Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

With what? With who? Abdul isn't fighting for the EU lmao
Not even would Abdul laugh right in their Globohomo faces, if they’d suggest he’d fight for “our democracy”, Europe also lacks the industrial capacity to militarize.

Shit, they can’t even throw billions of Euros at a militarization, since most of them have big debts and massive welfare/pension expenses.

And they can’t just shut those down, since most European countries have populist parties who’d ride that wave of discontent right into the government and that’s the last thing the Wuropean elites want.
 
Invasion Update - 28 February 2024 - 1101 days since the start of the Invasion on 24 February 2022

Russia crosses border to cut Ukraine off in the Kursk salient​

Border of Kursk Oblast, Russia and Sumy Oblast, Ukraine

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As of February-March 2025, the Kursk Salient and Pokrovsk are Ukraine's two heaviest-reinforced positions in the war. With the former, the largest settlement that Ukraine has captured is Sudzha, which is most likely their base of operations. Ukraine needs the Kursk salient for as long as possible for negotiating power in the table if peace were to come between Russia and Ukraine, which of course, is impossible at the moment.

Nevertheless, Ukraine's grip on the Kursk Salient is weakening and Russia is exploiting cracks within these positions to fully recapture all territory seized by Ukraine in Kursk Oblast. On 14 February 2025, Russian troops launched assaults toward the Russo-Ukrainian border west of Sudzha in the settlements of Nikolaev-Dar'ino and Dar'ino. Russia would capture the settlement of Sverdlikovo and then successfully reach and secured the border west of Sverdlikovo.

Russian troops soon launched incursions into Ukraine to cut the routes from the north, reaching the settlement of Basivka (Basovka). Ukraine has sent units to counter them and the resulting battles has turned this area into a grey zone. Through drones, Russia would harass Ukrainian armor and supplies coming into the salient through the two main supply routes.

Meanwhile, southeast of Sudzha, Russian forces captured Fanaseevka and are approaching Cherkasskaya Konopel'ka.


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Russian troops soon launched a multi-directional assault:
  • South of Sudzha, Russian troops entered Cherkasskaya Konopel'ka and captured most of the settlement. In addition, Russian troops are clearing Kurilovka following Ukrainian withdrawal.
  • North of Sudzha, Russian forces recaptured Pogrevki, Orlovka, and Novaya Sorochina, clearing a mini-salient of any Ukrainian presence.
  • Northwest of Sudzha, Russian troops blitz'ed their way towards Nikol'skii in an attempt to cut off Malaya Loknya from the south. This position is risky as the only way to supply this position is through open fields.
  • West of Sudzha, Russia has assaulted and captured Lebedevka due to Ukraine unable to supply the garrison at this settlement. With the capture of Lebedevka, Russia has ATGM range of one of the supply routes, of which they can finish off Ukrainian vehicles struck by UAVs.
  • Russian forces secured a series of positions at Novenke (Noven'koye) forest across the Russo-Ukrainian border from Sverdlikovo.

Russia botches full capture of Toretsk, leading to successful Ukrainian counterattacks​

Toretsk, 20 km northwest of Horlivka (Gorlovka), Donetsk People's Republic

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On 19 February 2025, Russia pre-maturely announced the capture of the large settlement of Toretsk. Although 99% of the settlement is under Russian control, Ukraine still controls the city's outskirts and the terrikon in the north (the latter why Russia never actually fully controlled the city). Due to this announcement, Russia relocated most of its forces inside Toretsk to other fronts while Ukrainian forces are still on the borders on the settlement. Thus, Russian control over Toretsk was never consolidated.

On the same day as this announcement, Ukrainian forces mounted a counterattack in the western suburb of Shcherbynivka (Shcherbinovka), which foreshadows the upcoming failure for the Russian command.

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With the Russian garrison in Toretsk now low on manpower with Russian control never consolidated over Toretsk, Ukraine launched numerous infiltration attacks into the city from multiple directions. Finally, on 27 February 2025, Ukraine seized a significant part of Toretsk, recapturing the Fomikha terrikon and half of the Fomikha District, parts of the Khimkolonka district, and the outskirts of the 12th district.

Russia has since realized the graveness of its error and has since redeployed its forces back into Toretsk, recapturing several positions inside the city. Nevertheless, Ukraine's success in Toretsk is a serious failure for the Russian command, as Russia could bog itself for a longer duration in Toretsk as recapture of these city blocks could take weeks to months to recapture.

With barely any manpower, Ukrainian positions fall to Russia north of Velyka Novosilka​

Velyka Novosilka (Velikaya Novosolka/Novosyolka), 80 km west of Donetsk, Donetsk People's Republic

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Following the capture of Velyka Novosilka on 25 January 2025, Russian forces took a week-long break before restarting its offensive northwards on 1 February 2025. Due to little manpower defending this region, Ukraine has abandoned numerous positions to Russia, allowing Russia to seize territory north and west of Velyka Novosilka, including the settlement of Novosilka (Novosolka/Novosyolka) and Novoocheretuvate (Novotshchevatoye).


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Russian troops continued seizing multiple Ukrainian positions northwest of Velyka Novosilka due to Ukraine being low on manpower in this front. Russian troops soon captured the settlements of Pry'vilne (Privol'noye), and Burlats'ke (Burlatskoye) and entered the settlement of Skudne (Skudnoye).




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So this is the thing actually, having an armed force made of primarily Arab immigrants actually would be a smart move if the eu’s goal is to oppress the native European population. Putting refugees in power means they would have complete loyalty I would assume and would follow the globohomo elites in lockstep.
The problem is that they feel no loyalty to those so-called leaders, and EU leaders are so weak that the Arabs would immediately, and successfully, stage a coup.
 
I'm going to swim against the tide here: this is not the outcome that Moscow actually wanted.

Give me all the stickers that you want, but the way I see it, Russia wanted one of two things from the American/Ukrainian process. First, they wanted a Ukrainian counterpart that would could be induced by the DC to sign an armistice similar to that put forward in Istanbul, albeit much more punitive. Preferably, that would also include a Europe that was also willing to suspend hostilities and come to some form of modus vivendi with the Russian Federation.

If Zelensky couldn't be induced to come to an agreement, then the other favorable outcome would have been a Ukraine that is diplomatically isolated. The only way to truly end the war without the express permission of Kiev would have been to sever the connection with the European enablers. If God Emperor Trump knew what he was doing, he could have orchestrated a deafening rejection of Zelensky's stance, and sent a clear signal that the war itself is over, not just American involvement in it. If Keiv couldn't be brought to heel, then taking Brussels out of the war would be fine too.

Instead of either of these outcomes, we have a Zelensky that is apparently dead-set on fighting the war to the last bullet, the last drop of fuel, and the last beat of the heart. Not only that, but Europe appears to be rallying around the Ukrainian project, having chosen to express its newfound independence from DC by prolonging this conflict forever and a day. Honestly, it's very easy to imagine large sums of Euros being spent on some kind of postwar, antiRussian insurgency.

I see no realistic prospect for a negotiated settlement, which probably means that we should start planning for the eventual Syria-style collapse of the Ukrainian state. This outcome would be very satisfying for Z posters, but I don't think that Putin ever wanted anything like it.
 
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I can't tell if this is NATO panicking or finally coming to their senses. Maybe both, probably not.
Or just Rutte being indecisive. Didn't he spend like 2 years in the Netherlands failing to form a government?
The only way to truly end the war without the express permission of Kiev would have been to sever the connection with the European enablers. If God Emperor Trump knew what he was doing, he could have orchestrated a deafening rejection of Zelensky's stance, and sent a clear signal that the war itself is over, not just American involvement in it.
Not workable. The Eurocracy is vehemently opposed to Trump, not just his political positions, but the fact of him as the avatar of the Great Unwashed that they see it as their duty to manage, not represent.

"Never give an order you know won't be obeyed" is leadership 101, and if Trump had tried to declare the war over they would have gone even fuller retard in backing Zelensky specifically for the satisfaction of showing up the Orange Man on the world stage.

Whatever. They've made their bed, now they can go get fucked in it.
 
So this is the thing actually, having an armed force made of primarily Arab immigrants actually would be a smart move if the eu’s goal is to oppress the native European population. Putting refugees in power means they would have complete loyalty I would assume and would follow the globohomo elites in lockstep.

We've seen from the very selfsame Arab countries the results of having a corps of armed foreigners as your elite force, it works for about 20-30 years and then they execute the entire ruling class and replace them.
 
I will say that US completely pulling support gives the eu an excuse to completely militarize, and for the poor fuckers living in Europe, have fun with that. Now any chance of creating any sort of conservative government in Europe will be impossible because they would now have the teeth to crack down on it. So have fun being arrested for tweets and having your women raped by Abdul Muhammad from Syria.

The EU cant militarize. there is money, no industrial capacity, no willing people to volunteer, no structure, no nothing. They can talk the talk but they cant walk the walk. the euromadmen still think and hope the deep state can retake control, because they have no plan b.

I'm going to swim against the tide here: this is not the outcome that Moscow actually wanted.

Give me all the stickers that you want, but the way I see it, Russia wanted one of two things from the American/Ukrainian process. First, they wanted a Ukrainian counterpart that would could be induced by the DC to sign an armistice similar to that put forward in Istanbul, albeit much more punitive. Preferably, that would also include a Europe that was also willing to suspend hostilities and come to some form of modus vivendi with the Russian Federation.
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I think russia does not care at this stage. they already working on a worst case scenario. they have been cheated and lied to for decades and now they are going their way.
today (or was yesterday) the ukrops attacked another pipeline that supplies europe. so we are in the absurd situation where european leaders are getting behind ukraine and swearing forever support to the green goblin, while ukraine is attacking their vital infrastructure. you really cant make this shit up.
one thing must be made clear. the european leaders are a bunch of psychos hell bent into destroying the continent. the absurdity of their statement of support to the coke addict speak volumes on how bad the situation is.
i might be directly affected by it, but i really cant wait to see the european madmen being curb stomped.
 
Didn't he up until days ago go on and on about how no one needs the US and the future of NATO is Europe? Now is your chance. Go for it.
You are wrong he said the opposite but Mark Rutte is a typical bureaucrat that towes the 'middle' line in terms of politics, if the left gets popular he will be a faggot, if the right gets popular he will be a freedom loving businessman.

Also Mark Rutte mismanaged the Dutch military under his 14 years of prime minister rule. The Dutch armed forces is a place to get welfare and good pensions. It is very common that before retirement an officer (well-connected ones) would get promoted super fast through the ranks and retire as generals. It has gotten so bad that 11% of Dutch defense budget goes to pensions alone and 41% to salaries, thus 52% of Dutch defense spending goes to pensions and salaries. Furthermore, the Netherlands has 74.000 troops but also 102 generals (725 soldiers per general), meanwhile the US has 1.300.000 active troops and only 219 Army generals (5936 soldiers per general). It is a common joke that Dutch soldiers still use brooms to practice and this still hasn't chanced since WW1. Fun fact, between 1914 and 1918, Dutch troops used Napoleonic cannons to drill troops and had to shout "Boom" when 'firing' guns.
 
but Europe appears to be rallying around the Ukrainian project, having chosen to express its newfound independence from DC by prolonging this conflict forever and a day.
This was always the case, nothing new here. "Europe" (the EU) and the UK want to egg it on while avoiding getting dirty themselves. Before yesterday they were still talking big and tough about how there must be security guarantees with the US.
Peace will come when material support dries up.
 
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So this is the thing actually, having an armed force made of primarily Arab immigrants actually would be a smart move if the eu’s goal is to oppress the native European population.
Your logic might be sound, if not for the "Arab" part. Arab armies never work long term. They need strong top down command and control to micromanage them and commanders at the local level to beat them with sticks to get anything done. With out that they fall apart.
 
With out that they fall apart.
Agreed.
Look how quickly the American trained Afghan army gave up, once the Taliban rolled up in their Hiluxes. Besides, aren't these people supposed to be refugees from war torn nations? I doubt they want to go back to fight on any front, if they could just squat in some European hotel, do drugs, rape and stab locals, on the taxpayer's dime. They might work as press gang though, if the wise EU leaders choose to sacrifice the remaining white population of their countries.
 
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