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massie. he wanted an absolutely perfect bill, but that would never happen even in a utopian world. it's a shame he struggles to see reason on the government funding stuff because he's otherwise got a pretty good view on things.
I tend to trust Massie. He's one of the few decent politicians we have left even if he's wrong sometimes. Anyone who's as open with the public as he is deserves a little trust.
 
I tend to trust Massie. He's one of the few decent politicians we have left even if he's wrong sometimes. Anyone who's as open with the public as he is deserves a little trust.
He will just never get anything done just like the rest of the FC. Biggest issue I have with Massie is that he was happy to vote for the same shit that he just voted no on when McCarthy was speaker but ever since he was removed he throws a fit every time.

If he does end up as a senator he will legit just be Murkowski or Collins lite and always have to be sucked off to get a vote from.
 
Also for all the doomers in this thread, the Secretary of Agriculture is also working on lowering egg prices:
Here's a video of the interview, I haven't watched yet, just posting because the article mentions it but doesn't link it and I had to track it down myself.

Edit: I have now started it and came back immediately to report that she is somehow completely mogging the journalist talking to her, I looked it up and google says she's 5'6" so that guy must be fucking diminutive.
 
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No one said it was pork free but dems are going to lock step vote against anything Trump does especially when they are getting crushed every way right now. The bill has less pork then the other one going around and gets tons of what Trump wants done so as long as the Senate retards like Graham don't cry too hard about Ukraine bullshit it should get done quick.
It would be unironically in the Democrat party's best interest to become extremely reasonable and bipartisan. Not that they will, but they should look to the Clinton era. Democrats gained a lot of public credibility by agreeing with Republicans on a balanced budget and being tough on crime. Hillary gets a lot of shit, but her calling niglets "superpredators" in the 90's was both honest and accurate for the times. The dems need to get back to that and it's sad that of all the Dems, a brain-damaged retard from flyover Pennsylvania has the best pulse on the public sentiment out of their party.
You all realize that this is nothing new. The short line to immigration to the US has always been cash. Enough to start a business worth at least $1 million. All Trump did today was to x5 the price. And this is not unique to the US. Most Western Democracy's have fairly similar immigration rules. Why do you think so many members of the Saudi Royal Family live wherever they seemingly want.
I fail to see the problem. If you have $5million USD you are welcome here. There aren't enough of them to tip the political balance and business owners at the 7-8 figure level lean Republican for regulation reasons.

The number of foreign billionaires immigrating to the US is less than 1 in 1,000,000 citizens. They are statistically insignificant and it's pretty much impossible to spend more on gayops than our government has already been spending. George Soros, the largest and most public glownigger we know of, was heavily propped up with now-dead USAID spending.

Last bit of autism: it amuses me that George can make his money by backstabbing kikes in the holocaust, but at the end of the day he wasted a ton of that + USAID money failing to betray America.

I am extremely nationalistic. One of the enduring flexes of being American is being autistically immune to foreign propaganda. Communist faggots have been trying to destabilize us for more than 100 years, 5x the expected demoralization phase. You can conservatively say America has survived two full cycles of propaganda that has and would otherwise destroy any other nation. Everything we have dealt with in the 2016+ timeline is a rebrand of 1960's Soviet tactics. We rejected communism twice and counting. The 1960's commies and 1970's instability led to Reagan. The 2000's were the 1960's redux. The 2010s are the 1970's redux. Trump 2024+ is Reagan 2.0, down to the "Make America Great Again" slogan and appeal.

America is not weak, we have been forced by limp-wristed faggots to pretend to be. This is what our enemies fundamentally fail to understand about American diplomacy. We overstate our flaws and understate our capabilities as a matter of course; it doesn't matter if you think we are retards because we can target you and your family anywhere on Earth , we just choose not to drone strike you. We don't want to reveal any capability we don't absolutely have to.

If American soldiers were given carte blanche to exterminate their opposition, we would own the Earth. We don't want an empire, but the world seems to want to bend the knee to us. We don't want to be occupiers. Our only losses in the last 80 years have been political. Get non-combat faggots out of the chain of command.
 
That would mean giving Trump a win and we can't have that. Got to form that anti Trump coalition they're going to run on come midterms
That also baffles me. This was going to pass the house but the retards who tell the Dems how to vote couldn't figure out to let the Dems who will face tough races in 2026 vote for this, or at least let some of them do it. Throw your rainbows but I wouldn't be surprised if Fetterman is the only one smart enough to see this and vote for it in the senate when the time comes.

I sing this song a lot but I don't like this. I don't want the opposition party to be this shitty. It's all well and good now because there's a lot of things that need to be done but there will come a time when the Republicans get a little too comfortable and start to form brain rot too. They need people to challenge them and keep them on their toes and right now I'm not seeing it.
 
I'm amazed at the breadth of retarded niggers this thread attracts. Every day some lefty faggot gets upset then spends his evening sperging out while the posters here dunk on the retard.
There's a myriad different kind of faggotry and yet they can't ever stay away. This thread is like a beacon, From the fake conservative to the mentally defective euro, from the concern trolling subhuman to the salty fed, all colors of the rainbows congregate here.

And they keep fucking losing !
 
That also baffles me. This was going to pass the house but the retards who tell the Dems how to vote couldn't figure out to let the Dems who will face tough races in 2026 vote for this, or at least let some of them do it. Throw your rainbows but I wouldn't be surprised if Fetterman is the only one smart enough to see this and vote for it in the senate when the time comes.

I sing this song a lot but I don't like this. I don't want the opposition party to be this shitty. It's all well and good now because there's a lot of things that need to be done but there will come a time when the Republicans get a little too comfortable and start to form brain rot too. They need people to challenge them and keep them on their toes and right now I'm not seeing it.
I think those days are over honestly. Fetterman was supposed to be that guy for them but he ended up voting No when he had easy chances to get "clout" with the GOP with Yes votes.

They aren't even capable of doing basic political strategy as a party currently so until some sort of shift in power for them I don't see it changing.
 
I think those days are over honestly. Fetterman was supposed to be that guy for them but he ended up voting No when he had easy chances to get "clout" with the GOP with Yes votes.

They aren't even capable of doing basic political strategy as a party currently so until some sort of shift in power for them I don't see it changing.

I dunno someone is whipping them into line

There were ZERO Dems who voted yes for a bill that gave tax cuts to the lower middle class. That's a pretty big blunder and hands some really nice ammo the GoP for the mid terms.

I mean of all the bills to vote no on they pick this one? I mean I understand they're doing the fuck Trump over at any cost bit but....damn son shooting yourself in the foot to attempt to own Orange Man Bad?

Fetterman got whipped into line after he said a few nice things about Trump on the View, then he went and commented that maybe RFK was onto something just before the hearings but now suddenly he's all party line 100%? Yah someone got to him and made him toe the line. Probably Pelosi but who knows, she's got her claws into so many people it could be anyone.
 
For the Epstein list?

It is probably being held for a mundane reason like "they pulled a random release date out of their ass, something came up and they will do it whenever."

Sort of like how Trump spent all weekend talking about that meeting in Riyadh that was never even scheduled but only four people noticed and none of them work for a news station.
Thing is, unless Trump was ignorant to the list's contents the first time around there's no reason not to release it. If it does have someone in his cabinet he'd know about it before hand. He's smart enough to think "Wait if (insert name) is on the list this will look REALLY bad for me" and announcing it's release and then NOT releasing it would be a large dent in his tenure.
Do i think one of his picks like RKF JR and Gaetz are on it? Maybe.
But what is known is that a large number of Rinos and DNC demons are on it, and showing the world the people you idolize are pedophilic murderers would sink their enemies.
But really, I think one of three things is possible:
1- The list is too heavily redacted and cleaned up to even be worth it by now.
2-the list really was deleted by traitors and is no more. Even if there is a paper list in Bondi's possession, that's heresay. Without solid evidence the DNC could claim its all bullshit and have reasonable doubt to back it up. I mean, anyone could write that the clintons, Biden and Bill Gates sacrificed a busload of kids to Moloch, but without evidence it's basically shitposting.
Or 3 - There is the small chance some of Trump's picks are on there and it risks damaging his tenure.
I don't think it will come out. Just like the JFK and MLKJR files. If they do, I dunno, I'll eat crow I guess lmao
That also baffles me. This was going to pass the house but the retards who tell the Dems how to vote couldn't figure out to let the Dems who will face tough races in 2026 vote for this, or at least let some of them do it. Throw your rainbows but I wouldn't be surprised if Fetterman is the only one smart enough to see this and vote for it in the senate when the time comes.

I sing this song a lot but I don't like this. I don't want the opposition party to be this shitty. It's all well and good now because there's a lot of things that need to be done but there will come a time when the Republicans get a little too comfortable and start to form brain rot too. They need people to challenge them and keep them on their toes and right now I'm not seeing it.
The Dems are never going to be meaningful opposition. Maybe back, I dunno, 100 years ago they could have been, but identity politics and being hotboxed in their own farts has melted their brains. It's no longer about meaningful discourse its about brownie points and "fighting against the ebil Nazis!" and thus they will continue to vote nay to everything, no matter how good it is, the GOP pushes out. You're right, the GOP risks getting comfortable, but until a real second party can come in and challenge them, the DNC are spayed and shattered. It's all bitter anger and desperate attempts to try and eke a win out of a massive defeat at this point in their timeline. They could try to do some soul searching (I know lmao) and even begin purging the radical elements of the left out to try and court public favor, but it's too late now.
 
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Why is reddit lighting up like a tree on Christmas morning and screeching

What happened to Medicaid?
The budget bill the House just passed includes cuts to gibs for illegals. Naturally this is the worst, most racist and horrible thing anyone's ever done since the last thing they were offended by ten minutes prior.
 
Trump's own appointed loyalist department heads are pushing back hard against the Musk email plan:
since you brought it up, i personally think it was fucked up to spring it on everyone over the weekend, it basically meant everyone only had monday to respond and him doing it right when multiple secretaries were just confirmed added fuel to the chaos. Its hard to establish authroity when some dude demands the same. I know in every workplace i've been a part of its extremely common courtesy to not institute a policy change right when a new manager comes in and only the shittiest corps pull that shit. The ones where you know they don't care about anyone under c-suite. Except this is even worse than that considering in theory the secretaries only answer to the president as well, so its interoffice rivalries. At least wait until everyone has had time to settle into their roles and establish some authority and let them know the game plan that way it doesn't sound like a fucking phishing email.
 
Trump's own appointed loyalist department heads are pushing back hard against the Musk email plan:
I've already brought up the myriad issues with how retarded it is and how the email is completely legally non-binding and would never be allowed to be used to discipline anyone, so I won't bother to go into my opinions on those matters again here. Instead I will present this question:

You are a close, personal friend of Donald Trump. You are already accomplished in your own right. You have suffered being crucified in the media and being dragged through the mud in Senate hearings to finally be narrowly confirmed to a cabinet position that you've taken, which is a massive pay cut from and is significantly more stressful than your previous job. You get to your office to begin your work tearing out decades of rot and rebuilding an agency that Americans can be proud of.

Next thing you know, without being told of the plan of being even made privy to it, Elon fucking Musk is having 19 year old retards who live in pods in the OPM office send YOUR employees emails demanding they report to them why they should keep their job or they'll be fired. How do you feel?

I would be livid. I'm sure they are. Moreover, remember that these people he's appointed have quite large egos themselves.
balanced budget
A budget balanced by absolutely GUTTING our manufacturing and defense industries. It's his fault we can't make tanks and artillery shells. Clinton is a faggot and any praise for him should be ridiculed.
 
For the Epstein list?

It is probably being held for a mundane reason like "they pulled a random release date out of their ass, something came up and they will do it whenever."

Sort of like how Trump spent all weekend talking about that meeting in Riyadh that was never even scheduled but only four people noticed and none of them work for a news station.
There's a lot of powerful people that want that list gone. Personally I'm blaming Matt Groening.
Null needs to let us use the funny stone head sticker in here, it's mean that he doesn't.
Let me teach you about the wonders of the Islamic Content sticker, my brother.
 
There is literally nothing Trump has done that doesn’t have precedence.
This is the only response that needs to be said to anybody bitching about what Trump has been doing. The time to bitch was when the authority presently being exercised was first used, and almost all of it precedes Trump. Nothing happening is being done without precedent, hyperbolic media hysteria notwithstanding the facts.

If you didn't bitch then, I don't care now. Because I did bitch, then. Everyone who questioned executive authority back when it was so routinely abused was slandered as a conspiracy theorizing Alex Jones fellating boner pill popping nutjob, whether or not you ever consumed his brand. How exactly is that working out for the country, in hindsight?

Its only executive overreach the first time. After that its just routine. Plenty of people tried to warn us. And now here we all are:

Every president in my entire 40+ year lifetime has been playing Whose country is it anyways? where the authority is made up and the rules don't matter. At least this season of the show is actually amusing to me, even if its only because I can see charlatans being consumed by their own hubris.

Bah, I had a bedtime bowl of smoke, and I'm rambling.
 
Why is reddit lighting up like a tree on Christmas morning and screeching

What happened to Medicaid?
The budget bill the House just passed includes cuts to gibs for illegals. Naturally this is the worst, most racist and horrible thing anyone's ever done since the last thing they were offended by ten minutes prior.

And if case you gloss over it, that subreddit is named "Murdered By AOC"
 
That also baffles me. This was going to pass the house but the retards who tell the Dems how to vote couldn't figure out to let the Dems who will face tough races in 2026 vote for this, or at least let some of them do it. Throw your rainbows but I wouldn't be surprised if Fetterman is the only one smart enough to see this and vote for it in the senate when the time comes.

I sing this song a lot but I don't like this. I don't want the opposition party to be this shitty. It's all well and good now because there's a lot of things that need to be done but there will come a time when the Republicans get a little too comfortable and start to form brain rot too. They need people to challenge them and keep them on their toes and right now I'm not seeing it.
Problem is that the dems see any sort of cooperation with Trump as betrayal and you can look no further than RFK and Tulsi to see what happens when you break ranks. The party will deny you and fight tooth and nail to discredit you.
 
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