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That has nothing to do with it. The expected behavior in an event like that is to be quiet and say as little as possible. The one thing you don't do is get aggressive and create a confrontation. If you want to challenge Trump or Vance, you do it in private after rather than in front of the media.

Trump will say things you don't agree with. But if you have something to say about it, you wait until you get in private or you get back home. You don't do a confrontation like that ever unless you have something to gain by it. He had everything to lose and nothing to gain by talking big like that.
If anything Zelensky uses his ignorance of the English language as a shield/crutch. It was kinda obvious in the exchange
 
That has nothing to do with it. The expected behavior in an event like that is to be quiet and say as little as possible. The one thing you don't do is get aggressive and create a confrontation. If you want to challenge Trump or Vance, you do it in private after rather than in front of the media.

Trump will say things you don't agree with. But if you have something to say about it, you wait until you get in private or you get back home. You don't do a confrontation like that ever unless you have something to gain by it. He had everything to lose and nothing to gain by talking big like that.
This is just a hunch, but I believe Zelensky has to "appear strong" because his constituents are a bunch of gruff slavs who have lost everything actively fighting a war. A pretty large portion of those slavs have at least one swastika tattoo. If Zelensky showed up to the meeting and silently nodded his head to everything like a bitch, that would not go over well with his troops. He might be in a bad position where he needs to cozy up to the United States, but give off the impression he's not their bitch.
 
Another plane just about fell out of the sky
I love the media narrative today.

I'd guess dozens of planes declare an emergency every day, probably more. Pilots are taught to declare an emergency any time they need special handling, usually to get on the ground quicker, or assistance on the ground to prevent a worse problem. Patient having a medical issue, hit a bird, plane on fire, alternator failed, ran out of soda, etc. Best case, you land and have a brief chat with the fire crew, call ATC and let them know what happened, maybe a follow up from the FAA and a chat with your employer. Worst case they're ready to put out the fire when you land and know how many were on the plane.

The only time there's going to be an issue is if it's an emergency of your own making like insufficient fuel. But it's still better to land safely and explain to the FAA later and maybe get your license suspended than have ATC put you 15th in line to land and you run out of fuel and crash into a house.
 
The sad truth is is this: this whole thing blew up because of lack of understanding of cultural differences, and Zelensky's poor English skills.

Amerifriends itt are shitting on Z because they don't understand the cultural differences and way of thinking and acting of a guy from across the globe.

Likewise, Z does not understand English turn of phrases or culture and he sperged out when Trump said things such as "you don't have the cards", implying (from Zs perspective) that the whole thing (the war, people dying) is a game.

It takes deep knowledge of both cultures to understand why the misunderstandings occurred and how both sides feel disrespected and slighted.

Even the suitsperg: Z would be seen as an untrustworthy retard by his people if he walked around in a nice suit while his people are dying in trenches. Amerifriends think him not wearing a suit to the WH is disgraceful and disrespectful. Again, you need to understand both cultures to see that both sides are right, in their own view.

What's bothering me is that there was no one in the WH or briefing before the meeting who understands both cultures and speaks both languages fluently to be able to mediate and explain these differences to these two groups of people.

It doesn't matter what the general public thinks of all that happened, the general public is retarded. But the politicians playing with countries futures and people's lives SHOULD be more informed than the general public.
I am no fan of Russia or its dumb little spergout, but we don't need a cultural translator to recognize a dude act like a petulant child. Zelenskyy should know better than to act like this to the dude writing his checks who is already leery about the whole arrangement.

Keir Starmer has way more leverage than Zelenskyy. The UK has a stable government, an army, a nuclear response force, and a legendary intelligence service that shares critical information with the USA regularly. Did he sperg out when Trump and Vance mentioned free speech concerns? No, he did not. Does he care? I don't think so, but he has the tact to shut the fuck up and let it go.

This is super simple stuff.
 
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We have more generals than bombers, the B52s shot down over Hanoi never got rebuilt.
You need boats to be able to power project. You need tanks for combined arms warfare on the ground or else anything heavier than a taxi cab will unironically blitz you. You know what can be put on those boats? Missiles, which are logistically superior to traditional bombers in nearly every means and way. Bombers that the US is only really able to use against non-peer threats. This is why we're ordering the new Raider by the way, since stealth coating a missile is basically impossible, it's the next technological development necessary to combat China's technologically growing air defense network.
Also it doesn't help that we've been artificially stimmed by slapping "all rounder" on fighter aircraft and using those as bombtrucks. The US has over 200 F-15E Strike Eagles, the ground-attack variant of the F-15 and, effectively, used as a bomber. Fucking the C-130 has been used as a bomber! EVERYTHING IS A BOMBER IN AMERICA INSHALLAH

In conclusion, shut the fuck up, Murica fuck yeah.
 
You mouth breathing retard, did you miss the largest and SECOND largest airforce in the world part? The US Airforce aren't the only branch with bombers
lets not get worked up boss, I take your point, I just think your misunderstanding how bad the US has kept up with mainting our stockpiles. there is no more bombers, I dident search by army or navy I just searched totalt amount of bombers owned by the united states and its 140 and thats GENEROUS

Id say the real number is closer to about 75 OPERATIONAL at any given time, if you think Im wrong feel free to provide proof of our large bomber fleets Im unaware of
 
You need boats to be able to power project. You need tanks for combined arms warfare on the ground or else anything heavier than a taxi cab will unironically blitz you. You know what can be put on those boats? Missiles, which are logistically superior to traditional bombers in nearly every means and way. Bombers that the US is only really able to use against non-peer threats. This is why we're ordering the new Raider by the way, since stealth coating a missile is basically impossible, it's the next technological development necessary to combat China's technologically growing air defense network.
Also it doesn't help that we've been artificially stimmed by slapping "all rounder" on fighter aircraft and using those as bombtrucks. The US has over 200 F-15E Strike Eagles, the ground-attack variant of the F-15 and, effectively, used as a bomber. Fucking the C-130 has been used as a bomber! EVERYTHING IS A BOMBER IN AMERICA INSHALLAH

In conclusion, shut the fuck up, Murica fuck yeah.
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Im going to try and be nice about this but do you need me to explain how diffrent sized airplanes do diffrent jobs, not just based on how we are feeling but by their sheer physical makeup

do you understand why having less than 150 bombers in a fleet might be a problem when the fucking vietanmese were able to to shoot 3 down with wire guided soviet era missiles?

Its like playing whack-a-mole some days....
 
lets not get worked up boss, I take your point, I just think your misunderstanding how bad the US has kept up with mainting our stockpiles. there is no more bombers, I dident search by army or navy I just searched totalt amount of bombers owned by the united states and its 140 and thats GENEROUS

Id say the real number is closer to about 75 OPERATIONAL at any given time, if you think Im wrong feel free to provide proof of our large bomber fleets Im unaware of
This isn't the 70s and 80s anymore where we only have specific aircraft for specific missions. Most new fixed wing aircraft made for the US now are multirole and can be used for bombing duties if needed.
 
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