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In my opinion, all Zelenskyy had to do was talk about how Trump is so great and everything would be fine. Instead, he's going out of his way to insult Trump. It's hilarious. I can't believe Zelenskyy blew it like this and the media sycophants saying this is the end of America now is the cherry on top. It really goes to show whose side these journalists are on. If they care so much about Ukraine, they can pick up a rifle and go fight.
I don't even think he had to fluff trumps nuts either. It seems trump was more annoyed zelensky just outright refused to believe in a peace treaty or cease fire.
 

🚨🚨 High-level Trump sources tell me the White House is now uncertain if they can get the Russians and Ukrainians to stop fighting because this episode with @ZelenskyyUa raised questions about whether he can move forward toward a peace deal. It also raises questions about whether US will pause aid to Ukraine. But Trump is NOT seeking regime change in Ukraine. No discussions about who in Ukraine might be a better leader than Zelenskyy.

Ukrainian officials have reached out this afternoon to senior White House officials desperate to get the deal back on track. But that will not happen today, I'm told. Trump is unwilling to talk to Zelenskyy further today.

When Rubio and Waltz went into the Roosevelt Room to ask Zelenskyy to leave, Rubio made it clear that any further engagements today would be counterproductive. Waltz told Zelenskyy he had made a tremendous mistake, and it was a grave disservice to Ukraine and to Americans, both.

No phone calls between Trump and Putin have been scheduled. But multiple European officials have called top Trump officials since Zelenskyy left asking how the minerals deal can be salvaged.

Trump fully intended to sign the minerals deal today. Two official binders were prepared -- Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and his Ukrainian counterpart and the two presidents were going to sit at a conference table in the East Room and then trumpet their success at podiums.

But there were suspicions before Zelenskyy arrived today that it might fall apart. Because the Trump admin had been pushing for weeks for a minerals deal signing at the ministerial level, and Ukraine had refused. Zelenskyy wanted security guarantees.

US officials thought negotiations would be much harder with **Putin** so today have been been in disbelief that it has been Zelenskyy who has been more difficult, making maximalist demands, sources told me.
Trump just blew put America in a position where neither side is happy with America, America has no leverage and the war will not stop.
 
How is Zelensky shitting the bed for Ukraine bad for the EU? If we had leaders with a shred of dignity they would demand his resignation now and end this charade in the Ukraine.
Because it exposes how weak their house of cards is that if the US leaving the conflict is like handing Russia the win, like the EU isn't even a factor. We just had fucking Starmer say that they would only send soldiers for peacekeeping purposes and only if the US can guarantee their safety.

It has gotten to the point where I wish they kept the LARP and have them try to send their constituents (whom they have raped, figuratively and literally) with migrants to the point where they fucking hate them, to die for Ukraine to see how quickly it would all fall apart.
 

NEWS: When asked if the minerals deal is still on the table, multiple top Trump officials said: Not today.

None of this drama premeditated. Trump officials were incredulous that some media outlets suggested it might have been. The greeting with Trump and Zelenskyy was warm, with jokes and a guest book signing in the West Wing lobby. They went straight into the Oval and the vibe was positive. White House wanted this deal done today.

Trump believes that Zelenskyy missed out on a huge opportunity to have the US as a business partner, with US companies helping Ukraine monetize mineral resources such as gas, oil, aluminum, tritrium, gallium and others. Trump viewed it as the 1st step in in a progression towards peace.

France's Macron, the UK's Starmer, the sec general of NATO have all been talking to Trump and his team about troop presence in Ukraine, what the security guarantees would look like. But now US officials believe Zelenskyy has put his country in a terrible position, sources told me.

Instead of leaving with the US as a major business partner and all that that status would mean for Ukraine, Trump officials think Zelenskky left looking foolish, without reassuring Ukraine and without assuring American people they'll get to recoup their hundreds of billions, the officials said.
 
After watching Trump and Vance vs Zelensky, after the nonsense with the Epstein files...

This feels like a lot of theater.
It seemed planned for the cameras.
Remember that Trump is an entertainer at heart, and so is Zelensky.
I dunno. Might be real but something feels off.
Nah, I don't know if you've ever seen Trump "act" but he's a shit actor. He sounds like Alec Baldwin's terrible impression of him when he's acting. If it were fake you would know, it seemed pretty authentic to me.
 
When you have Lindsey Graham (the #1 Ukraine cocksucker in the Senate) telling Zelensky off publicly to the media you have to realize how bad you fucked up.

Graham legit wants to go to war with Russia more than anyone and he still wants Zelensky to resign for being a fucking retard in the oval office.

Also apparently Zelensky wants to come back and sign the deal right now but Trump said "na you ain't coming back today"
 
Nah, I don't know if you've ever seen Trump "act" but he's a shit actor. He sounds like Alec Baldwin's terrible impression of him when he's acting. If it were fake you would know, it seemed pretty authentic to me.
True. I used to watch his tv shows and he was so stiff and akward lol. That was part of the charm for those shows tho.
 
I don't even think he had to fluff trumps nuts either. It seems trump was more annoyed zelensky just outright refused to believe in a peace treaty or cease fire.
I agree. Zelenskyy didn't have to kiss the ring, he just had to be friendly. Instead, he's peacocking for all the liberals. It's like this guy has never had a boss before.
 
trump to White House security after Zelensky's display:
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If Ukraine needs a new cokehead to be in charge I know just the guy. He was a comic as well and his joke about Dennys is even funnier than playing the piano with your dick. There's only one way Ukraine can be saved, PUT ON THE MEDALLION ZELENSKYY
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"Good luck and fuck off"
Yes, we fucking deserve it and hopefully it will be a wake up call. There has been way too much fucking around and nowhere near enough finding out.

You don't give reasons for the bear to wake up and you don't play the gay little games of the US pushed by globohomo. Europe failed to learn both of those lessons and is asking for a fucking reckoning.

Do expect it to be spun that Trump is Putler's puppet though. There is no way in hell you aren't convimcing anybody pro Ukraine that this isn't betrayal. People can't accept that "helping you is detrimental to me" is not the same as "I'm in Putin's pocket because I love getting bribes in a coin that isn't worth shit while being stupidly rich already".
 
He's a former Marine. He probably feels pretty passionate about ending a conflict where hundreds of thousands of poor young men are sent to die horribly and pointlessly.
The cabbage patch kid faced faggot was a fucking propaganda journalist, he didnt even kill any sandniggers for globohomo. What the fuck would he know about fighting an existential war for your country, defending your home soil?

I think Zelenskyy is a retard and committed a historical fuckup by not just keeping his mouth shut, but poojeet loving Vance is an absolute bitch and a jackass. I’ll enjoy watching him lose in four years.
 
Zalenskyy wants the war to continue is what it looks like. He thinks there is some kind of future where Russia is made to apologize or just not exist or whatever is going on in his head. Ukraine was bordering on open civil war prior to the invasion, Russia is keeping a large amount of land regardless of what Zalenskyy believes, Russia still has millions of men to commit to the war, Ukraine doesn't even with retard lefties running off to fight.
DJT nailed him dead to rights, Zalenskyy is a dictator in all but name. He's making this worse for Ukraine, when it could have been done and over years ago.
 
I can not believe we gave this theater kid all of that money when we could have sent it all to Israel. Does Zelensky not realize how much money he has stolen from Jews? Russia was right when he said Ukraine needed denazification.
Israel could have already had a greater head start on the middle east cleansing!
 
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No.

Biology still exists. You’re stronger? Cool, that makes work easier for you.

Can you make milk to feed babies?

We didn’t out-evolve the way human history has worked for our entire known past in a single generation
That's why I excluded trade work in my original statement. Women don't need a strong back to get paid $130k a year to be a middle manager. Theres a lot of women out there making big money and almost none of them are swinging a sledge hammer.
 
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