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I love how lefttards are like "THE WORLD WILL NEVER FORGIVE US FOR THIS!!"

The world does not care about Ukraine. Europe does. And despite how they want you to believe, Europe is not the world.

Which is why we must immediately abandon Europe to the wolves, if not outright destroy them ourselves. It is a threat and an affront to everything American.
I don’t believe for a second the major EU allies want to throw their soldiers into the Ukraine meat grinder. Now they just get to blame Trump and Orban (Hungary) for having their hands tied and only being able to send weapons and money to Ukraine.

They can prove me wrong with their actions. The only difference if Kamala Harris was President is that we’d continue burning money for Ukraine.
 
Even Elon Musk, who dresses like a slob who gets his clothes at Goodwill, has the good sense to pull on a rumpled sports jacket when he goes to the White House. He may have forgotten to return the loaner suit coat from some steakhouse 10 years ago, but he's polite enough to wear it while in Trump's presence. Unlike Zelenskyyy.
still pissed Elon doesn't go full cowboy, him in a duster and a cowboy hat and the rest of the get up. for an autist he doesn't really understand presentation as well as say Kanye West. I'm still in awe of Michael Jackson showing up to the HWBUSH white house dressed like an edgey superhero.
but the comments everywhere else seem to be siding with him and outraged about Trump's behaviour. Im really not getting it.
its a "bitch eating crackers" moment, this is the first major outburst from trump in like half a year and those always get people riled up.
. Wild that a guy knows this and bites the hand that feeds him
its the scorpion and the frog, although its more like scorpion and the alligator
At the end of the day, all of this is just clothing autism for nerds to debate and nitpick about. But these garments used to symbolize a classic, golden age of America that no longer exists, and likewise, they either no longer exist or are on life support. If you truly care about supporting American industry and bringing back the American golden age, it’s worth thinking about where the uniform for that era went and how it can be brought back.
this is all very recent too, FFS one of the most iconic brands of the 2000s was literally named American Apparel. the owner of that company was like an old school businessman too, paid his immigrant employees hilariously well and was also a rapist. Like a dozen years ago Brooks Brothers was still quality. George Zimmer was also running his company and keeping it from being fucked over too.

I still 100% believe George Zimmer got pushed out because niggers are too stupid to know that he isn't George Zimmerman and it was effecting business.
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Watching Trump show Volodymyr the new order is very funny.

I have enjoyed reading the posts here about why we never see Ukrainians fly American flags.

For many years, the whole world loves to accept US dollars and take our help whenever possible, while also jeering at us and talking about how terrible we are, how our people are fat and loud and boorish and shouldn't even wear our national emblems while traveling. Europe has treated the US like a trust fund parent gets treated by an ungrateful child, certain that it is entitled to continued beneficence while being able to be as harsh and condemnatory as they feel like toward our people, our institutions, our leadership, and our national ideals.

It's my opinion that the US accepting this treatment on a national scale has led directly to a huge amount of the liberal white guilt/endless gibs attitude. Since childhood, Americans are subtly told that it's just normal and how the world is for the US to subsidize the military and industrial and social capacities of all these countries (for instance, making it possible for them to have the exact kind of single-payer healthcare system they mock us for not having), and how it's normal for everyone to mock us and make us the butt of their jokes because we're actually so terrible and uncultured and retarded.

I have high hopes that this backbone we're showing will stiffen the resolve of individual Americans not to accept the typical global bullshit of whining about how terrible American culture and people are while acting like they have a "human right" to continued subsidies from my tax dollars.
 
Even Elon Musk, who dresses like a slob who gets his clothes at Goodwill, has the good sense to pull on a rumpled sports jacket when he goes to the White House. He may have forgotten to return the loaner suit coat from some steakhouse 10 years ago, but he's polite enough to wear it while in Trump's presence. Unlike Zelenskyyy.
Applebee's. He got the suit coat from Applebee's.
 

Both Elon and Rogan saying phasing this is bs and the release clusterfuck is stupid.
I still have many pages of the thread to catch up on.

I clipped a relivent part of Joe Rogan and Elon Musk talking about the Epstein files:


Joe: So what's taken so long with these Epstein files.

Elon: Yeah what's up with that?

Joe: What is up with that? It's like Lucy and the football with Charlie Brown when she always pulls that football away. It's the same thing. It's like they keep telling us they're going to release it. Day one. Oh day one.

Elon: We have a serious case of no one's being arrested or a phobia, you know.

Joe: Right.

Elon: Like what the fuck is going on?

Joe: What the fuck is going on. Also there's this real fear that someone's destroying the evidence, and you keep hearing these stories, unsubstantiated stories, of—you know—FBI people.

Elon: Where the evidence? I mean the guy had like tons of videos and recordings. I mean he had all sorts of things. Like there's a mountain of evidence. So where's that mountain?

Joe: Yeah, where is that mountain? And what would be the reason why they would agree... like, there would have to be
something in it for them to agree to not put it out, Right?
Like, there has to be some sort of financial entanglement; some sort of relationship with the people that are on that list; that they can provide a value; that was big enough for you to not release it; or to slow relase it; or to hope you can get away with, like, putting out some redacted files that don't show anything.

Elon: redacted, redacted, redacted

Joe: "This is only stage one. Don't worry. The real stuff's coming." That doesn't make any sense. Why wouldn't you just release it all. What could possibly be worth protecting in there?

Elon: Well, I mean, I think I've got probably the same information that... I mean I'm just reading what's the latest thing on X. You know, I'm just looking at my X feed. And I'm like, yeah. You know.
[sarcastic] It's a real page turner. [/sarcastic]
And, like I thought we were going to get some revelations today. It was like big binders full of stuff there's got to be something in there.

Joe: Well there was all those people that were given a copy of it. They were all waving it around like they got the Willy Wonka ticket.

Elon: Yeah, yeah, totally.

Joe: Yeah, and what happened? Nothing.
I think Laura Loomer released it online.

Jamey (assistant): yeah she's not very pleased about this.

Joe: So does anybody find anything in there that's interesting?

Jamey (assistant): no it's all old stuff from 2015.

Joe: What the fuck is going on?

Elon: Apparently they "discovered" a whole bunch of stuff at the southern district of New York.

Joe: Right.

Elon: So... that's... and and and... I'm like and I'm like...
I think—you know—Pam Bondi is actually great and cash Patel are great, but they just got there, you know.

Joe: Right

Elon: So then [...] they just got there, but they're in a hostile environment. They're not in a friendly environment.

Joe: Right.

Elon: So—you know—it's like if you suddenly got put in as captain
of a ship, but the crew was previously your enemy.

Joe: Right.

Elon: The entire crew was previously your enemy. You know.

Joe: Right, and you're telling them "give me evidence".

Elon: [laughing] Yeah, the crew doesn't want to give you the evidence.

Joe: That shows you guys are all criminals.

Elon: They were like your mortal enemies just a moment ago. You just got there.

Joe: Wow.

Elon: Yeah, so I think we have got to give the attorney general and the new director of the FBI a little bit of slack here, because they literally just got there.

Joe: I think so too, but hey! Don't say you're going to release it on day one then.

Elon: Yeah, sure.

Joe: You shouldn't have said that. And don't say you got a big
drop coming tomorrow and that is some bullshit that's been around forever.

Elon: [laughing] It's disappointing.

Joe: Yeah! And where's the JFK files? Where are those? Let
'em go!

Elon: Did they release anything on that front?

Joe: I - don't - know - what's - goin' - on. It can't be anything that's gotten to me yet. So if nothing's gotten to me yet it can't be signicant.

Elon: [laughing] If there's conspiracy evidence someone's going to send it to you.

Joe: Yes. Tim Dylan's going to send it to me. 100%. Tim Dylan, Dave Smith, someone's going to send it my way.

Elon: Yeah. Someone is going to send you the stuff.

Joe: Yeah. It hasn't been released yet, yeah. You would find
out. And here's the real question: like, what could even be in there at this point that they haven't cleared out? If you've got paperwork from 1963 what is in there still? What is in there that
could possibly be incriminating that—supposedly Trump said "that if you saw what they showed me you wouldn't release
it either"? Okay, what the fuck does that mean?

Elon: I haven't seen it so...

Joe: Kash Patel has.

Elon: He has?

Joe: He said he seen it all, yeah.

Elon: Um, can he just post it to his X account or something

[both laughing]

Elon: I mean I just...

Joe: That sounds like an Elon move. I don't think he can. He's the director of the FBI. I think he has to go through proper channels.

Elon: Does he? He is the channel.

Joe: I... yeah, but there's rules.

[Elon laughs]

Joe: [talking to Jamey] He sounds like Trump. He needs an executive order.

Elon: "What about the storm." "I am the storm."

[both laugh]

Elon: I mean what channels? He is the channel.

Joe: Well—again—imagine just getting to the the hull or just getting to the deck of the ship and you're the captain, and now you have to figure out who's running things who's doing this; where is everything.

Elon: Yeah.

Joe: Yeah.

Elon: Just getting anything done—like—just like you said. You just joined as Captain of a ship where the crew hates your guts.

Joe: Yeah, they were your enemy

Elon: Yeah, they were your enemy, they're strongly opposed to anything you want to do, and you're trying to give them orders.

Joe: And you're trying to expose them.

Elon: Yeah, they don't want to be exposed.

Joe: Right. Literally people that are working there probably are a part of this problem.

Elon: I mean, I was reading on X that Comey's daughter is the lead prosecutor in the southern district of New York. Did you read that?

Joe: Yes.

Elon: So obviously there's a bit of an entanglement there.

Joe: A little bit.

Elon: What if there's something that—you know—puts her dad in a bad light?

Joe: [makes paper shredder noises]

Elon: [laughing] Exactly.

Joe: [laughing] Use the fucking shredder. Hit that delete button.

Elon: [laughing] Use the shredder. Putting in overtime.

Joe: You know, did you see General Flynn—he was on a podcast—and he he spoke directly to James Comey.

Elon: Yeah

Joe: He said "Jim, you're going to jail"; "unless you give up someone deeper than you and you know who that is"; "you know who I'm talking about". Like, that is wild.

Elon: Yeah.

Joe: Do you think that the former director of the FBI might be
really in that kind of deep shit and he really actually was doing some evil corrupt shit; while he was running the FBI?

Elon: I mean, it seems like there's some very shady stuff that's been going on.

Joe: It seems like it definitely happened in the 60s, right? Everybody kind of admits to that. They admit the FBI killed Black Panthers. They, they did a lot of shit. There's a lot of stuff that went on, that we know the government did way back in the day.

Elon: Yeah, why don't we just data dump the files? Just like go in
there take photos of of all the papers—presumably paper—and just post it online. And let the chips fall where they may.

Joe: Isn't presumably everyone of the files...

Elon: In like some like filing cabinet somewhere. I don't know.

Joe: Right. Where is it?

Elon: Where's the magic filing cabinet?

Joe: How are they hiding it? Who's got access to it? Like, this, this is what I was hoping: "Day One:". I was hoping... but obviously it's taking a lot longer than that. So...

Elon: I, I think part of it is, like, you know, like, let's say you were made direct to the FBI.

Joe: Okay.

Elon: [laughs]

Joe: I might be able to. That's what crazy. What's Dan Bongino—what's he doing now? He's one of the big dogs of the FBI.

[crosstalk]

Joe: He is Secret Service guy. Legit guy, but people think of him as a Fox News guy. Just like Pete Hegseth. They don't want to think about his distinguished military career. They want to say "oh that Fox News guy".

Jamey (assistant): Deputy director.

Joe: Deputy director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Elon: Yeah, I mean, Dan's hardcore. I mean... if it's reasonably findable I think he's going to find it. Between him and
Kash, I mean... I think they're going to get stuff

Joe: How crazy would it be if they couldn't though. How crazy would it be if they can't find anything. If everybody shuts their mouth and everybody covers their ass.

Elon: Is there like an FBI computer where you type in the
search?

Joe: [laughs]

Elon: ...just like the basic mechanism here. Like, it's either in a
filing cabinet in paper where, you know, there's, like, progressive levels of security.

Joe: Yeah.

Elon: [pantomiming] Open this drawer. Oh! You got to
have—do you have the pass for this level? You like... level unlocked... and there's a level unlocked... and it's like...

Joe: You in get there. There's a black Acer laptop.

[both laugh]

Elon: Yeah.
Meme of "Lucy with a football" that's posted around:
Epstein list - Charlie Brown.jpg
 
And he could rock the boring black and blue suits politicians only seem to wear now:
The conservative fine worsted *charcoal (black business suits are verboten) and navy suits you see in the White House and in courthouses are and have been standard Western business attire for the last 100 odd years. On the other hand, the various casual suits and sport coats you see Reagan wearing are more akin to tailored casualwear; they use lighter colors, bolder patterns, rougher and more relaxed fabrics.

You don’t see presidents (or very many men in general) wearing casual tailoring anymore because men don’t really wear tailoring anymore unless they have to, which means only when they have a court date or a business meeting, and that means dark, formal colors and fine, shiny, worsted fabrics. If you want to see less of that and more of what Reagan is wearing (tweeds, checks, cotton and linen suits), wear more casual tailoring, even if it’s just for a night out or a similarly casual outing.
 
being honest, i don't think it's as funny as elon thinks it is. he's part of this group, he should use some of his weight to push for it, gain some more positive points with everyone.
you gotta laugh or you gotta cry
but yeah Pam's looking increasingly whoops and more oh yeah
should have gone for the dude who was proudly rocking his rentboy with nothing to hide
 
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