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An interesting opinion piece published by the DC rag of repute, The Hill. They occasionally publish an opinion piece that makes sense.

Democrats go full McCarthy with attacks on Musk’s nationality, loyalties (archive).
This month, 75 years ago, Sen. Joe McCarthy (R-Wisc.) gave his infamous speech denouncing disloyal Americans working at the highest levels of our government. It was the defining moment for what became known as McCarthyism, which attacked citizens as dangerous and disloyal influences in government.

Some of us have criticized the rising “rage rhetoric” for years, including that of President Trump and Democratic leaders, denouncing opponents as traitors and enemies of the state.

In the 2024 election, the traditional red state-blue state firewalls again collapsed, as they had in 2016. The response among Democrats has been to unleash a type of new Red Scare, questioning the loyalty of those who are supporting or working with the Trump administration in carrying out his promised reforms.

Elon Musk is the designated disloyal American for many on the left. That rage has reached virtual hysteria on ABC’s “The View.” This is the same show before the election on which hosts warned that, if Trump were elected, journalists and homosexuals would be rounded up and “disappeared.”

After the election, democracy seemed to stubbornly hang on, so the hosts had to resort to attacking as disloyal anyone joining the government or supporting Trump’s policies.

This week, co-host Joy Behar followed many others in questioning Musk’s loyalty and attacking him over being a naturalized American citizen: “The guy was not born in this country, who was born under apartheid in South Africa. So, [he] has that mentality going on. He was pro-Apartheid, as I understand it.”

Behar was then forced, perhaps by panicked ABC lawyers, to walk back the comment — such retractions having become a regular feature on “The View“. What came out was the type of jumbled confusion that results when you interrupt a lunatic on the metro in mid-rave.

Behar stated: “I’m getting some flack because I said that Musk was pro-apartheid. I don’t really know for sure if he was … He was around at that time, but maybe he was, maybe he wasn’t—he might have been a young guy, too. So, don’t be suing me, okay Elon?”

This anti-immigrant attack on Musk, however, has worked its way into many Democrats’ talking points, even though their party had previously claimed to defend immigrants against racist Republicans seeking to close the Southern border and deport criminal illegal immigrants.

On Capitol Hill, Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio) launched a xenophobic tirade that should have shocked the conscience of the nation. She warned citizens that Musk could not be trusted because he is an immigrant who has been a citizen for only a couple of decades: “Mr. Musk has just been here just 22 years and he’s a citizen of three countries. I always ask myself the question: With the damage he’s doing here when push comes to shove, which country is he loyal to? South Africa, Canada, or the United States? And he’s only been a citizen, I’ll say again, 22 years.”

Former Republican Rep. Liz Cheney was another joining in to attack Musk for being an immigrant. “You may be unfamiliar with that part of our history since you weren’t yet an American citizen,” she wrote on Musk’s social media platform, X.

These attacks are straight out of McCarthy’s playbook. It was McCarthy who insisted that “there are no degrees of loyalty in the United States — a man is either loyal or he’s disloyal…” Of course, McCarthy (and the earlier Red Scare) attacked government employees, writers and others on the left. It is now the left that is employing the same tactics, including censorship, blacklisting and public vilification.

Throughout the 2024 campaign, the Democrats, including President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, painted Republicans as either aspiring or actual fascists. That continued recently with Minnesota Gov. and former Vice Presidential candidate Tim Walz (D), who referred to Republicans as “fascists and Nazis.”

Even journalists and civil libertarians have been reviled using the same terms. After a hearing on censorship two years ago, MSNBC contributor and former Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) attacked journalists and members who had spoken in favor of free speech. She denounced the member witnesses (Sen. Chuck Grassley, Sen. Ron Johnson and former Rep. Gabbard) as “Putin apologists” and Putin-lovers.

Stacey Plaskett, the Democratic delegate representing the Virgin Islands in the U.S. House, even suggested arresting respected journalist Matt Taibbi, who, along with Michael Shellenberger, testified on their investigation into a massive censorship system developed under the Biden administration.

The attack on Musk is particularly disgraceful, given his contributions to his adopted country. Ironically, filmmaker Michael Moore denounced the deportations of criminal illegal immigrants last week by noting that Trump was deporting someone who might cure cancer or be the next Steve Jobs. Well, this is a naturalized citizen who not only could be the next Elon Musk. He is Elon Musk.

As politicians and pundits question Musk’s loyalty, Space X is moving to rescue two astronauts stranded in space. Musk has volunteered his time and skills to achieving a record reduction in the size and waste in government. One can disagree with his priorities or the means he uses to achieve his goals, but he has nobly stepped forward to serve his country despite death threats from the left.

Musk is also facing such attacks in Canada, where thousands have signed petitions to strip him of his citizenship. The left did not seek to revoke the citizenship of figures who have eviscerated free speech and other individual rights in that country. It is Musk who is persona non grata.

This is nothing new for Musk, whom the left has targeted since he announced an intention to buy Twitter and restore free speech protections on that site.

The concern is not for Musk, who has the intestinal fortitude (and financial means) to stand up to a global mob. Moreover, with polls showing overwhelming support for reducing the size of government and the budget, the campaign to obstruct these efforts is unlikely to resonate with voters.

The danger is more acute for the country as disagreements over policy are transformed into attacks over loyalty. It is the most dangerous form of rage rhetoric, an effort not to debate but to demonize those with whom you disagree.

When you have members of Congress standing in front of the Capitol, denouncing naturalized citizens as untrustworthy after a mere 22 years as a citizen, it is a moment that would have made McCarthy blush.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”

Also.
ngl, posting a shitty shop of a meme with your own avatar in it is pretty cringe.
Correct. It's not supposed to be cool or good. I've posted it multiple times at this point.
 
That episode is one of the worst episodes of SNL to ever air in recent memory. Also, I felt scammed/bait & switched. People kept saying Shane Gillis is MAGA based/says the word retarded in his comedy routine/uses racial slurs.

Shane Gillis' alleged comedy?

"I drive a pickup truck, drink beer, and voted for Trump. Black people like to eat fried chicken."

He needs to go back to the Midwest or wherever the fuck he comes from, and coach a girl's softball team. Gillis has the face of any generic softball coach.
 
I really want to know where the $151 million went that was supposed to feed our troops. (A)
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This is something that was brought up right before Covid hit, so it never really got investigated. The gist of it is, the army is taking money straight out of soldiers' paychecks, with the excuse it will be used on food costs. However, most of the dining halls and kiosks either serve terrible food, keep running out of food, or are just flat-out closed, forcing soldiers to spend what little money they have on food from outside the base, assuming they can get there. Since, you know, if you're a brand new enlisted, you probably don't have a car.

From the article, here's a breakdown for some specific bases for the 2024 fiscal year:

Fort Stewart, Georgia:​

Money collected from soldiers: $17 million
Money spent on food: $2.1 million

Fort Drum, New York:​

Money collected from soldiers: $18.2 million
Money spent on food: $3.9 million

Fort Carson, Colorado:​

Money collected from soldiers: $22 million
Money spent on food: $5 million

Fort Riley, Kansas:​

Money collected from soldiers: $19.1 million
Money spent on food: $5.1 million

Fort Bliss, Texas:​

Money collected from soldiers: $22 million
Money spent on food: $11 million

Fort Cavazos, Texas:​

Money collected from soldiers: $42.5 million
Money spent on food: $11.7 million

Fort Bragg, North Carolina:​

Money collected from soldiers: $34.6 million
Money spent on food: $16.6 million

Fort Campbell, Kentucky:​

Money collected from soldiers: $18 million
Money spent on food: $5.1 million

Schofield Barracks, Hawaii:​

Money collected from soldiers: $14.5 million
Money spent on food: $5.3 million

Fort Wainwright, Alaska:​

Money collected from soldiers: $9 million
Money spent on food: $3 million

Fort Richardson, Alaska:​

Money collected from soldiers: $7.5 million
Money spent on food: $4 million

If you want to listen to someone more knowledgeable than me rant on the subject, here's an army drill instructor breaking it down much better than I ever could. It contains a lot more information than the above article.

Go get 'em, DOGE. And feed our boys in uniform.
 
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Imagine your country is being invaded and your loved ones are being murdered and raped.

Imagine America signed a treaty to protect you but now supports the invader.

Then a FAGGOT with a bunch of eyeliner on sits across from you and says "Uhhh, how about a little gratitude buddy?"

Very admirable self control by Zelensky
Jannies: Stop speaking about zelensky started live.
This NAFO nigger called @bear hammer:
 
Man, I don't understand it fully but I find JD Vance more attractive than any politician in my lifetime. Even these memes where they put him in a propeller hat and make his face ugly and childish cannot abate my thirst for the way the man actually looks and his "I have already determined how to destroy your argument" expressions.

I never got the "he's so sexy" hype about Obama or Bill Clinton. But JD, hubba hubba. Usha's a lucky gal.
 
Amazing how many political newfriends don't remember that and are trashcanning you
The number of people who didn't seem to get this copypasta is disturbing.

Or, this particular canard has been played out for over 8 years already and they could do much better. Copy pasting lefty cope and expecting to be taken seriously is retarded
 
That episode is one of the worst episodes of SNL to ever air in recent memory. Also, I felt scammed/bait & switched. People kept saying Shane Gillis is MAGA based/says the word retarded in his comedy routine/uses racial slurs.

Shane Gillis' alleged comedy?

"I drive a pickup truck, drink beer, and voted for Trump. Black people like to eat fried chicken."

He needs to go back to the Midwest or wherever the fuck he comes from, and coach a girl's softball team. Gillis has the face of any generic softball coach.
Gillis is very non-PC and anti cancel culture but he's not some redpilled dude. Though he also clearly doesn't care is someone hates the jews since he did a podcast with Sam Hyde.
 
Man, I don't understand it fully but I find JD Vance more attractive than any politician in my lifetime. Even these memes where they put him in a propeller hat and make his face ugly and childish cannot abate my thirst for the way the man actually looks and his "I have already determined how to destroy your argument" expressions.

I never got the "he's so sexy" hype about Obama or Bill Clinton. But JD, hubba hubba. Usha's a lucky gal.
Sweetie, Obama is a sex god
💅 🫦
 
Man, I don't understand it fully but I find JD Vance more attractive than any politician in my lifetime. Even these memes where they put him in a propeller hat and make his face ugly and childish cannot abate my thirst for the way the man actually looks and his "I have already determined how to destroy your argument" expressions.

I never got the "he's so sexy" hype about Obama or Bill Clinton. But JD, hubba hubba. Usha's a lucky gal.

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This is something that was brought up right before Covid hit, so it never really got investigated. The gist of it is, the army is taking money straight out of soldiers' paychecks, with the excuse it will be used on food costs. However, most of the dining halls and kiosks either serve terrible food, keep running out of food, or are just flat-out closed, forcing soldiers to spend what little money they have on food from outside the base, assuming they can get there. Since, you know, if you're a brand new enlisted, you probably don't have a car.

This story is one of the most enraging things I've ever heard. Ever. Period.

Have none of these people read any history? Do they not know the basic adage about armies and stomachs? Providing abundant, good food to your soldiers is one of the biggest indicators you will win your battle. Half-starving them and forcing them to eat garbage is a morale killer to end all morale killers.

I genuinely don't get it. What the fuck does the military need to spend that money on that's more important than feeding its personnel?

Can you imagine for a moment the shitfit the left would have if this kind of situation happened to prisoners? But hey it's just soldiers so the bleedinghearts are nowhere to be found.
 
Was anyone else here just kind of watching 2024 and enjoying it from an outsider perspective until they tried to kill Trimp? Looking back I think that was the democrats and RINOs biggest mistake. Mainly it was a mistake because it showed EVERYONE ELSE that the left was so unhinged they would cheer for political violence.

For me personally it was an "ohh shit they are shooting us next" kind of moment that forced me to attack every liberal and fence sitter I know relentlessly with facts and logic until they changed their views or blocked me from their life. It was for the best and more a self defense thing since those people are no longer considered safe to be in the presence of.
Similar experience. I was checked out for the last 4 years and most of the election, and only started caring after that point.
Not just the event itself, but seeing people's reactions to it ("How could he miss?", "Should have used aimbot", "Lets hope that fucker didn't just win the election for Trump"). I saw that in my city's local gaming group that I had been a part of for 10 years, along with a 10x chain of "repost this cat to kill a white person" in their meme channel and realized "Oh, it's not just banter. They really do want to kill us". I just left without saying anything.

Unrelated, but one of the illegals in the group threw this shitfit at Trump voters and nonvoters for "ruining his life" back in 2016, but I notice he's still here, doing just fine and solidly non-ruined.
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They still are, but at least they used be normal, heterosexual fetishes.
Now Doctor Who is a gay nigger and I yearn for the sweet innocence of Wilma Dearing in silver spandex.
And don't get me started on @Overly Serious's avatar.
Also beautiful tits are not a fetish even if they try to make you think it is
 
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