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So to update Americas Ukraine policy. America just agreed to more commitment for Ukraine but Trump and Vance decided to sperg out on Zelensky for nothing, again what is the plan here ?

Zelensky did kind of start the debate but why did Trump and Vance escalate this so much.
Because we never should have given them shit in the first place. Do you remember where, exactly, Hunter Biden was caught smoking crack with underage hookers?

Yeah, with Biden in Ukraine could ask for just about anything because, ya know, blackmail.

The current plan is for the US to not have anything to do with Ukraine because this shit has nothing to do with us. If we can get some concessions out of it that's nice, but the PLAN is to tell Ukraine to fuck off and if Europe continues to be a little bitch to have them defend themselves. Given the history of Europe since oh about 1928 or so I don't think it stands much of a chance personally.
 
What's funnier is I'm pretty sure Vance was more pissed. Dude looked ready to explode the second Zelensky said whatever he said.
He's a former Marine. He probably feels pretty passionate about ending a conflict where hundreds of thousands of poor young men are sent to die horribly and pointlessly.
 
Does someone have the full clip of the Ze Trump meeting or at least know how the row started up? All the clips I see are after its already got started and I want to see how it began.
 
This picture basically encapsulates the whole day, literally all Zelensky had to do was smile and nod and sign off on the agreement. Instead, he shot his own country in the head live on TV. I even say this as someone that has generally been supportive of Ukraine.

This was actually genius. Zelensky said his people support this war, to the last man standing. Zelensky publicly rejected peace.

We will see what his people say but, there’s already a petition to depose him.

Very publicly, Trump forced Zelensky and the people of Ukraine hand’s. Peace or nothing, Zelensky publicly refused peace. Ukraine people can now choose war to the bloody end, without America, or remove Zelensky and negotiate peace.

We don’t have to resort to any nefarious tactics and it was all done public, for the world, without lies or spin.
 
I wouldent be surprised if only europes real citizens are sent into the meat grinder and the illegal immigrants get to stay home and take over even more.

I don't remember the actual breakdown, but in the UK barely any of the muslims and africans they're importing actually join the military.

If they get involved they will destroy the country and leave a another muslim shithole for everyone else to have to deal with.
 
I wouldent be surprised if only europes real citizens are sent into the meat grinder and the illegal immigrants get to stay home and take over even more.
No shit sherlock. "We can't make these poor refugees fight our wars for us." - some fucking WEF stooge. And even if we tried, they can't speak our language, they can't follow orders, they are extremists that will shoot their officers as soon as handed a gun and most of them will just fucking run before any of that.
 
He might have not gotten a good deal and is likely going to end up worse for the rest of his country but he dissed Trump and he got lots of updoots.
He is fucking suicidal his own people and political party want him gone and this will only speed it up. He could've kneeled and smiled, stepped down as president after the deal is signed and went to enjoy the billions he stole in the swiss alps or something.

He really is a libtard theater kid he acts exactly like they all do totally fucking stupid.
 
He might have not gotten a good deal and is likely going to end up worse for the rest of his country but he dissed Trump and he got lots of updoots.
If Trump really wants Zelenskyy dead, he can announce the end of all US military aid to Ukraine while Zelenskyy is flying back.

I cannot fucking believe that Zelenskyy is willing to risk it all just so he can do an Orange Man Bad routine.

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amazing film. really fucking harrowing. i was thinking about scenes from that movie for days after. highly recommend to anyone else in the thread who hasn't seen it.
The soviet version of Threads. About as harrowing as you can get before you have to market like Faces of death in the back of magazines.
 
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