What is it with the obsession with Christ mythicism amongst the anti Christian elements of the DR. This book(I think?) and Brahmin's Apollo nonsense both throw back to the Zeitgeist film, Richard Carrier and Bruno Bauer.

If you wanted an anti Christian narrative-here's an easy one;

Jesus was a (failed) Apocalyptic prophet executed for rabble rousing, his followers due to a mixture of grief and despair basically convinced themselves he rose from the dead, and Christianity survived through a mixture of separating itself from Judaism after 70 AD and cognitive dissonance.

This is basically the view of every non religious NT scholar. Including Bart Ehrman. That acknowledges Jesus was a historical figure and doesn't indulge this fringe nonsense.

Of course, I'll answer my own question-Christ mythicism is much more emotionally satisfying and fits the anti semite's mental schema for processing historical events rather than mundane historical exigencies.

(Notably Bauer was an influence on Marx-so apart of me suspects that Christ mythicism is something that any political or metapolitical movement indulges in to fulfill some sort of overarching revolutionary impetus).

For political concerns though yes, the whole "kike on a stick" thing is going to ensure permanent marginalization(though I also suspect the sort of people who use that expression like complaining in telegram chats and would not have it any other way).

 

[Noble Redditor]

It seems that the correct approach is what Uncle Adolf took - be publicly Christian, but true to Europe behind closed doors. When - if - we secure our survival, then we can start getting rid of Hebrew tomes.

To me this is a much more honest and realistic approach than the loud and obnoxious Christians who wrongly believe that mass converting the population to Christ will somehow restore white European values. I know a self righteous moron will tell me that European values are based on Christianity, but then argue endless semantics about why majority brown, majority Christian countries are still somehow always trash. "Real Christianity has never been tried!!"

If you want to see white people thrive and develop a racial consciousness (which is essential) you absolutely have to put race over religion in many circumstances. Only a brain-broken autist would believe that the major issues in America and Europe stem from the fact that we aren't Christian enough. The Christian church in America and Europe is fully subverted to liberalism and globalism which makes society worse - and ironically less "Christian."

Personally, I'm a Christian. I believe in Christ and his words have given me clarity in times of uncertainty. I pray to God with my family and his message guides me to be a better leader of our household.

But when it comes to societal issues I put race first. God wants us to protect our homes and our communities. God wants strong families because it's essential to survive. I identify and have more in common with a white atheist than a Mexican who believes the Bible.

you have to include Christians if you want to get anywhere.

Implying they're advocating for something different is incredibly dishonest and a misrepresentation that has to be intentional. Nobody is saying that Christians aren't welcome in their little clubhouse. They're saying that the issues related to "white identity" (or whatever you want to call it) isn't a religious issue. Which is true.

 

[Neodanthril]

Nobody is saying that Christians aren't welcome in their little clubhouse.

I have no doubt that all of these groups are happy to take money from Christians, but when people tell me they believe that Christianity is a problem that must be overcome to implement their worldview or that they make little to no distinction between Christians and Jews, I take them at their word.

 

[Noble Redditor]

I have no doubt that all of these groups are happy to take money from Christians, but when people tell me they believe that Christianity is a problem that must be overcome to implement their worldview or that they make little to no distinction between Christians and Jews, I take them at their word.

Christianity isn't a problem that needs to be overcome, it's just a limiting belief that holds a lot of people back from accepting the real issue which is race. That is their main point regarding Christianity and it's true. You haven't even attempted to disprove it either other than just slandering people and intentionally misrepresenting their words to serve your stupid agenda because deep down you don't care about white people either. Religion is divisive. That's why there's a thousand different spinoffs and white people kill each other and start full blown wars over different interpretations of specific sentences.

White identity isn't open for interpretation the way the Bible is. If you're white you're being persecuted from all sides including the church. The only solution is to look at other white men and women as your brothers and sisters and think of our best interests collectively. If we don't our race won't survive and that's a very serious, bad thing to happen. Your church just wants people sitting in their pews. They don't care if they're brown or gay.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Can this thread go back to making fun of Jose for being a retard?

 

[FightenGnome]

I think fighting the concept of Christianity is a losing battle right now

Right, and it's a battle that has been and should be internecine. These clowns think Christianity is a John Hagee monolith meanwhile Christians have been going after heretics since the formation of the Church.

If they're worried about Christian Zionists send Christian Nationalists to police them. This anti-Christian sentiment is a problem of their own creation as they ghettoize themselves from people who agree with them. It's a snake eating its own tail, but I guess that's what the former Alt-Right has become these days. Comically enough, TRS does more damage to the White race than a MAGA Boomer.

I know a self righteous moron will tell me that European values are based on Christianity, but then argue endless semantics about why majority brown, majority Christian countries are still somehow always trash.

Only a brain-broken autist would believe that the major issues in America and Europe stem from the fact that we aren't Christian enough.

The answer is why not both? The values from Christianity stem from Europe, of the Grecian origin, and when Whites followed it, Whites benefitted from it. It was through a Christian eye that slavery in the Catholic realm was ended for White Europeans. Sure there were bad things as well, but much of that comes from flawed philosophy and the same could be said of the flawed philosophy of the Enlightenment which challenged social norms and culminated in the bloody creation of the French Republic. It used to be well understood that Liberal ideology played a massive role as to how we got where we are now.

It's also unclear what the alternative is to this Greco-Christian morality. This is the issue I have when most people criticize anything, are they don't provide a realistic alternative. It's not like there was some amazing alternative that is much more naturalistic, stable, fulfilling and better for society prior to Christianity or after Christianity. The best you get is a Tacitus interpretation of the Germans which is close enough, and at worst you get people citing the pillaging, polygamous, slave trading Norse or the more modern "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" satanist doctrine.

Religious infighting just boils down to blaming Christianity for all ills that sprung up since the World Wars and then present their own heckin valid "Just be a good person my dude" alternative with a dash of "don't trust the Jews" here and "deport all the browns" there. It's a cause looking for a purpose, as whether or not you get along with someone inside a political community is based on if that guy acts like a douchebag and not what faith is written down for his last rites.

I'm not going to change my religion, you're not going to change yours, and if one of us tries it will just cause conflict and us refusing to work with one another. It's the perfect D&C and it's amazing how many people fall for it in America.

 

[Neodanthril]

You haven't even attempted to disprove it either other than just slandering people

deep down you don't care about white people either

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. But if posting what people say in context means that I secretly hate white people then I don't really have anything else to say to you. I will just reiterate that if somebody tells me they believe that Jews are a problem for white people and that they they make no distinction between Christians and Jews then I'm going to take them at their word. I have no reason or desire to contort myself and my beliefs into knots to suit people that view me as under suspicion and not really a white nationalist.

 

[Rekkington]

How many times have we debated Christianity in this thread?

 

[Noble Redditor]

How many times have we debated Christianity in this thread?

The people who keep trying to argue that Christianity is more important than race should be banned especially because it has nothing to do with this thread and they're always retarded.

 

[FightenGnome]

How many times have we debated Christianity in this thread?

It's a sidetrack that all too often comes up with discussing TRS because of them swiveling the deck guns towards it. You're right insomuch that we shouldn't get too off topic.

So a recent poll was conducted on the new paychads channel

I may have asked this before but forgotten, what's with the borzoi hate? At one point while this poll was conducted, he was over Alex in the votes. The guys a weird nerd but nowhere near as bad as Sven or Alex. His Poz Button shows weren't half bad.

Is it because he presents half-baked information no one has heard of as fact? Or does he just have a shitty takeaway of things like Richard Spencer saying Thulsa Doom had the correct interpretation of the Riddle of Steel?

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Many on the DR that aren't explicitly anti Christian only avoid direct antagonism because they have normie to conservatish audiences-the more fringe don't have this concern.

I don't think it can really be stopped now, the younger generations see modern Christianity as part of the libtard blob-whether or not they have internalized Nietzsche or watch Adam Green videos.*

Every single time Adam Green shows up to any semi-knowledgeable Christian show he gets clowned on bronze Age pervert is a pedophile romanian Jew .
Keep telling yourself that Christians aren't going anywhere the United States is just as Christian as it was 10 years ago as it is now.

 

[Ishtar]

BAP actually doesn’t attack Christianity directly. At least not on Twitter. He doesn’t like it obviously, and occasionally he does slip a bit-and his orbiters can be far less restrained, but BAP very tactically avoids direct antagonism 98% of the time.

 

[I'm a Silly]

Is it because he presents half-baked information no one has heard of as fact?

Yes! Borzoi even had bad takes on the Poz Button w/r/t True Detective; I am a highly critical listener, as I've spent too much time looking at pop culture to stomach shallow observations. I was disappointed and never went back.

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I've seen pro-Whites on Xitter who get what I mean when I say "Embrace syncretism; it isn't like you have a choice." The tradcath larpers will bristle at this, but real humans who grew up as any kind of Christian will admit that their favorite holidays are Christmas, Easter, and Halloween. Candy and presents aren't just nostalgia for childhood. They're nostalgia for pagan roots. The best parts of Christianity are the syncretized pagan practices. It's how we get beautiful art and cozy holidays. Otherwise, Christianity would be a boring desert death cult.

 

[Passing Through Town]

>the great religion debate in current year

 

[The Hardest R]

It's a sidetrack that all too often comes up with discussing TRS because of them swiveling the deck guns towards it. You're right insomuch that we shouldn't get too off topic.

So a recent poll was conducted on the new paychads channel
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I may have asked this before but forgotten, what's with the borzoi hate? At one point while this poll was conducted, he was over Alex in the votes. The guys a weird nerd but nowhere near as bad as Sven or Alex. His Poz Button shows weren't half bad.

Is it because he presents half-baked information no one has heard of as fact? Or does he just have a shitty takeaway of things like Richard Spencer saying Thulsa Doom had the correct interpretation of the Riddle of Steel?

I called Borzoi the white noise machine of the alt right, which made its way back to him. I don’t think he’s bad but he just offers blandness: bland shows, bland takes, he’s just kinda there and not much else. He thinks he’s a lot smarter than he actually is, which isn’t uncommon in the remaining scraps of the dissident right but I don’t think anyone serious gets excited or wonders what Borzoi’s take is on anything.