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That also baffles me. This was going to pass the house but the retards who tell the Dems how to vote couldn't figure out to let the Dems who will face tough races in 2026 vote for this, or at least let some of them do it. Throw your rainbows but I wouldn't be surprised if Fetterman is the only one smart enough to see this and vote for it in the senate when the time comes.

I sing this song a lot but I don't like this. I don't want the opposition party to be this shitty. It's all well and good now because there's a lot of things that need to be done but there will come a time when the Republicans get a little too comfortable and start to form brain rot too. They need people to challenge them and keep them on their toes and right now I'm not seeing it.
You're talking like the Republican majority in Congress isn't razor-thin. The Republicans can't steamroll anything.

Now, Obama got a true supermajority with 60 votes in the Senate (filibuster-proof) to play with. When have the Republicans ever had that kind of ability to impose their will? (How concerned were you when Obama and the Democrats wielded that kind of power?)

I find it frightening that with all the Democrats' lunacy, they haven't been repudiated. They still have support of nearly half the electorate.
 
Problem is that the dems see any sort of cooperation with Trump as betrayal and you can look no further than RFK and Tulsi to see what happens when you break ranks. The party will deny you and fight tooth and nail to discredit you.
When you're right you're right, that's definitely what it is. I just don't know what alternative their dumbass voter base is going to vote for otherwise. It's such a small thing that the only people who would know about it are people that actually vote and Canadians. It can be a big thing when some millennial challenger drops, "Why did you vote against American workers not being taxed for working overtime?"

I think the answer is that it's all out of spite. There's some cabal of gays and elderly communists that are just throwing a giant tantrum.
 
You're talking like the Republican majority in Congress isn't razor-thin. The Republicans can't steamroll anything.

Now, Obama got a true supermajority with 60 votes in the Senate (filibuster-proof) to play with. When have the Republicans ever had that kind of ability to impose their will? (How concerned were you when Obama and the Democrats wielded that kind of power?)

I find it frightening that with all the Democrats' lunacy, they haven't been repudiated. They still have support of nearly half the electorate.
Dems usually resonate with retards despite being "college educated" if they're good at one thing it's manipulating retards who think they're being good people.
Republicans are good at being losers
 
Here's a video of the interview [with Brooke Rollins, USDA secretary], I haven't watched yet, just posting because the article mentions it but doesn't link it and I had to track it down myself.
It's only 11 mins, but some notes:
First subject is bird flu: she says there are no short term fixes, mentions imports as a way to potentially mitigate prices shorter term. Mentions that infections of farm birds are driven by wild bird populations. Asked about "doing more than just killing off the chickens that have it", she talks about hope for "innovation" in vaccines and therapeutics, doesn't say anything too specific.
She says she is working together with other health departments, mentions RFK. Trump expects things to move "at light speed".
"It isn't just eggs"; talks about inflation and increased food prices across the board under last admin. Generally blames increased regulation; she mentions California prop 12, and cites their $9 average price (per dozen) vs. $5 for US. Doesn't get into any specifics on federal regulations or actions by last admin that she'd be rolling back.
She says late spring/summer is when she's hoping there's some downward movement in egg prices.
Asked about Haitian workers given protected status under Biden having to leave, they were brought up (I guess during the round table; I couldn't find a video of it unfortunately) by a broiler farmer who had been employing them and had concerns about labor. Says "labor is always an issue in agriculture", mentions H-2A program; says she'll be taking the concern back to Washington and "looking into it", making sure they have "all the information".
Mentions tariffs, claims they will ultimately benefit agriculture by increasing reliance on domestic production, but needs to make sure labor concerns are met.
Says firing people is hard, she's not jubilant, as portrayed by those opposing it. She's asked specifically about USDA employees who were working on avian flu being fired, says it was before her confirmation, but as far as she knows the acting head immediately "redeployed" them.

Overall I'm slightly disappointed by the lack of specifics, and she doesn't seem to have any big new ideas to Make Agriculture Great Again. That said, it's understandable; there's a tension between immigration and labor policy, tariffs and prices (unless there will be cutouts for eggs, the tariff point contradicts her earlier point about imports as a short term price fix), and she's not about to undercut her boss on any of his stated policies. My takeaway though is that she's knowledgable about the issues and on top of things, and USDA is in relatively sane, boring hands.

The thing about California gives me pause; what if such regulation could be part of a larger strategy that could prevent these health issues arising? That said, if you look it up, there are plenty of recent stories of huge culls in California so it hasn't solved the issue by itself; it would be a lot more work to try and figure out whether it's having any impact statistically.

Bounty to anyone who gets a video of the roundtable she held before the interview. @isalaide @A Cardboard Box get in here egg friends
 
Problem is that the dems see any sort of cooperation with Trump as betrayal and you can look no further than RFK and Tulsi to see what happens when you break ranks. The party will deny you and fight tooth and nail to discredit you.
I'm afraid it works both ways. For politicians it's always been easier to use the opposition as scapegoats instead of just working together to actually get shit done. You'd have to be delusional to think that one side will actually contribute meaningfully to improving the country when the politicians are the problem here.
 
Now, Obama got a true supermajority with 60 votes in the Senate (filibuster-proof) to play with. When have the Republicans ever had that kind of ability to impose their will? (How concerned were you when Obama and the Democrats wielded that kind of power?)

I still find it hilarious that Obama was such a huge fucking failure even with that Supermajority. A lot of dems ignore how little he got done when he had it, because a lot of dems like to pretend that he was the second coming of Christ and loved by the democrat establishment when they fucking hated (and still do) him
 
Nick Sortor sat next to Eric Swalwell during a 90 minute dinner with lobbyists and recorded their conversation surreptitiously. Swalwell is clearly drunk and Sorter alleges that during the dinner Sealwrll spilled national security secrets, said he was bored with his wife, asked for help finding someone he could sleep with that night, and said that he “only fucks 10’s.”

Niggas be wildin’.

If someone could help a boomer out and download/post this video from X I would be very grateful.


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I still find it hilarious that Obama was such a huge fucking failure even with that Supermajority. A lot of dems ignore how little he got done when he had it, because a lot of dems like to pretend that he was the second coming of Christ and loved by the democrat establishment when they fucking hated (and still do) him
Obama was the dogshit catalyst that made me break away from being a dem in the first place.
"We just have chocolate dipped bush who has a PR guy who doesn't let him verbally gaffe. Everything sucks shit and we're still in a pointless war now with droning hospitals. What the fuck are you retards clapping for?"
 
Trump’s cabinet grift status:
VP: JD Vance - literally was a never Trumper before backing Trump, a.k.a. Pence 2.0
SOS: Marco Rubio - deep state operative confirmed by 99% of the Senate; you think this guy’s on our side?
Treasury: Literal Soros Fund stooge
Defense: Pete Hegseth - Him and Burgum seem like the only genuine Trump loyalists, but he’s a degenerate who may end up blowing up in the end
Attorney General: Pam Bondi - DEI hire who got the job for her looks
Interior: Doug Burgum - Trump loyalist who should be the next president; I believe Trump will turn on him after the midterms over during the ‘third term’ crisis
Agriculture: Brooke Rollins - Very little info on her, she’s worked for Republicans her whole career; seems like she just does what she’s told, low risk
Commerce: Howard Lutnick - Literal Jewish investor who makes money off of ruining peoples’ lives; will do whatever gets him the most money
HHS: RFK Jr. - Literally a Democrat, weaseled his way into the cabinet because Trump was at risk of losing the election without him

I’ll do the other half later.
You will never be Fatpacks. You have no burger suit, you have no fed paycheck, you have no real staunch opinions. You are a baiting retard twisted by TDS into a crude mockery of Fatpack’s perfection.
 
Obama was the dogshit catalyst that made me break away from being a dem in the first place.
"We just have chocolate dipped bush who has a PR guy who doesn't let him verbally gaffe. Everything sucks shit and we're still in a pointless war now with droning hospitals. What the fuck are you retards clapping for?"
Don't get me wrong, he did a lot of damage to the country but a lot of people don't seem to realize that it could have been a lot worse if his own party hadn't fought him tooth and nail for everything he wanted to get done. People forget that a lot of establishment Democrats were calling him a socialist right there alongside the Republicans.
 
and said that he “only fucks 10’s.”
we literally saw the chink he was fucking, he'lll say yes to any girl that lets him hit on them. if you're in college or go to any massage parlor in a high population city you'll find an asian woman hotter than the one he fucked who'll just let you smash. i know the DC-baltimore area is known for its surprising amount of uggos despite being a major city but come on.
People forget that a lot of establishment Democrats were calling him a socialist right there alongside the Republicans.
yeah people forget it was the dems that fucked obamacare the most, the GOP were acting like the democrats are acting now, obama got fucked by the establishment, didn't fucking joe liberman torpedo obamacare?
 
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I think Musk has made a lot of the RINO's nervous.

He has said that anyone who tries to stymie the Trump agenda he will support the effort to primary them. Normally you'd scoff at that unless it was coming from some jews but Elon IS the richest man in the world and can easily afford to blow a few tens of millions pumping your opponent and not even notice it.

I think the RINO's will walk a little more carefully, the uniparty is in shambles and sure as hell doesn't have their back if shit hits the fans. Trump and his DoJ are absolutely salivating at the chance to catch some RINO or Dem in a corruption scheme. And there is no Biden this time to toss out a lifesaver pardon this time.

I do wonder who the faithless GoP was.
He should primary the RINOs anyway. He's realizing that the only vehicle that can progress his goals is MAGA, and the biggest threat to MAGA are neoconservatives in the legislature. Always kill the traitors first.
 
Don't get me wrong, he did a lot of damage to the country but a lot of people don't seem to realize that it could have been a lot worse if his own party hadn't fought him tooth and nail for everything he wanted to get done. People forget that a lot of establishment Democrats were calling him a socialist right there alongside the Republicans.
And almost all of those sane blue dog Dems were culled to clear the way for Hillary Fucking Clint.
 
Problem is that the dems see any sort of cooperation with Trump as betrayal and you can look no further than RFK and Tulsi to see what happens when you break ranks. The party will deny you and fight tooth and nail to discredit you.
Shit it didn't even take breaking ranks for them to kick Tulsi out. All it took was her torpedoing Harris and to step down as DNC Vice Chair after they screwed over Bernie. What you said is 100% right and it is why the Democrats cannot moderate their position. If they moderate they will have to take up pro Trump positions on a lot of policies because they gave him so much ground by moving so far left. If they do that they will lose their base of crazies which is all they pretty much have left. Tonight a special election in the Connecticut senate was held in a district Trump won by .5%, the Republican just won by nearly 7 points.
 
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Still waiting for his "day one" action on inflation and cost of living.
Late and gay here, but I think taking the "Day One" initiative at face value, and believing that anyone can realistically complete in even a month, is disingenuous (especially coming from you since you've been pretty articulate & good faith compared to some of the posters here who have negative opinions of Trump). Even Teddy Roosevelt took months (if not years) of policy implementation & changes to get to a point where the government could realistically crack down on monopolies. There's only so much executive power can even accomplish.
What we're dealing with is an executive arms race, where both parties attempt to strengthen the executive so that they can wield the hammer whenever it's their turn. It makes me uncomfortable, and it bodes poorly for the actual Republic, same as genuine democracy does.
That's just the general issue with democracy as a whole. Taking a step back from the American Republic and the Current Year politics as a whole, the primary issue with democracy is the fact that it puts too much faith into the people in charge. It assumes that these people in positions of power are true & honest to the republic, and not their self interests. It inevitably becomes a game of increasing power for either the party or the individual. And the way that this is achieved is by increasing the power of certain positions, to the point where that position either becomes unabated, or just ridiculously all encompassing to all sectors. Which is why I don't really like the idea of an all encompassing Federal state, with organizations that attempt to eat you alive when you step out of their line (i.e: the CIA, the FBI, the IRS, etc.). Because its very clear how much the Federal government works for themselves rather than for the people.

This isn't to say that democracy is le bad or anything. It's one of the few systems in place that has shown to work pretty well, even under extreme circumstances. But it's clear that it still suffers from obvious flaws. Call me optimistic here though, but I do hope post-Trump, we get more candidates that are more focused on removing the power of the Federal government while still maintaining the integrity of the Constitution.

With that being said, I'm sure Trump will inevitably lead to instilling policies that will become more permanent than just an executive order and harder to reverse. Right now this is only the first month, and it's about getting things done first and then putting them into actual policy. At least, that's my hope.
 
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I'm glad she got BTFO'd but this is pathetic. Her corruption is nearly unparalleled in any place not called Chicago, she's under FBI investigation for all kinds of crimes, and barely 25% of voters could be arsed to get their butts to the polls and vote her out?

As far as Congress goes--might as well buckle up for every single Dem to vote against anything Republican every single time, even if it's good for the country, their constituents, and their party. There's no Manchin or Sinema anymore to at least pretend to be bipartisan.

Dolton, Illinois is majority nigger, you can't expect much from them, actually voting out a corrupt nigger is a big leap for them.

Indeed, the Dems will pull every trick they can for the next year going into midterms in 2026. They will do gay little filibusters, they'll use lawfare, it will not stop. They're the kid that's crying in the backseat the entire drive home because you didn't get him a Happy Meal.

Now, Obama got a true supermajority with 60 votes in the Senate (filibuster-proof) to play with. When have the Republicans ever had that kind of ability to impose their will? (How concerned were you when Obama and the Democrats wielded that kind of power?)

Decided to look into this and from what I can tell the last time Republicans had a supermajority in Congress was in the 1920s, this includes both the House and Senate

The closest the modern Republicans ever came to a supermajority was the 104th Congress from 1995-1997 and 108th Congress 2003-2005 with 55 seats. In the House the closest the GOP has gotten was 246 seats in the 114th Congress (2015-2017).

He should primary the RINOs anyway. He's realizing that the only vehicle that can progress his goals is MAGA, and the biggest threat to MAGA are neoconservatives in the legislature. Always kill the traitors first.

Absolutely, allowing the RINOs to continue existing in Congress is like leaving the patient with a tumor that continues to cause problems. Trump needs to do it on principle to really cement control of the party, it's paramount to ensure MAGA actually becomes the unshakeable doctrine of the party going forward, so it doesn't all just end in 2028
 
You're talking like the Republican majority in Congress isn't razor-thin. The Republicans can't steamroll anything.

Now, Obama got a true supermajority with 60 votes in the Senate (filibuster-proof) to play with. When have the Republicans ever had that kind of ability to impose their will? (How concerned were you when Obama and the Democrats wielded that kind of power?)

I find it frightening that with all the Democrats' lunacy, they haven't been repudiated. They still have support of nearly half the electorate.
The difference here being that unlike Obama Donald Trump is not a beta cuckold who is married to a man. He won't do stupid things like change his health care bill as a "compromise" and then leave all the concessions in dispite 0 opposition votes.

Donald Trump will leave his bill exactly as he said and will use the opportunity to run any RINO who opposes it out of congress on a rail. He will use the bully pulpet combined with the power of social media to run one of the most effective cyber bullying campaigns in the history of Earth.

He will call their wife fat, their children ugly, and will break down the exact sources of funding that taint their political views. He will call them un-American and use the full force of the justice department agaisnt them. He will encourage his supporters to divest and boycott the companies funding them. He will have his billionaire friends run political opposition campaigns agaisnt their reelection funding any opposition with millions of dollars in dark money.

Please vote no RINO faggot we never liked you anyways.
 
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