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StudMccool said:
2 questions for USPG2

1. Did America definitively lose the Vietnam war?

2. Could the war have been won short of nuclear weapons?
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1. Yeah

2. Invading and occupying North Vietnam, there's never been a war solely won on the defensive. The problem with Vietnam was the same with all the other forever wars, no easily discernable goals that can be achieved by military means.
 
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StudMccool said:
2 questions for USPG2

1. Did America definitively lose the Vietnam war?

2. Could the war have been won short of nuclear weapons?
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South Vietnam as a separate sovereign nation no longer exists so, yes. But on the other hand I hear the US has good relations with Vietnam these days in part because neither one likes China very much, so in the long run not really. At the cost of sounding like the bald fence sitting beanie faggot, It's Complicated™.

Not starting it in the first place or working with Ho Chi Minh against the Chinese while sweeping the whole "they're fucking commies too" fact under the rug might've worked. Failing that, giving both Walter Kronkite and hippies (boomers) the Kent State treatment en masse probably would've done wonders.
 
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The Big A said:
1. Yeah

2. Invading and occupying North Vietnam, there's never been a war solely won on the defensive. The problem with Vietnam was the same with all the other forever wars, no easily discernable goals that can be achieved by military means.
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I offer 1 counterpoint, plz watch the viddeo he says one of the funniest terms for asians I have ever heard, gooksmen, with such deadly seriousness


edit: I had wrong one, I have one where he says gooksmen
 
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Corpos will lie, cheat and steal. They don’t care. Your tuna is probably young Thai ladyboi corpses and halibut, lol.
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what? why would it be halibut? do you know anything about fish? tuna is like 2x cheaper than halibut. tuna is one of the cheapest types of fish on the market, once again. i ask you, why would they bother? steak? sure! pork? i could see that. but they're definitely not replacing $5-10 a pound tuna with halibut, which costs $20-30 a pound.

i'm not saying they wouldn't lie to me, of course they would. i'm asking what the purpose of the lie would be. they would be replacing one of the cheapest fish options with one of the most expensive in your example.
 
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MetokurGroomedMe said:
yeah afghanistan went great, they didn't have civilians falling off landing gear or anything!

i know you're a retard and all, but just in case anyone doesn't know, here are the names of the 13 soldiers biden got killed because he wanted to epically own drumpf
www.marinecorpstimes.com

Here are the names of the 13 U.S. service members killed in Afghanistan attack

Thirteen U.S. service members died Thursday in Kabul, Afghanistan, supporting Operation Freedom’s Sentinel.
www.marinecorpstimes.com www.marinecorpstimes.com
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I can't blame Biden, he's too out to lunch; Trump started the pullout, Biden finished it, and the high command ghouls objected and fucked around the whole way. Generals killed those soldiers to own their civilian commanders who tried to end a 20 year long war. They have names, and a lot of them still have jobs; hopefully not for long.
 
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MetokurGroomedMe said:
what? why would it be halibut? do you know anything about fish? tuna is like 2x cheaper than halibut. tuna is one of the cheapest types of fish on the market, once again. i ask you, why would they bother? steak? sure! pork? i could see that. but they're definitely not replacing $5-10 a pound tuna with halibut, which costs $20-30 a pound.

i'm not saying they wouldn't lie to me, of course they would. i'm asking what the purpose of the lie would be. they would be replacing one of the cheapest fish options with one of the most expensive in your example.
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Because when you fill in distance, time, slave labor and market price, tuna doesn’t afford you gains compared to corpses being 158 pounds and actual decent fish vs real tuna.
 
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Gregis said:
I can't blame Biden, he's too out to lunch; Trump started the pullout, Biden finished it, and the high command ghouls objected and fucked around the whole way. Generals killed those soldiers to own their civilian commanders who tried to end a 20 year long war. They have names, and a lot of them still have jobs; hopefully not for long.
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what? that's not what happened. trump had a date selected, and the biden administration pushed it way forward so that they could be out of afghanistan by the anniversary of 9/11. if biden gave his generals a bad order, one of their jobs is to stop him from doing that by explaining to him why that's a problem, and as the PRESIDENT it was his job to listen. just because he was fuckin toasted doesn't mean he's not still the elected president. liberals voted for him, he doesn't get to have his name spitshined and protected from the scum he's slung along it in his desperate bid to keep his crackhead son from facing consequences for corrupt business dealings.
 
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StudMccool said:
2 questions for USPG2

1. Did America definitively lose the Vietnam war?

2. Could the war have been won short of nuclear weapons?
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Lose, no. Pulled out, yes.
And the war could have been won. A lot of the wars we've "lost" could have been decisive victory. The rules of war and engagements are the greatest hinderance (but the morally correct) to how we conduct our warfare.
It's almost a taste of our own medicine. We won the revolution because boys slathered up in mud and waited in hills to shoot the regimented lines.
When you have two combatants, and one rapes and pillages and fucks corpses and sends children with grenades in their hands toward the nice western man as matter of course that no one blinks an eye at or writes an article about.
And the other combatant under constant scrutiny with every nation and journofag chomping at the bit to get that image of the western man clubbing the rapist cannibal pedophile a little too hard with his rifle, hands get tied.
If America was allowed to act like the savages they fight, we'd win every war. But lose ourselves. You have to weigh which one means more to you.
 
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MetokurGroomedMe said:
what? that's not what happened. trump had a date selected, and the biden administration pushed it way forward so that they could be out of afghanistan by the anniversary of 9/11. if biden gave his generals a bad order, one of their jobs is to stop him from doing that by explaining to him why that's a problem, and as the PRESIDENT it was his job to listen. just because he was fuckin toasted doesn't mean he's not still the elected president. liberals voted for him, he doesn't get to have his name spitshined and protected from the scum he's slung along it in his desperate bid to keep his crackhead son from facing consequences for corrupt business dealings.
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Also "the adults are back in charge, the buck stops with me, fat"
 
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