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Vance has made a habit of criticizing foreign leaders when they visit the White House, he did it to Starmer yesterday and now Zelensky.
To have an accurate barometer, we'll have to see if he does it to anybody who isn't a complete piece of shit.
I guess it's supposed to show solidarity with the troops or the nation or something. I.e 'as long as the nation is at war, I will dress for war'.

I recall Hitler made a similar pledge during WW2.
Nigga running over Europe like it was the NHL playoffs.
honestly I like that he dresses down, all he needs is a benie like tim pool.
Even Tim Pool went 3/4ths of the way. (It just occurred to me, I wonder if he got married in his beanie.)
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I think the Manlet of Ukraine was hoping, praying, doing everything he could for Kamala to become president in the hopes of starting WW3 to drive off Russia. Now that she lost the morons are still trying to get back on track with their stupid plans. Not accounting Trump is not gonna start WW3 for no reason. Zelensky is delusional and so are the EU tard high command. Macron might be the only one aware the situation has changed.
Zelensky appears to have forgotten that Trump is America First. He doesn't care if Ukraine gets invaded by Russia, because he'll just make a deal with Putin instead. Zelly should have been much more humble in the Oval Office, he might have just gotten wiped Ukraine off the world map through his ignorant actions.
 
To have an accurate barometer, we'll have to see if he does it to anybody who isn't a complete piece of shit.

Nigga running over Europe like it was the NHL playoffs.

Even Tim Pool went 3/4ths of the way. (It just occurred to me, I wonder if he got married in his beanie.)
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Beanie is his brand so it's excusable to a degree
 
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Why are people acting like Zelensky walked into the Oval Office, dropped his pants and dropped a shit on Trump’s desk right in front of him instead of just mildly challenging him and Vance on a couple of issues?
Alright let me explain it to you. You do not agree to a deal for weeks beforehand, and then at the very very last possible second try to change the terms of your agreement without expecting some backlash.
 
I guess it's supposed to show solidarity with the troops or the nation or something. I.e 'as long as the nation is at war, I will dress for war'.
He sure put on a suit real quick when Netanyahu was around, however....


mildly challenging him and Vance on a couple of issues?
Right, because "mildly challenging on a couple of issues" gets you escorted out of the building by the Secretary of State, rather than strolling out with the President for a photo-op.
 
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Why are people acting like Zelensky walked into the Oval Office, dropped his pants and dropped a shit on Trump’s desk right in front of him instead of just mildly challenging him and Vance on a couple of issues?
Because the couple of issues they disagree with are important, like not recognizing how fucked you are, the amount of losses you carry or that the US is not responsible for what happens to you.

You also can't make it look like the US is the bad guy here when they are the only ones holding the fort, at least economically, more than everyone else combined.

The only interest the US has in this anymore is trying to salvage some money back. Take whatever they offer and shut up because is either that or nothing, and every faggot who says "I stand for Ukraine" will quickly turn tail and dissapear the moment it's their turn to contribute.
 
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I only get a bit of Russian, and they have this small "b" letter which is sort of a modifier. I'm guessing that's what this is about, but actual Russian speakers could let me know I'm wrong. I don't have a Russian keyboard installed, but with a Serbian on (it lacks the small b modifier), I THINK this would be his native spelling:

зеленцки[followed by the weird small 'b']

So: Z-E-L-E-N-Ts-K-I-modifier to make the 'I' long
 
What's more interesting here, is that I clicked on the first 7-8 of these 'messages of support' and didn't see any support under them. While they all have many thousands of likes, all the commentary is telling them to go fuck themselves. Some of that commentary was from the American public but an awful lot of it was from their own populace.

And while there are plenty of Slava Ukraine dipshits all over Europe, they will change their tune if it comes down to real changes in their standard of living or any real threat of men being sent into a stupid forever war.
 
The sad truth is is this: this whole thing blew up because of lack of understanding of cultural differences, and Zelensky's poor English skills.

Amerifriends itt are shitting on Z because they don't understand the cultural differences and way of thinking and acting of a guy from across the globe.

Likewise, Z does not understand English turn of phrases or culture and he sperged out when Trump said things such as "you don't have the cards", implying (from Zs perspective) that the whole thing (the war, people dying) is a game.

It takes deep knowledge of both cultures to understand why the misunderstandings occurred and how both sides feel disrespected and slighted.

Even the suitsperg: Z would be seen as an untrustworthy retard by his people if he walked around in a nice suit while his people are dying in trenches. Amerifriends think him not wearing a suit to the WH is disgraceful and disrespectful. Again, you need to understand both cultures to see that both sides are right, in their own view.

What's bothering me is that there was no one in the WH or briefing before the meeting who understands both cultures and speaks both languages fluently to be able to mediate and explain these differences to these two groups of people.

It doesn't matter what the general public thinks of all that happened, the general public is retarded. But the politicians playing with countries futures and people's lives SHOULD be more informed than the general public.
 
So funny seeing the rest of ukraines allies step up like "we're here for you buddy, we promise to spend more billions that should go to our own people so you can continue the slav meatgrinder hullaballoo indefinitely. we heckin love democracy!" See how long that lasts.

Zelensky really thought he could out bravado Trump while sounding like he sells knockoff kicks out the back of his van. what a putz.
 
Why are people acting like Zelensky walked into the Oval Office, dropped his pants and dropped a shit on Trump’s desk right in front of him instead of just mildly challenging him and Vance on a couple of issues?

Because he did take a shit on the desk. The purpose of a public event like that in another country is to get through it. Its not forum for challenging anyone or making points. He was supposed to sit there and be nice no matter what they did. Its a basic part of the job he has and he blew it. If you have to talk, you say things that are meaningless or inoffensive. You probably also should not meet with a democratic senator right before you meet with Trump.

If you are going to challenge Trump or Vance on issues, you do it behind closed doors after the press event and not in public. That is how these things work. Or you wait until your back home and say something there. or better yet you get a European leader to say it for you.
 
I don't know if Trump and Vance have been media trained
You don’t know if Donald Trump, a man who has been in the media nearly his entire adult life, well over 50 years mind you, is media trained? The dude not only hosted an award winning reality shoe for a decade, he also made decades worth of cameos and even did an entire WWE storyline. At this point in his life, Donald Trump is an expert when it comes to presenting himself on camera
 
Zelensky made the simple mistake that Trump will care about Biden's blackmail, he made the mistake of acting like a spoiled brat during a guaranteed deal that'll help them in the long run, and lastly he made a mistake of threating our president during said meeting. Either he's going to get replaced or Ukraine will be part of Russia. Maybe he could go back to dancing in drag or plopping his dick on a piano in Russia.
 
The sad truth is is this: this whole thing blew up because of lack of understanding of cultural differences, and Zelensky's poor English skills.

Amerifriends itt are shitting on Z because they don't understand the cultural differences and way of thinking and acting of a guy from across the globe.

Likewise, Z does not understand English turn of phrases or culture and he sperged out when Trump said things such as "you don't have the cards", implying (from Zs perspective) that the whole thing (the war, people dying) is a game.

It takes deep knowledge of both cultures to understand why the misunderstandings occurred and how both sides feel disrespected and slighted.

Even the suitsperg: Z would be seen as an untrustworthy retard by his people if he walked around in a nice suit while his people are dying in trenches. Amerifriends think him not wearing a suit to the WH is disgraceful and disrespectful. Again, you need to understand both cultures to see that both sides are right, in their own view.

What's bothering me is that there was no one in the WH or briefing before the meeting who understands both cultures and speaks both languages fluently to be able to mediate and explain these differences to these two groups of people.

It doesn't matter what the general public thinks of all that happened, the general public is retarded. But the politicians playing with countries futures and people's lives SHOULD be more informed than the general public.
They sure as fuck understood Biden when he said: "We are going to give you all the money!". There was no problem then, apparently.
 
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