Joe: So what's taken so long with these Epstein files.
Elon: Yeah what's up with that?
Joe: What is up with that? It's like Lucy and the football with Charlie Brown when she always pulls that football away. It's the same thing. It's like they keep telling us they're going to release it. Day one. Oh day one.
Elon: We have a serious case of no one's being arrested or a phobia, you know.
Joe: Right.
Elon: Like what the fuck is going on?
Joe: What the fuck is going on. Also there's this real fear that someone's destroying the evidence, and you keep hearing these stories, unsubstantiated stories, of—you know—FBI people.
Elon: Where the evidence? I mean the guy had like tons of videos and recordings. I mean he had all sorts of things. Like there's a mountain of evidence. So where's that mountain?
Joe: Yeah, where is that mountain? And what would be the reason why they would agree... like, there would have to be
something in it for them to agree to not put it out, Right?
Like, there has to be some sort of financial entanglement; some sort of relationship with the people that are on that list; that they can provide a value; that was big enough for you to not release it; or to slow relase it; or to hope you can get away with, like, putting out some redacted files that don't show anything.
Elon: redacted, redacted, redacted
Joe: "This is only stage one. Don't worry. The real stuff's coming." That doesn't make any sense. Why wouldn't you just release it all. What could possibly be worth protecting in there?
Elon: Well, I mean, I think I've got probably the same information that... I mean I'm just reading what's the latest thing on X. You know, I'm just looking at my X feed. And I'm like, yeah. You know.
[sarcastic] It's a real page turner. [/sarcastic]
And, like I thought we were going to get some revelations today. It was like big binders full of stuff there's got to be something in there.
Joe: Well there was all those people that were given a copy of it. They were all waving it around like they got the Willy Wonka ticket.
Elon: Yeah, yeah, totally.
Joe: Yeah, and what happened? Nothing.
I think Laura Loomer released it online.
Jamey (assistant): yeah she's not very pleased about this.
Joe: So does anybody find anything in there that's interesting?
Jamey (assistant): no it's all old stuff from 2015.
Joe: What the fuck is going on?
Elon: Apparently they "discovered" a whole bunch of stuff at the southern district of New York.
Joe: Right.
Elon: So... that's... and and and... I'm like and I'm like...
I think—you know—Pam Bondi is actually great and cash Patel are great, but they just got there, you know.
Joe: Right
Elon: So then [...] they just got there, but they're in a hostile environment. They're not in a friendly environment.
Joe: Right.
Elon: So—you know—it's like if you suddenly got put in as captain
of a ship, but the crew was previously your enemy.
Joe: Right.
Elon: The entire crew was previously your enemy. You know.
Joe: Right, and you're telling them "give me evidence".
Elon: [laughing] Yeah, the crew doesn't want to give you the evidence.
Joe: That shows you guys are all criminals.
Elon: They were like your mortal enemies just a moment ago. You just got there.
Joe: Wow.
Elon: Yeah, so I think we have got to give the attorney general and the new director of the FBI a little bit of slack here, because they literally just got there.
Joe: I think so too, but hey! Don't say you're going to release it on day one then.
Elon: Yeah, sure.
Joe: You shouldn't have said that. And don't say you got a big
drop coming tomorrow and that is some bullshit that's been around forever.
Elon: [laughing] It's disappointing.
Joe: Yeah! And where's the JFK files? Where are those? Let
'em go!
Elon: Did they release anything on that front?
Joe: I - don't - know - what's - goin' - on. It can't be anything that's gotten to me yet. So if nothing's gotten to me yet it can't be signicant.
Elon: [laughing] If there's conspiracy evidence someone's going to send it to you.
Joe: Yes. Tim Dylan's going to send it to me. 100%. Tim Dylan, Dave Smith, someone's going to send it my way.
Elon: Yeah. Someone is going to send you the stuff.
Joe: Yeah. It hasn't been released yet, yeah. You would find
out. And here's the real question: like, what could even be in there at this point that they haven't cleared out? If you've got paperwork from 1963 what is in there still? What is in there that
could possibly be incriminating that—supposedly Trump said "that if you saw what they showed me you wouldn't release
it either"? Okay, what the fuck does that mean?
Elon: I haven't seen it so...
Joe: Kash Patel has.
Elon: He has?
Joe: He said he seen it all, yeah.
Elon: Um, can he just post it to his X account or something
[both laughing]
Elon: I mean I just...
Joe: That sounds like an Elon move. I don't think he can. He's the director of the FBI. I think he has to go through proper channels.
Elon: Does he? He is the channel.
Joe: I... yeah, but there's rules.
[Elon laughs]
Joe: [talking to Jamey] He sounds like Trump. He needs an executive order.
Elon: "What about the storm." "I am the storm."
[both laugh]
Elon: I mean what channels? He is the channel.
Joe: Well—again—imagine just getting to the the hull or just getting to the deck of the ship and you're the captain, and now you have to figure out who's running things who's doing this; where is everything.
Elon: Yeah.
Joe: Yeah.
Elon: Just getting anything done—like—just like you said. You just joined as Captain of a ship where the crew hates your guts.
Joe: Yeah, they were your enemy
Elon: Yeah, they were your enemy, they're strongly opposed to anything you want to do, and you're trying to give them orders.
Joe: And you're trying to expose them.
Elon: Yeah, they don't want to be exposed.
Joe: Right. Literally people that are working there probably are a part of this problem.
Elon: I mean, I was reading on X that Comey's daughter is the lead prosecutor in the southern district of New York. Did you read that?
Joe: Yes.
Elon: So obviously there's a bit of an entanglement there.
Joe: A little bit.
Elon: What if there's something that—you know—puts her dad in a bad light?
Joe: [makes paper shredder noises]
Elon: [laughing] Exactly.
Joe: [laughing] Use the fucking shredder. Hit that delete button.
Elon: [laughing] Use the shredder. Putting in overtime.
Joe: You know, did you see General Flynn—he was on a podcast—and he he spoke directly to James Comey.
Elon: Yeah
Joe: He said "Jim, you're going to jail"; "unless you give up someone deeper than you and you know who that is"; "you know who I'm talking about". Like, that is wild.
Elon: Yeah.
Joe: Do you think that the former director of the FBI might be
really in that kind of deep shit and he really actually was doing some evil corrupt shit; while he was running the FBI?
Elon: I mean, it seems like there's some very shady stuff that's been going on.
Joe: It seems like it definitely happened in the 60s, right? Everybody kind of admits to that. They admit the FBI killed Black Panthers. They, they did a lot of shit. There's a lot of stuff that went on, that we know the government did way back in the day.
Elon: Yeah, why don't we just data dump the files? Just like go in
there take photos of of all the papers—presumably paper—and just post it online. And let the chips fall where they may.
Joe: Isn't presumably everyone of the files...
Elon: In like some like filing cabinet somewhere. I don't know.
Joe: Right. Where is it?
Elon: Where's the magic filing cabinet?
Joe: How are they hiding it? Who's got access to it? Like, this, this is what I was hoping: "Day One:". I was hoping... but obviously it's taking a lot longer than that. So...
Elon: I, I think part of it is, like, you know, like, let's say you were made direct to the FBI.
Joe: Okay.
Elon: [laughs]
Joe: I might be able to. That's what crazy. What's Dan Bongino—what's he doing now? He's one of the big dogs of the FBI.
[crosstalk]
Joe: He is Secret Service guy. Legit guy, but people think of him as a Fox News guy. Just like Pete Hegseth. They don't want to think about his distinguished military career. They want to say "oh that Fox News guy".
Jamey (assistant): Deputy director.
Joe: Deputy director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Elon: Yeah, I mean, Dan's hardcore. I mean... if it's reasonably findable I think he's going to find it. Between him and
Kash, I mean... I think they're going to get stuff
Joe: How crazy would it be if they couldn't though. How crazy would it be if they can't find anything. If everybody shuts their mouth and everybody covers their ass.
Elon: Is there like an FBI computer where you type in the
search?
Joe: [laughs]
Elon: ...just like the basic mechanism here. Like, it's either in a
filing cabinet in paper where, you know, there's, like, progressive levels of security.
Joe: Yeah.
Elon: [pantomiming] Open this drawer. Oh! You got to
have—do you have the pass for this level? You like... level unlocked... and there's a level unlocked... and it's like...
Joe: You in get there. There's a black Acer laptop.
[both laugh]
Elon: Yeah.