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Having any government paperwork in anything but English should be a crime. If you can't even learn English when immigrating to the United States, that probably means you don't give a shit about a whole list of other things.
It will be a great filter to weed out the dirty immigrants who do not give a shit to assimilate from ones who do.
 
Also Lost had a blueprint (the time travel shit WAS planned); the chief issues with Lost always was A. ABC being ABC and the threat of cancellation always over their head and the fact that they had to seriously stall the story due to the 22-25 episode season orders of S1-3 which led to them requesting LESS episodes and a guaranteed pay or play deal where they got the last three seasons guaranteed no matter what to let them finish the story without cancellation and needing to pad the story via filler holding them back

That is what damon lindelof and carlton cuse have said. But its very questionable if its true. Neither have ever been trustworthy in terms of their accounts of what happened and what was planned. Season 3 was plagued with declining viewership rates and audience fatigue.

By the later parts of season 3, the ratings had fallen by about half of what they were in season 2;. Massive budget cuts were necessary to continue the show and it was decided to cut the number of episodes to retain the quality of the show but still right-size the budget to the much diminished audience for the show. They were kind of telling the truth, but not really telling the truth. So rather than tell the truth of a show in decline and budget cuts, they told a story about how they were trying to make a better show for the fans.

I dont think before the end of season 3 that the show ever had a plan of where it was going. The individual seasons had been planned, but no more than that. It was a typical JJ Abrams mystery box show and the thing about his mystery boxes is that they inevitably turn out to be empty.

Also, alot of the good ideas in the early seasons came from Jack Bender. The later seasons (4-6) are more the "pure" ideas of damon lindelof and carlton cuse.
 
"Why are you wearing a table clothe on your head? Why do you have a mustache? Muhammad said having a stache was haram?"


Even if Europe increases their defense spending to 5%, most of it goes to paying for entitlements, salary and foreign aid anyway. They need to make it based on number of soldiers in active duty, amount of equipment purchased and/or produced per GDP.
what soldiers? german soy zoomers? syrians and ukrainians?

being militaristic has been completely bred out of germany (and lot of europe) out of fear there will be another funny moustache man, no amount of money can fix that.
however that was done on purpose, so as much as burgers like to kvetch about yurop, they only have themselves (and their long-nosed friends) to blame.
 
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We actually talked about this in my class and there are a lot of disadvantages to making English the official language. It means it has to be regulated which, as can be seen in France, can be crazy. While the US English regulating body probably wouldn't be as insane as the French one where they try and force people to use completely French words instead of loanwords, it still opens up a can of worms of having to define standard English. Which also gives the Democrats the opportunity to do it if they take power.

Still, without declaring English as the official language of the US, there are much more useful and effective things Trump could have done:
1.) Requiring certain levels of English proficiency in order to apply for any kind of immigration related thing
2.) Not allowing any language other than English on any voting ballots (I cannot tell you how disheartening it is seeing my ballot be half in English and half in Spanish with each language taking up equal space)
3.) Putting the cost of the burden of translation on the person requiring translation like in the courtroom or whatever
 
That is what damon lindelof and carlton cuse have said. But its very questionable if its true. Neither have ever been trustworthy in terms of their accounts of what happened and what was planned. Season 3 was plagued with declining viewership rates and audience fatigue.

By the later parts of season 3, the ratings had fallen by about half of what they were in season 2;. Massive budget cuts were necessary to continue the show and it was decided to cut the number of episodes to retain the quality of the show but still right-size the budget to the much diminished audience for the show. They were kind of telling the truth, but not really telling the truth. So rather than tell the truth of a show in decline and budget cuts, they told a story about how they were trying to make a better show for the fans.

I dont think before the end of season 3 that the show ever had a plan of where it was going. The individual seasons had been planned, but no more than that. It was a typical JJ Abrams mystery box show and the thing about his mystery boxes is that they inevitably turn out to be empty.

Also, alot of the good ideas in the early seasons came from Jack Bender. The later seasons (4-6) are more the "pure" ideas of damon lindelof and carlton cuse.
Off topic, but this shit happened when i was like 8 or 9.
My Dad and older sister never liked each other a lot, and today she basically pretends he's dead, the only thing that brought them together to watch on a divX dvd player with a usb stick was that show.
that shit was big here and it was curious because for the first 5-6 years it wasn't even available, not even on cable on stuff like FX.
I remember being enlisted to warn them when the ares torrent downloader would finally download some fansubbed episode that was compressed to shit to being able to be torrented in a 128kpbs internet, i remember the fuckton of blogspot fansites with cool theories and daily speculation, i remember how hurley made fat guys somehow cool for a while, how even people who had nothing to do with the show started to wear his face or the dharma logo on cheap fan made t-shirts,etc.
the only thing i ever got close to their love of the show was that lost game on 360, it was shit, but i was little and the graphics and the mystery and that fucking black smoke (that scared the fuck out of me) looked interesting.
Then i remember years later, the final season and the finale, how it ruined everything, how people complained about it for weeks, how my sister and father who were massive fucking fans, never mentioned the show, ever.

Then the same fucking staff writes season 8 of GoT and ruins everything for everyone again.
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The department of education has only existed since 1980.

Before 1980, you put men on the moon.
After 1980, you put men in dresses.

Burn it with holy fire.
This didn't really answer my question. Also people suffering with the mental disorder of gender dysphoria have existed before 1980. This problem is not going to get any better unless we improve the way we treat mental health disorders. The way we've been doing it has been utter dogshit. Especially with gender dysphoria. You don't tell Anorexics to continue to starve themselves lmao.
 
Call me a clueless retard but are they actually getting rid of the department of education? Why would they put a DEI reporting page on the website when its supposedly going to be dismantled? Why not make a separate website?

Doesn't mean much either way. It's the federal government... the left hand has no idea what the right is doing even when it is attempting to clean up.

*hits vape* man, the government would like suck at guitar, maaaannnn.
 
Also Lost had a blueprint (the time travel shit WAS planned); the chief issues with Lost always was A. ABC being ABC and the threat of cancellation always over their head and the fact that they had to seriously stall the story due to the 22-25 episode season orders of S1-3 which led to them requesting LESS episodes and a guaranteed pay or play deal where they got the last three seasons guaranteed no matter what to let them finish the story without cancellation and needing to pad the story via filler holding them back
Feel like Lost got screwed by being dragged out too long when there just wasn't that much story present. They could have cut the series in half or even by three quarters and little would have been lost.
So Zelensky is going behind Trump's back and is negotiating with Obama/Biden cronies Nuland, Blinken, Rice, and Vindman, the swamp all stars. They told Zelensky not to sign the deal and that led to the blowup.
I'm not sure there's any evidence that Zelensky wasn't going to sign the last mineral deal if that's what you mean. The deal got blown up possibly due to Trump wanting to treat it as equivalent to a security deal for the Ukrainians who instead want regular peacekeepers present to deter Russians trying to invade again even if they give up territory and have Zelensky resign or whatever else.

Lot of people are wanting to treat that as a deal breaker since it'd require Russia to allow the ceasefire to be enforced, so Russia would be dramatically less likely to agree to it.
 
It means it has to be regulated
Why?

England d'nea regulate English ye gurt twazzock. We just become comprehensible when we need to.

The only reason France has the Académie Française is, they are scared the Cathars might come back. And/or the Normans will kick off again.

Don't be French. Calling fizzy drinks "pop" is a cute colloquialism for those that do, and life is more boring if you lose it.
 
That is what damon lindelof and carlton cuse have said. But its very questionable if its true. Neither have ever been trustworthy in terms of their accounts of what happened and what was planned. Season 3 was plagued with declining viewership rates and audience fatigue.

By the later parts of season 3, the ratings had fallen by about half of what they were in season 2;. Massive budget cuts were necessary to continue the show and it was decided to cut the number of episodes to retain the quality of the show but still right-size the budget to the much diminished audience for the show. They were kind of telling the truth, but not really telling the truth. So rather than tell the truth of a show in decline and budget cuts, they told a story about how they were trying to make a better show for the fans.

I dont think before the end of season 3 that the show ever had a plan of where it was going. The individual seasons had been planned, but no more than that. It was a typical JJ Abrams mystery box show and the thing about his mystery boxes is that they inevitably turn out to be empty.

Also, alot of the good ideas in the early seasons came from Jack Bender. The later seasons (4-6) are more the "pure" ideas of damon lindelof and carlton cuse.
You got details wrong and then some.

The time travel shit was explicitly stated at SDCC around season two, though they said it jokingly because they didn't want to explicitly state "yeah, we are doing time travel shit" and spoil the plot. This is covered in detail in "The Revolution Was Televised"; a book about "Second Golden Age of TV" shows from the 00s/early 10s when they discuss Lost.

Season three's low ratings was due to Heroes stealing their thunder as the "anti-Lost" and the fact that the show runners and ABC started feuding over the creative direction and ABC fucking with the scheduling to such a degree that they got told they were going to only air SIX episodes in the Fall and then take the show off the air for three months and not bring it back until February next year, where the remaining 16 episodes would air with no skip week.

Because of this, the producers were forced to basically BURN those six episodes, since they couldn't do much since the show was going to be MIA for three months so any momentum from them would be lost due to the hiatus. They basically made this meta-textual even, with the plot line about the main characters taken prisoner by the Others stuck in zoo cages for those episodes and wasting one episode on two new characters who were killed off at the end of said episode.

As such, the gap between S3 E1-6 and 7-22 was filled with a LOT of behind the scenes fighting with the network as ABC started threatening cancellation and the show runners being livid and claiming ABC was trying to sabotage the show (which was being renewed season by season) due to it no longer being the media darling because of Heroes. In the end, the solution was to give the showrunners what they wanted: three guaranteed seasons that would air no matter what, and a reduced episode count so they could stop with the filler shit once and for all and basically put the writers on notice of "we have X-number of episodes to finish the story divided among three seasons so every episode going forward has to count". Though the exact episode count for each season got reworked by the 2008 writer strike, where they reworked the episode count so that while they were able to seemlessly cram in season 4 into the episodes they ended up with, season five got an extra episode to counterbalance it.

The one thing that DID get changed mid-series was the flashbacks being retired and replaced with flash forward timeline. This was explicitly done by the writers against their original plans for the show to center on the island, as a splashy holy shit moment to get fans talking and the media to go "LOST IS BACK BABY!!!". Which worked out, as it revitalized the show and got everyone back talking about it, while Heroes never fucking recovered from the writers strike fucking it over.
 
Call me a clueless retard but are they actually getting rid of the department of education?

Before there was a department of education, there was the department of Health, Education and Welfare. For various reasons, republicans in the 1980s had heartburn over the difference between education being a department in the government versus a sub-department. And 45 fucking years later they still care about it for some reason.

The department of education was created by law in 1979. The only way to abolish it would be by passing another law. It can't be done by executive order. Trump cannot abolish the department of education on his own.

But what Trump can do is try to terminate every employee at the department of education and assign the responsibility to spend the money congress has allocated for education in the budget to other agencies.

Trump can't abolish the department and can't refuse to spend the money in the budget allocated to education. But he turn the department of education into an empty box and de-facto abolish it by not having it do anything.
 
Why?

England d'nea regulate English ye gurt twazzock. We just become comprehensible when we need to.

The only reason France has the Académie Française is, they are scared the Cathars might come back. And/or the Normans will kick off again.

Don't be French. Calling fizzy drinks "pop" is a cute colloquialism for those that do, and life is more boring if you lose it.
The UK does have it in some sense in the British Council, a governmental organization that creates a standardized English proficiency test. The most common English proficiency test in the US is created by a private testing company where universities in the US are not required by law to accept that as proof of English proficiency.

Let's just do a thought experiment for a second: imagine that the US did have an officially government made English proficiency test. Imagine the amount of political bickering as to what should be included in it. Imagine the thousands of legal challenges that would be brought against it. Imagine a political stunt where Dems find some inbred white conservative retard and show that he can't pass the test and say he can't be American or something. Again, it's just a whole can of worms.

In an ideal world, I would love it. I would love to require a certain level of English proficiency. But it's really, really hard to design a system that won't eventually bite you in the ass in some way.
 
The UK does have it in some sense in the British Council, a governmental organization that creates a standardized English proficiency test.
Despite the lofty name, It's not a government organization, it's a charity set up to bring God's own language to the dark-skinned heathens who live under strange skies.
Which, if you've seen the fuckers line up at the border, I wish they fucking wouldn't.
English within England is taught by whichever impoverished school you wind up at, with tests written by whichever shifty bastards your school bribed the most if you want a bit of paper afterwards.
But, there is no official test for speaking English if you're actually English.
You'd kick the War of the Roses off again, except this time it would be India v Pakistan.
 
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