Half Life thread - Discussions about Valve's FPS magnum opus(es) and any related content (spin offs, expansions and etc)

[1994 Honda Civic]

Where's the Half-Life? I don't see any of it here in the midst of this Reddit tier slapfight.

 

[AnOminous]

Same with (You).

But. . .like. . .NIGGER!

Where's the Half-Life? I don't see any of it here in the midst of this Reddit tier slapfight.

You appear to be some kind of nigger. Otherwise why are you shitting up this slapfight with your niggardly niggardry?

They've made some of the best black characters ever.

Grabbin PEELS!

 

[Nameless One]

 

[Star Classic]

incomprehensible /pol/ babble

I'm glad people have started to realize that it was always Eli's doing. He is responsible for everything, and say what you will about swapping out his death for Alyx, I think it will make the story much more interesting now.

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

I'm kinda sad they're reprinting half life 2 raising the bar. Now my original copy will go down in value. On the upside it'll have extra content.

I also have this poster but it's a little dirty/tiny bit of mold from sitting in a humid garage in its tube for a while. Never hung it. What the fuck delusion is this?

 

[Nameless One]

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I'm glad people have started to realize that it was always Eli's doing. He is responsible for everything, and say what you will about swapping out his death for Alyx, I think it will make the story much more interesting now.

I think the only reason he even gets revived in Alyx was likely because of the impact it would have on Alyx in the narrative of HL. I still think I would like to see the darker timeline than have Eli come back with a different VA. Same for Alyx. I want the originals back, new ones suck.

I'm kinda sad they're reprinting half life 2 raising the bar. Now my original copy will go down in value.

They're adding stuff to them they said in the documentary, so maybe the value will remain for people seeking the original copies. Even if logically you'd want the new one more, the retro and collectible market are retarded like that.

Speaking of vidya books, there is a relatively cheap and rare-ish Dead Rising 1 book in stock online. It's called Delusions Replay and its an artbook of sorts.

I seek it because no one has uploaded scans of it to internet archive and we only have a YouTube video of someone flipping through it.

 

[Star Classic]

I'm kinda sad they're reprinting half life 2 raising the bar. Now my original copy will go down in value.

If it makes you feel any better, losers like me who didn't buy it when it came out will still probably be paying extreme prices for it because you know Valve will either run out of stock or some scalpers will get bright ideas

I think the only reason he even gets revived in Alyx was likely because of the impact it would have on Alyx in the narrative of HL.

I always took it as a double entendre, Valve wanted to apologize for the cliffhanger and also needed Eli back because he had some new-found importance to the story.

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

If it makes you feel any better, losers like me who didn't buy it when it came out will still probably be paying extreme prices for it because you know Valve will either run out of stock or some scalpers will get bright ideas

I remember I got mine for like $25 on Amazon used and thought that was a lot at the time. It is a cool book. I wish more games had books like it.

 

[recanman]

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I'm glad people have started to realize that it was always Eli's doing. He is responsible for everything, and say what you will about swapping out his death for Alyx, I think it will make the story much more interesting now.

People will call it cheap but I think its a good way to expand on what episode 2 introduced with Eli being aware of the g-man and vice versa. G-man letting him live just so he can hire Alyx seems to have more reasons than just her being a "replacement" for Gordon, or at least it should.

 

[thhrang]

This thread was better when we were talking about lore before the Stonetoss tourists came in.

Just for some perspective, Gaben, ol' sacred Gaben himself, wanted shit like a cut penis monster in HL1 that was supposed to confront teenage boys with their innate homophobia.
This would've been in 1997, and this drivel is not dissimilar to todays wokeshit wordsalads justifying trash.

A.) The enemy was cut lol
B.) "Confront" is the wrong word I think, it sounds like they weren't going to browbeat players with A Message™, seemingly instead they just wanted something to illicit player disgust response? And frankly if it were in the game it would've accomplished that? It would be a monster that you kill and don't feel bad about killing. You're ascribing a modern political statement to something I don't particularly think is there - a lot of '90s teenagers were (rightfully) homophobic, it's a fact, & Valve briefly wanted to cater & capitalize on that demographic by making a disgusting monster for the player to kill & overcome to feel good about. How is this exactly woke?

I'll also quote this for good measure.

Ironically, you could use HL2's world as an anti-woke warning against mass immgration and urbanization. The Combine (the one world government) forces everyone into dirty, densely-packed, mutli-racial, oppressive cities to keep the humans feeling alone and disorganized to discourage a mass revolt against the ruling government.

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I honestly just hope Valve actually knows what they're doing with the G-Man, just in general. I said it a few days ago but he's a huge mysterybox, including his actual relations & dealings with other characters. I don't want to see him squandered in HLX.

Maybe we'll get to see Shepherd again, who knows.

 

[Star Classic]

Maybe we'll get to see Shepherd again, who knows.

Only there outcomes for me that I want to see for him.

1. Schizo Shephard as the final boss, I think doing a direct G-man fight would be a bad idea. Instead, I think it could work that G-man is running out of options and is throwing literally everything at Freeman & co. to stop them, and finally has to play his final card. All G-man needs to do is point at Freeman and tell him he's the one responsible for all of his suffering.

2. While I find Shephard's story more scary than Gordons just by nature of being at the tail end of the Incident when everything has gone deathly quiet and also being 22 when this is all going down, I don't have as much attachment to him. He is by far the least characterized of the protags in the games. That said however, I don't want him to be another Barney or Eli where he suddenly has character now. If he's not going to be a sort-of boss then a subtle nod that he's been released or will escape because of G-man losing control would be nice.

3. Adding onto that point, I think you could also NOT answer what his fate is if you keep G-man alive. Reason being you could do a Portal 2 situation where you wrap up the story but have other avenues for doing more in that story. Think about it, you could set up another HL game perfectly by having G-man use Shephard as his new Freeman out of necessity, in fact Valve could use this to set up the original plot they had from the Hyper era of HL2. It's perfect. Of course that would also hinge on Valve making another HL game loool

 

[thhrang]

1. Schizo Shephard as the final boss, I think doing a direct G-man fight would be a bad idea. Instead, I think it could work that G-man is running out of options and is throwing literally everything at Freeman & co. to stop them, and finally has to play his final card. All G-man needs to do is point at Freeman and tell him he's the one responsible for all of his suffering.

Unless G-Man is mindcontrolling Shephard or something, I don't really see this specifically happening IMO. Shephard naturally helped the Black Mesa personnel since he didn't know any of his orders, and he watched as G-Man reactivated the nuke that he had attempted to diffuse, then watched as it detonated and blew up the entire facility right before being unwillingly "detained" and put into hibernation (not to mention when G-Man visibly cucked him out of escaping the base with the rest of his comrades). If I were Shephard, I would probably want revenge on the person who stopped me from escaping, blew up the facility, and kidnapped me. And yeah, since he's a mute character I don't really know how interaction would go, but I feel like it would be a tragic moment if he were brought back as an enemy you have to kill. It could be handled well, but could also be very underwhelming.

 

[Star Classic]

Unless G-Man is mindcontrolling Shephard or something, I don't really see this specifically happening IMO. Shephard naturally helped the Black Mesa personnel since he didn't know any of his orders, and he watched as G-Man reactivated the nuke that he had attempted to diffuse, then watched as it detonated and blew up the entire facility right before being unwillingly "detained" and put into hibernation (not to mention when G-Man visibly cucked him out of escaping the base with the rest of his comrades). If I were Shephard, I would probably want revenge on the person who stopped me from escaping, blew up the facility, and kidnapped me. And yeah, since he's a mute character I don't really know how interaction would go, but I feel like it would be a tragic moment if he were brought back as an enemy you have to kill. It could be handled well, but could also be very underwhelming.

Hmm, I think you could also rewrite that idea to be a subversion of expectations. Of course you would still need a final boss but I think it would also be cool that what brings down G-Man is his belief that his employees will blindly follow him. Maybe by the point we reach G-Man, Alyx might have been working against us so long that G-man really thinks his other options wont immediately try to frag him.

Also, it should be noted that the osprey Shephard was going to board actually gets blown up not too long after it leaves. So in that case it was a matter of G-Man saving him yet again.

 

[Miller]

I honestly just hope Valve actually knows what they're doing with the G-Man, just in general. I said it a few days ago but he's a huge mysterybox, including his actual relations & dealings with other characters. I don't want to see him squandered in HLX.

He must remain a mystery. If they try to explain things, he will end up like the Observers in the later seasons of the tv show Fringe.

 

[Red Frida]

Reminder, they really hate you.

Wow, 4 out of 10 niggers hate whites and only 3 out of 10 whites hate niggers. Statistics like that are what keeps me going when people tell me my advocating for TND is too extreme. How do I know you're not a nigger yourself?

 

[Nameless One]

I think Shepard shouldn't reappear. Highly doubt they even think of him as anything more than a sidestory of 1. They've introduced enough in HL2 for that to only convolute the narrative. Maybe if episode one and two never released, but now they have a particular sequence of events to unfold. Of course HL3 could pull the rug again and almost reboot/retool the way we think of Half Life with another drastic atmosphere change, but its unlikely since Alyx seemed to be a tech demo of sorts for a continuation of 2.

 

[Star Classic]

I think Shepard shouldn't reappear. Highly doubt they even think of him as anything more than a sidestory of 1. They've introduced enough in HL2 for that to only convolute the narrative. Maybe if episode one and two never released, but now they have a particular sequence of events to unfold. Of course HL3 could pull the rug again and almost reboot/retool the way we think of Half Life with another drastic atmosphere change, but its unlikely since Alyx seemed to be a tech demo of sorts for a continuation of 2.

I think it will a new setting, in my mind I think we could see possibly something like the Dark World from LTTP or maybe even new version of the displacer mechanic from OP4 since Xen seems to be featured prominently. Anyways, I think we'll see the Arctic and Xen be the two primary settings. Maybe even the Combine Overworld if Valve wants to go the High Charity route.

Forgot to mention, I think it would also be best for the overall cohesion of the story that Shephard doesn't appear, as much as I hate to say that. I just don't know how you work him in well (even with the ideas I had) that doesn't stop the story on a dime because suddenly you have an extremely popular and important character just show up.

 

[Nameless One]

Gman is not an antagonist or hero. He is an interdimensional? businessman. Chaotic Neutral maybe. I do not desire a bossfight with him. Sounds like fanfiction bullshit compared to what Valve would do. I would like to see a little bit of his game, maybe some more vague light on his employers. Do you think we're going to see him in the beginning again assuming this takes place after episode 2 with Eli's death? I'd honestly prefer a prologue to HL3 to basically be Episode 3 with Borealis, with the ice gun. And THEN HL3. But idk if Valve want continuity and pleasing fans. It would be an easy solution to Gaben's "mistake". Plus Borealis is an important location.

 

[1994 Honda Civic]

It would require Valve to spend less of their time and resources into the Steam Deck and development of Proton. And as far as to resurrect the idea of HL3 when we don't have the original storywriters and directors in the company anymore, who knows how it will go.

We could very well get an Alyx 2 type of game and stop the production of Half-Life for another 10 years with all that is available right now. I would also like to see some sort of conclusion that isn't a script but what set of expectations can be considered reasonable at this point?

 

[Nameless One]

Alyx took a lot from the original writer ideas for HL2 overall didn't it?