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Norway puts almost all of the profits from oil into a sovereign wealth fund and have been very hesitant to spend from it. They certainly do have a welfare state similar to many other European (and particularly Scandinavian) countries, but they had that before the oil and it's still funded through taxes. They tax their middle class more heavily than we tax the extremely rich who pay the vast majority of our taxes. The income tax rate is 47% and they have a 25% VAT tax which is similar to sales tax in the US. Turns out free healthcare isn't actually free.

Someone there was smart enough to realize that using all of that money would result in the population becoming dependent on it or more likely lead to Dutch disease and cause more economic problems down the road. I would not liken them to Saudi Arabia outside of having a lot of oil.
Late and gay, but it give me an in to a vaguely interesting story:


 
OK, seriously: can anyone here give me an unbiased, agenda-free quick rundown on the meeting between Zelenskyy and Trump? My entire social media is on fire from angry shitlibs crying about muh Ukraine, I'm seeing Redditards seething as usual, mainstream news sites are giving me the predictable orange man bad shtick, and Youtube is recommending me right wing grifter channels bragging about how Ukraine has been buckbroken by Trump. I don't know who to trust, and these threads are going fast. What honestly is happening?
In order for diplomacy with Russia to work, all parties have to play nice. But Zelensky refused. And secondly, he asked for US Troops in Ukraine instead of accepting an immediate ceasefire, so Trump had to throw him out.
 
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Saudi Arabia does the exact same thing.

They don't have personal income taxes, but they do have a social security payroll tax, VAT, and corporate income taxes.

A lot of Saudi citizens get useless degrees in religious studies, and Norway has a lot of perma-students majoring in various humanities fields.
their king bribes em so they won't revolt against him, as arabs like to do

thus he gets stability, and they get free money
 
Semi-breadtuber/science man Kyle Hill does a stream to raise money for...Wild dogs??? Around Chernobyl because the new-ish containment area for the reactors was hit by a Russian drone strike in February, apparently. Literally all the money is going to the CFF (a ukrainian nonprofit) for wild dogs. This particularly makes me feel weird, since obviously nobody can guarantee the money goes to actually anything useful in Ukraine, and it's not even aimed at helping people in this particular stream. It was basically just a free money for Ukraine stream.

He gets lots of very funny pro Russian trolls in chat, and he also aknowledges the strike did not damage anything beyond the roofing and there is no actual containment breach AND there is no consensus by the Ukrainian maintainers on how to fix the hole. He also says nobody knows who actually hit it, just that all signs point to Russia.
 
I really like that Trump kicked that little Jewish dickhead tinpot dictator out of the people's White House - very refreshing!

Motherfucker has murdered American journalists, blew up the Nordstream pipeline in a terrorist attack, has meddled in our elections with his SBU, and impotently demands infinity more billions of our taxpayer dollars, while we've been the only country keeping him afloat.

Trump is 100% in the right on this, Zelensky needs a radical attitude adjustment.
 
I am somewhat surprised he didn't take the opportunity to also rename "English" as "American" a la The Gulf of America.

It's a brilliant move, because like the renaming of the Gulf, firing all the useless Federal workers, cutting the wasteful spending on woke foreign aid, banning trannies from girls sports, etc, it puts the Democrats in an impossible position.

Sure, the next President can undo all this shit with Executive Orders, but the optics would look horrible. Imagine AOC or Newsom running on a platform of "If elected, I will rehire millions of Federal workers who were unfairly fired! I will restore billions in foreign aid and ensure LGBTQ rights are funded around the world with masturbation sessions, dance classes, and basket weaving clinics! I promise to expand the Federal Government and increase it's budget by trillions of dollars! If you vote for me, transgender Americans will be able to express their womanhood in women's locker rooms and playing alongside high school girls in sports--no matter how old they are! I will rename the Gulf of Mexico back for Mexico as it rightfully should be, and declare Spanish our other official language!"

It's completely horrible optics. They can do it, but spinning it in a way to get votes from anyone but their base will be Difficulty: Impossible. You love to see it!
 
Semi-breadtuber/science man Kyle Hill does a stream to raise money for...Wild dogs??? Around Chernobyl because the new-ish containment area for the reactors was hit by a Russian drone strike in February, apparently. Literally all the money is going to the CFF (a ukrainian nonprofit) for wild dogs. This particularly makes me feel weird, since obviously nobody can guarantee the money goes to actually anything useful in Ukraine, and it's not even aimed at helping people in this particular stream. It was basically just a free money for Ukraine stream.

He gets lots of very funny pro Russian trolls in chat, and he also aknowledges the strike did not damage anything beyond the roofing and there is no actual containment breach AND there is no consensus by the Ukrainian maintainers on how to fix the hole. He also says nobody knows who actually hit it, just that all signs point to Russia.

The Ukraine war regardless of whatever side you favor has been one of the greatest events of human suffering in modern history and this faggot is raising money for feral dogs.

I fucking hate dog fags sometimes…
 
Semi-breadtuber/science man Kyle Hill does a stream to raise money for...Wild dogs??? Around Chernobyl because the new-ish containment area for the reactors was hit by a Russian drone strike in February, apparently. Literally all the money is going to the CFF (a ukrainian nonprofit) for wild dogs.
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Is this constitutional?
I like the idea but I think the reason it never happened was because a lot of European immigrants at the founding spoke like 30 different languages.
It didn’t happen until now because it went without saying. When all of your founding documents and laws are written in English guess what your nation’s language is.

It’s the same reason they didn’t explicitly state that the first amendment was meant for political and religious speech and not pornography, or that the second amendment was for protection against a tyrannical government (most people would have starved to death without guns to hunt with, so it went without saying they could have guns for hunting).
 
Funny how I never saw any of these memes during Biden's reign where Israel got $17bn in 2024. Or how Israel got $14.3bn in 2023. Or $3.8bn to Israel in 2022. Or how Obama, in his final year in office, signed a decade long aid package to Israel. Weird how you don't hear anything about "Zion Obama". Man, if I was crazy, I would almost think the "Zion Don" sperging was a fucking glowop.
Shitting on America's love of Israel has been a thing since the country was founded. What the fuck are you talking about?
 
Vance doesn't like the fact the US is sending Ukraine lots of weapons and providing cash and loans. He baits Zelensky into making a dumb, poorly worded statement. Trump, who is already pissed at him, calls him out. Trump doesn't think Zelensky is willing to try to make a peace deal, kicks him out of the Whitehouse. We are now waiting to see the responses.
Vance and Trump were in a bad place with Ukraine. Half their supporters are on the boomer esque America Number 1 we are heroes brainrot (see retards like Welper) and the other half want out now.

More troubling is that most of congress including what is a plurality of Rs are on the Ukraine cock sucking thread. Faggots like Graham. Trump almost certainly agreed to try and continuing in exchange for his appointee's getting in.

So now he needs to give something to the rest of his base to convince them the money situation will get better. Graham goes the minerals angle. Problem with minerals is Europe had a designs on those. So Zelenksy fucks with that. So Trump gets big mad. So Macron and Starmer come to play nice and let Trump know they totally are dropping that line he can have minerals (they arent).

Zelensky comes and likely asked by Macron and Starmer to demand more, does so. Jd Vance and everyone knows the mineral deal is bullshit. Ukraine is a corrupt cesspole this is a game to fuck with the maga base. So he starts poking Zelensky. He knows Trump is already pissed because Zelensky was flat out told to wear a suit before Zelensky even started talking and is now breaking decorum with additional asks on live TV.

His pokes work better than expected. Zelensky uses profane language in the oval office and makes a veiled threat against the US. Trump and Vance can now tell the Rinos they made deals with that Ukraine gets fucked until Zelenksy goes and their Rino brains cant really argue after that display.

Zelenksy walked into an incredibly simple landmine set up by Vance.
 
I don't know Russian so take my comment with a grain of salt, but from what I've gathered, cyka blyatt or whatever the phrase is can also just mean "oh fuck me..." or "son of a bitch." But Zelenskyyyy is such a little kike worm that it wouldn't surprise me if it was intended as an insult.
Either way, hardly appropriate. Looking at it, though, and I only have a bit of understanding of slavic languages, I think saying "oh fuck me" or "son of a bitch" would have been cyk blyat. Almost positive it couldn't fit the "oh fuck me" because then Zelenskyy would have been referring to himself in the feminine.

Not positive, but I'd be surprised.

Regardless, showing up looking like a bum, talking over the US President and his vice-President in their 'home', and using extremely vulgar language should have gotten him booted. Not to mention trying to 'litigate' as Vance said, his views to the media when he was there to sign off on starting the process of acquiring long term US protection and ending the destruction of his country.
 
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