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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Charities were stunned by the aid cut, with Save the Children calling it "a betrayal of the world's most vulnerable children and the UK's national interest".
"There is nothing respectful about slashing lifelines for families in the most dangerous places," the charity's chief executive Moazzam Malik said.
Labour MP Sarah Champion, who chairs the Commons International Development Committee, called on the government to "rethink today's announcement".
"Cutting the aid budget to fund defence spending is a false economy that will only make the world less safe," she said.
No Starmer fan so refuse to give him credit for this. Got to thank Trump for this. The knock on effect is pissing off the usual grifters. This is how our defence budget should have probably been anyway.
 
Does anyone else wonder if the tune will change once we are marginalized and are the minority? Because that day will happen,in our lifetimes if something does not give.

The cards are all in place for a Muslim led Government which will enforce Shariah law.
Historically it has never gotten better for the presiding majority culture that gets overtaken by a Muslim majority.

Jews generally did well, swapping semi regular pogroms for paying a jizya.

The demographic change is, and should be treated as, an existential threat far greater than muh climate change
 

Thought this was interesting. There is some pretty solid discussion about the deep state / the evil of Tony Blair / how the power is now entrenched in unelected bureaucrats and the judiciary / how it is going to take a massive amount of upheaval to undo all of this to have a democracy again.
It is very revealing what Truss says about the financial models at the Bank of England and their ideologies. Nobody is so arrogant ( and so costly to the population ) as an economist that thinks their models can never be wrong ( current chancellors would be included in this if they were actually an economist, or even read Capital ).
 
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It is one of my biggest regrets being so against Truss after reading more and reflecting on it her plan would've worked but the deep state fucking hated her because she posed a threat. I think she would have been the next Thatcher honestly. I have noticed a trend with the globohomo leaders and they all tend to be homunculi, just nothing. Starmer looks like he is going to cry constantly. Sunak tried to emulate personality. Babadook vacuous. Blair and Brown are both evil psychopaths. BoJo again emulated people but was a blundering idiot.
 

Thought this was intresting. There is some pretty solid discussion about the deep state / the evil of Tony Blair / how the power is now entrenched in unelected bureaucrats and the judiciary / how it is going to take a massive amount of upheaval to undo all of this to have a democracy again.
It is very revealing what Truss says about the financial models at the Bank of England and their ideologies. Nobody is so arrogant ( and so costly to the population ) as an economist that thinks their models can never be wrong ( current chancellors would be included in this if they were actually an economist, or even read Capital ).
This is genuinely scary. I'm floored by her bravery with going public.
 
I think Reform is getting close, especially Lowe. Honestly, I would love them to use Truss as one of their figureheads and have her tell her story to a larger audience using the Americans as a springboard to gather more reach. Platforms like X and Facebook are quickly becoming a thorn in the side of Labour because it is harder for them to control. After all, they don't want to create a Streisand effect. TikTok even though Chinese is proving great to undermine them too along with YouTube because Labour is getting to the point where they are terrified of unrest because that galvanizes Reform.

Starmer too has a shitty poker face and you can tell everything is coming undone. He knows optics-wise Ukraine has run out of steam and the UK population has no appetite for war. Macron got fucked over by Trump meaning he is going into a bear den meeting both Vance and Trump. He was going to use Macron to smooth over and curry for Ukrainian support in the form of a UN defense like last year with an extension for Typhoons in Poland. He was going to seal this obvious bait plan but that was scuppered because Trump shot it down immediately. He has no wriggle room at all now because all his global plans have been eviscerated meaning he only has home issues to save him now and guess what there are none.
 

Thought this was intresting. There is some pretty solid discussion about the deep state / the evil of Tony Blair / how the power is now entrenched in unelected bureaucrats and the judiciary / how it is going to take a massive amount of upheaval to undo all of this to have a democracy again.
It is very revealing what Truss says about the financial models at the Bank of England and their ideologies. Nobody is so arrogant ( and so costly to the population ) as an economist that thinks their models can never be wrong ( current chancellors would be included in this if they were actually an economist, or even read Capital ).
The grift never ends for her right? Two things can be true at the same time. She is correct about the corrupt establishment and financial monopolies but she was a shit prime minister and sold us out to the Chinese among many other things.
 
she was a shit prime minister
She was hobbled at every step by the banks, the media and by Whitehall. We never got to see how she could do. I’m sure she isn’t perfect, but what she’s saying here needs a wider audience, and soon because it needs to be seen in the context of what trump is doing NOW in America.
People need to see the events in America, they need to understand these tentacles don’t stop on that side of the Atlantic, that they extend all the way through Europe. That those people are not working for the good of the people they are ruling, that they hate us, and are hurting us. And most importantly they need to look at what trump is doing and understand we can do it here as well.
Being in charge should not be a remit to manipulate and loot and destroy a country. It’s a sacred charge to protect and serve and build. We seem to have forgotten that politicians should be public servants. Otherwise we need the holy warrior kings back, and they tend to not mess around when they go on crusades
 
One of the funniest things you can do IRL is confront vegan/anti-meat protestors about Halal and Kosher meat. They'll utterly refuse to say anything about it as they do not want to risk offending our desert dwelling overlords and will begin having a quite literal meltdown in the streets.

Make sure to be eating a Greg's sausage roll whilst doing this.
Do it, we would have a great chat.
 
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Islamophobia claims ‘used to suppress grooming gang reporting’​

The Policy Exchange think tank says the term was employed to attack Rotherham investigations — and argues against creating ‘special protections for one faith’


Accusations of “Islamophobia” are being used as a way to suppress the exposure of grooming gangs, a report has claimed.

The government is being urged to adopt a formal definition of anti-Muslim discrimination to be used nationally, which critics have said would effectively act as a blasphemy law.

On Tuesday, a report by the Policy Exchange think tank warned that the term had been “directly used to attack those who sought to expose the Rotherham grooming scandal”.

Andrew Norfolk, the Times investigative reporter who broke the story, was accused of working to “amplify an increasingly prevalent Islamophobia” in a 72-page report by left-wing academics from the Media Reform Coalition.

Sarah Champion, the Yorkshire MP who fought for victims of the scandal, and Dame Louise Casey, who led an inspection of children’s services at Rotherham council, were shortlisted for the “Islamophobe of the Year” award by a prominent UK Muslim group, the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC).

“As in Rotherham, the charge of Islamophobia is often used by wrongdoers who are Muslim, or their allies, to smear or deter those who seek to expose them,” Andrew Gilligan and Paul Stott, the authors of the Policy Exchange report, said. “Any official definition would make this problem worse. The purpose of an official Islamophobia definition is not to stop anti-Muslim hatred or discrimination —which are already illegal — but to create special protections for one faith.
“The government rejects claims of two-tier policing, but adopting any form of Islamophobia definition would clearly create a two-tier policy, formalising different treatment of people depending on their religion.”

The Labour Party has adopted the definition of Islamophobia produced by the all-party parliamentary group for British Muslims (APPG), which was criticised for putting “grooming gangs” in inverted commas and suggested that using the term in relation to Muslims was racist.

The single-line definition they recommend is that “Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness.”

It said the term Islamophobia was a modern iteration of “age-old stereotypes and tropes about Islam”, listing these as “sexual profligacy and paedophilia, or Islam and violence” and concluding they “heighten vulnerability of Muslims to hate crimes”.

The Policy Exchange report also presented evidence that one of the co-creators of the APPG report was a local activist in Yorkshire during the fallout from the grooming scandal.

It said Muhbeen Hussain led a boycott of South Yorkshire Police in 2015 over its response to the scandal, and their failure to protect Muslim communities from the far-right.

Asked the reason for the boycott, Hussain told the BBC in October 2015: “First and foremost, the police pushed a pernicious lie suggesting that they didn’t make arrests for the grooming scandal because of fears of being called racist.”

His group, British Muslim Youth, separately said the police “piggybacked on this hostile environment towards the Muslim community by deflecting the attention of their own failures by scapegoating us”, which the Policy Exchange report’s authors claim amounted to an accusation of Islamophobia.

Hussain also said police had not done enough to protect local Muslims from demonstrations by the far-right.

The boycott was criticised by the Labour council leader Chris Read, who said it “looked like trying to position some people as being above the law”.

In August 2017, Hussain went on the BBC’s Newsnight to attack Sarah Champion, the Labour MP for Rotherham, for writing in The Sun that Britain “has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls”. He said that it had “fuelled” discrimination.

Hussain and his group did speak out against the grooming scandal in 2014 and called for prosecutions, saying “the council, the social services and the police authorities have totally failed us… We want the investigations to go back to 1997, cases reopened and prosecutions made.”

According to Policy Exchange, Hussain’s uncle Mahroof, resigned as a Labour cabinet member and councillor in February 2015 when the Casey Report said council staff said he had “suppressed discussion” of grooming gangs operating in the town “for fear of upsetting community relations”.

Mahroof Hussain, in a statement issued after his resignation, said that it was his belief that no one in the council cabinet was “in denial” about the issue, adding: “We are disappointed that we failed to move sufficiently quickly and hope that another fresh start will prove more successful in protecting vulnerable children and young people in Rotherham from sexual abuse.”

In response to the Policy Exchange report, Muhbeen Hussain said that the boycott was not “related to the grooming scandal”, and instead was in response to the lack of police action on rising hate crimes in Rotherham at the time.

“I have always condemned the actions of the vile perpetrators, but at the same time, I have condemned the vile racist and Islamophobic surge we saw in Rotherham following the Jay Report,” he said. “Any right-minded person would agree that an entire innocent community should not be tarred and demonised for the actions of a minority of its members, and that community should not have to suffer racist attacks or abuse as a result.”

The all-party parliamentary group for British Muslims and the Islamic Human Rights Commission have been contacted for comment.
 
Wow all after they removed Churchill's painting from Parliament.


Totally not an authoritative state btw. Absolutely and utterly fucking insane these people are the highest degree of narcissists and put themselves. To do that to a person that crippled 2 navies in one confrontation is one of the greatest naval victories in history except for the defeat of the Spanish Armada. Wellington said no no words too may as well defile all references to him too.
 
Wow all after they removed Churchill's painting from Parliament.


Totally not an authoritative state btw. Absolutely and utterly fucking insane these people are the highest degree of narcissists and put themselves. To do that to a person that crippled 2 navies in one confrontation is one of the greatest naval victories in history except for the defeat of the Spanish Armada. Wellington said no no words too may as well defile all references to him too.

The main problem with the current Queer Starmer lot is they appear to be complete true believers in globohomo liberal ideology, and they will do whatever it takes to ensure it continues. While every other major country in the west and anglosphere shifts away from this and into more right-wing politics we are going to be stuck with this utter shite until the next election, unless we have some sort of black swan event.

Even when we eventually do make it to the next election, I have serious doubts about whether Reform, or any other right-wing party, will have what it takes to actually get elected, and then enact real change. Remember, we are the best in the world at controlled opposition. The uni-party must prevail.
 
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