Plagued Nice Guys

I have a friend who's kind of bordering the incel thing, but a little bit past Nice Guy stage. I've told him about a million times that it's more than just holding doors and being polite. It's about being a person with something beyond just superficial bits and bobs. He's never said it outright, but sex is basically all he looks for since he's never had it or been in a meaningful relationship, and so he doesn't women as people but as walking sex objects.
What's unfortunate is that he knows, intellectually, that his method won't work for him in the end. I think that's the difference between despondent young adults and redpillers: that the method clearly doesn't work but redpillers want no pointers since they think they've "beat the game."
 
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ADN_VIII said:
What's unfortunate is that he knows, intellectually, that his method won't work for him in the end. I think that's the difference between despondent young adults and redpillers: that the method clearly doesn't work but redpillers want no pointers since they think they've "beat the game."
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Lol no, they only thing redpillers beat are themselves.

And in any case, I do feel a twinge of sympathy for despondent young chaps, you have to nip this behaviour in the bud early or they're completely fucked.
 
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Lorento said:
Lol no, they only thing redpillers beat are themselves.

And in any case, I do feel a twinge of sympathy for despondent young chaps, you have to nip this behaviour in the bud early or they're completely fucked.
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Dad said to me that you can't beat someone in chess if they're not playing. Redpillers strike me as crowing about a game of chess that they "won" without another player.
 
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Well, the first was kinda "acceptable" until you reach the last sentence where it should have been something like of "don't worry about being alone/single, you'll always have friends that will take care of you and cheer you up". And that's just the first time she goes back with him. If multiples instances occur, you end up not caring that much. Mostly because you understand that you can't do anything to help unless she decides to end it once and for all on her own, which is when you would feel glad she freed herself and try to help heal herself because you're his friend (they don't seem to understand that a girl can be also a person and a good friend).

The other ones are just plain self-fulfilling prophecies and grudges. Geez. Also the key to end up with anyone is first and foremost be there as a friend. An actual friend. Not a desperate virgin that just wants sex at any cost. Holy fuck, the :autism:
 
It's all major-league projection of insecurity in the end.

When Nice Guy (tm) sees a woman with a boyfriend, he's already poisoned the well that this person, this OTHER GUY, has GOT to be one of "those" kinds of men. So, any and every little thing the man does is interpreted through Nice Guy's broken social lens as bad, abusive and diabolical behavior.

He held open a car door? He's a misogynist! Does he think she can't do that herself?
He didn't open the car door? He's an asshole who knows nothing of treating his lady like a gentleman!
Did he get her something nice for her birthday? He's trying to BUY her affection!
Did he get her something simple and cheap? He doesn't care enough! I'd spend every cent I had!

And on and on it goes.. Watch sports? He's a dumb jock! Wears a ball cap? Dudebro asshole! Drives a truck? Redneck white trash!!

So it's easy to see how Nice Guy sees the world as nothing but wall-to-wall assholes and since he treats every man he sees this way, it's only "logical" that all women must want the bad boy, it's been proven to him over and over again.
 
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More winners. The last one sounds fake to me, but then again, Solid Mario exists.
 
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DrJonesHat said:
That middle one wasn't so much a Nice Guy as an MRA. Insisting women remain virgins goes back to reducing women to their reproductive role solely, and is not only sexist, it's dehumanizing.
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It also propagates this odd idea that women can't enjoy sex - if she has a sexual history, she must have been "tricked" into it. Again, because women are gullible livestock, not people.

Which makes me think there's gotta be some unresolved self hatred going on in these guys' heads because why do they think she's supposed to want sex when they do it to her?
 
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Sigh yeah.

I'm a woman, I can't show you a picture of myself for obvious reasons but if I may say so myself. I am not bad looking.
I'm Danish, so I got that classic scandinavian look plus I eat healthy and I run, so I am at a decent physical condition.
To top that off I am a giant nerd, I don't like romcoms but watch all the marvel movies as they come up, go to cons, play games. The circles I walk in are mostly male dominated, so yeah. I don't lack attention.

Oh jesus. I have met guys, met these guys where I know with a hundred percent certainity. They would go to the end of the world for me. They would gone through fire and water if I let them.
I know I sound all self absorbed and narcisistic now, but it's true! If I had asked some of these guys to jump off a building for me... they might would have done it :/

And that is a MAJOR turn off for me, I just can't deal with that. I don't want a servant I want a partner in crime as I say.

Those guys, whom feel like I am the answer to their happiness and then rely everything on what I feel or do... And they would do anything I suggest... ufff. brrr.

And they are so sweet and innocent, their intentions are clearly very pure. I just have to turn them down, and not trying to be easy about it just, be straight and firm. "No. No buddie, not happening."

It always sucks because I know I am making these actually really nice people very upset, and I hate making people upset. But well, keeping them hanging and hoping wont do them any favours, at least I don't think so. So whenever one of those guys pop up, I make it very clear as fast as possible. "No, i'm not interested."

But yeah, I need a man with a mind of his own! I need a partner in crime to work with, I need someone whom also have his own life, I need someone whom can in fact challenge me.
I need a strong independent man...

Then of course I also tried to meet men whom got fucking furious with me because I didn't respond to their initial advances.
A guy found out I am a movie buff, started to talk about what he knew about movies clearly trying to hit on me, I corrected him in his statement and he got PISSED!

Of course this is only one guy, he is an individual and in no way reflect all men, 90 percent of all men I have ever met are the nicest people ever.
There are men whom sucks, there are men whom are great, there are women whom sucks and there are woman whom are great :)
 
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The idea that women don't enjoy sex is a myth that goes back to the Victorian era. Actual research shows they enjoy it as much if not more than men.
Also, nice powerlevel there @Bombshell. Tell us more about how awesome you are.

I may have an actual Nice Guy situation on my hands folks. I just heard from a friend who needs some advice in repelling the advances of a sentient fedora. I'll report back if anything thread worthy occurs.
 
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DrJonesHat said:
The idea that women don't enjoy sex is a myth that goes back to the Victorian era. Actual research shows they enjoy it as much if not more than men.
Also, nice powerlevel there @Bombshell. Tell us more about how awesome you are.

I may have an actual Nice Guy situation on my hands folks. I just heard from a friend who needs some advice in repelling the advances of a sentient fedora. I'll report back if anything thread worthy occurs.
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Powerlevel? What does that mean I got a powerlevel?

I hope you're not being ironic with me, I just can't tell right now. I can see those two above weren't exactly crazy with my post. But you know, i'll try not to bite. If I couldn't take a bit of salt I shouldn't have made a profil at the Kiwi farms of all places lol XD.

But yeah I am awesome, super awesome in fact. My blood is made of metal music and I survive solely on the tears of my enemies. True story.

Oh and DrJonesHat.

Tell your friend she just needs to say "No." clear and loudly.

Don't try to let him down easy, that is an impossible feed unfortunately, and will only drag out the suffering for way to long. Make it firm and clear, cut him off clean.

Like ripping off a plaster. It sucks, no one wants to make other people upset, but it's the only way.
 
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Bombshell said:
Oh and DrJonesHat.

Tell your friend she just needs to say "No." clear and loudly.

Don't try to let him down easy, that is an impossible feed unfortunately, and will only drag out the suffering for way to long. Make it firm and clear, cut him off clean.

Like ripping off a plaster. It sucks, no one wants to make other people upset, but it's the only way.
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Powerleveling is revealing things about yourself that are best kept to yourself. You realize you're going to get creepy PMs from every basement-dwelling autist on the site now right? Just warning you.

And I did tell her to tell him to fuck off, but Nice Guy is convinced that her boyfriend is abusing her (he's not, in fact he's a saint) and keeps trying to "rescue" her from a non-existent abusive relationship. It would be funny if he wasn't telling everyone that the bf is abusive. I told her to threaten a slander lawsuit, and to get a restraining order. I'm worried he's going to assault the boyfriend. I told them both to get ROs. It remains to be seen how he takes that.

EDIT: @Bombshell quit while you're ahead.
 
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