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Should be a wild four years.

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how it COULD have played out and got the good ending
zelenskyy: yeah these russians turned our country into a barren wasteland, please, could you at least try to tell putin to stop?
trump: ok

But noooo He just had to be the man, he couldn’t admit he’s just barely fending these guys off. he just had to look good by saying orange man bad and fuck everything over. If he went the eric Addams route admitted he had a problem that was out of his control not only would the problem be solved in a matter of days he could have gained more respect (it’s disgusting how the dems treated him afterwards but he has a lot of sympathy from new yorkers an I honestly hope he pulls through) why is it so hard to admit you have a problem and turn down a potential opportunity?
Very few people I've spoken to today understand that if Zelensky began signing off on things like mining operations, you can have the United States, Russia and others have a stake in Ukraine. This is a nation in desperate need of some reason for it to continue existing. People will cooperate if it means steady income. Yes, minerals are finite and will eventually run out. Use this as a way to stop people from shooting each other and invest time, money and infrastructure into your nation. It's a stepping stone, you can build from here. You can't build anything when your country is a battlefield and your citizens are either dying or fleeing.
 
Zelensky's been acting like an entitled prick to everyone giving Ukraine billions in aid for years, glad Trump finally called him out on it to his fuckin face.
 

🚨🚨 High-level Trump sources tell me the White House is now uncertain if they can get the Russians and Ukrainians to stop fighting because this episode with @ZelenskyyUa raised questions about whether he can move forward toward a peace deal. It also raises questions about whether US will pause aid to Ukraine. But Trump is NOT seeking regime change in Ukraine. No discussions about who in Ukraine might be a better leader than Zelenskyy.

Ukrainian officials have reached out this afternoon to senior White House officials desperate to get the deal back on track. But that will not happen today, I'm told. Trump is unwilling to talk to Zelenskyy further today.

When Rubio and Waltz went into the Roosevelt Room to ask Zelenskyy to leave, Rubio made it clear that any further engagements today would be counterproductive. Waltz told Zelenskyy he had made a tremendous mistake, and it was a grave disservice to Ukraine and to Americans, both.

No phone calls between Trump and Putin have been scheduled. But multiple European officials have called top Trump officials since Zelenskyy left asking how the minerals deal can be salvaged.

Trump fully intended to sign the minerals deal today. Two official binders were prepared -- Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and his Ukrainian counterpart and the two presidents were going to sit at a conference table in the East Room and then trumpet their success at podiums.

But there were suspicions before Zelenskyy arrived today that it might fall apart. Because the Trump admin had been pushing for weeks for a minerals deal signing at the ministerial level, and Ukraine had refused. Zelenskyy wanted security guarantees.

US officials thought negotiations would be much harder with **Putin** so today have been been in disbelief that it has been Zelenskyy who has been more difficult, making maximalist demands, sources told me.
"Russia gets all of Ukraine because Zelenskyy is too stupid to do peace"
 
I think it was handled in a way that has given Trump exactly what he wanted.
Exactly. If Zelensky signs the treaty, Trump becomes a peacemaker with rights to minerals for the US. Zelensky refuses, Trump has all the ammo he needs to justify withdrawing support from Ukraine and possibly from NATO. Either way, he wins.
 
I'm genuinely fascinated by Zelenskyy's behavior today. Who is advising him? Did he think that he was in a position to show up and make demands while talking to the press instead of to the President?

He has been acting a fool and getting away with it for a very long time. For a year or so, he was raised up to the status of a sort of god and everyone was kissing his ass. He would show up to military meetings, demand weapons systems from the US that he had been told he would not get, and he would get them. He was able on multiple occasions to push the US around and get his way. The is not the first time he has acted like this. Its the first time that someone stood up to him and put him in his place.

He should not have expected anything different. He inserted himself more than once in the election on the side of Kamala. Doing that was as stupid and self-destructive as anything he did today.
 
Realistically i expect things to cool off come tomorrow. And talks be expected to continue after a couple of days
Since apparently Zelensky is already asking to come back I expect Trump to give him a worse deal that he will nearly be forced to sign out of desperation.
 
did i just witness a politician bomb worse than the literal fucking dementia patient a party pretended was competent?

god fucking damn, i'm glad i'm not polish russian rejects
 
he really worked himself up yesterday, he was posting every 10 mins

poor guy is all tuckered out
Maybe he has a quota and had to rush to catch up since he hadn't posted much in February.

Edit: ...unironically, can some match his post history to dates and see if it increases toward the end of the month?
 
What's the opinion in the UK and EU about a draft of the young adults?
I don't know about other EU countries but my country is currently going through massive protests and no one cares or talks about Ukraine anymore. Additionally the Pm and his cabinet are so unpopular that if he dares to say anything about direct involvement the protests may escalate even further. He's a retard but probably not that retarded.
 
Of course Zelensky is wrong to be rude and pushy about the money we're giving them, but it's embarrassing for the president to have an autistic scree like that as well.

You know what?

He should have done this on day one.

He should have told Zelensky to fuck right off and never return to the US under threat of incarceration.

After stretching the taxpayers wallets thin over the course of four years for the manlet euronigger, who should be hanged on a streetlight in an abandoned city, Zelensky deserves nothing but absolute humiliation.
 
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He's literally a dictator you dumb faggot. Bans elections and sends journalists critical of him to the front line the die.
Hey cut him some slack. He sometimes just lets his secret service beat and detain the journalists until they die.
 
Of course Zelensky is wrong to be rude and pushy about the money we're giving them, but it's embarrassing for the president to have an autistic scree like that as well.
What's autistic about standing up for yourself and your nation and refusing to be told what to do by a retarded jew in a "tactical t shirt".
 
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