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Should be a wild four years.

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When does the Senate vote on the no tax on overtime thing? I try searching for an answer and I get some Reuters article telling me no, stalker child, Democrats DID NOT vote against no tax on tips and overtime.

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My retarded nigger brain doesn't want to begin processing through the lies. I just wanna know when the paycheck rape stops.
 
A group of moderate Democrats met and put out a document saying what the party should do to reconnect to working class voters.

Here is some of the text:
Takeaways on Why Democrats Have a Cultural Disconnect with the Working Class
1. Overemphasis on Identity Politics
Many working-class voters feel Democrats prioritize niche identity-based groups with overbroad, unifying messages, making them feel excluded rather than included.

2. The “Faculty Lounge” Problem
Democrats are often viewed as judgmental, out-of-touch, and dismissive of those without elite education or progressive views. This makes the party seem disconnected from everyday people.

3. Failure to Prioritize Economic Concerns
While voters struggle with jobs, wages, and inflation, Democrats are seen as more focused on cultural and social issues than on economic progress and opportunity.

4. Weak Messaging & Communication
The party’s language is often vague, politically correct, or overly intellectual, making it hard for working- class voters to connect with Democratic policies.

5. Fear of Dissent Within the Party
Democrats are perceived as intolerant of internal debate, where questioning progressive orthodoxy results in backlash rather than open discussion. Candidates and operatives need to feel more comfortable just saying NO to activist groups and unpalatable far-left ideas.

6. Attachment to Unpopular Institutions
Democrats are seen as defending elite institutions (academia, media, government bureaucracy) while being critical of institutions working-class people value (churches, small businesses, police)

7. Allowing the Far Left to Define the Party
Activist groups and progressive staffers push unpopular cultural positions, making it seem like Democrats are more extreme than they actually are. Operatives and campaigns must remember that activist groups exist to promote their single issue and raise money around it, not to make Democrats electable.

8. Reactionary Rather Than Proactive
Democrats often let Republicans set the terms of cultural debates (e.g., crime, immigration) instead of clearly defining their own positions in a way that resonates with voters.

9. Overreliance on Buzzwords & Political Correctness
Terms like "pregnant people" and "Latinx" alienate working-class voters who see them as out of touch with real-world terms and vocabulary.

10. Lack of a Positive National Identity Message
Democrats focus too much on America’s flaws (racism, sexism, inequality) without acknowledging the country’s progress and potential, making them seem pessimistic and unpatriotic.
Takeaways on How Democrats Can Reconnect Culturally with the Working Class
1. Move Away from Identity Politics

• Stop addressing voters as identity blocs and instead focus on shared American values.
• Use plain language and avoid jargon or abbreviations that can alienate voters.
• Acknowledge that people have multiple identities (e.g., Black and a veteran) rather than reducing them
to one label.

2. Emphasize Shared Values and Cultural Alignment

• Frame rights as about "freedom and justice," not just identity-based concerns.
• Highlight similarities between marginalized groups and mainstream American values.
• Embrace patriotism, community, and traditional American imagery (e.g., farms, main streets).

3. Rebalance the Party’s Cultural Messaging

• Reject fringe positions that alienate the median voter.
• Avoid overly moralistic or condescending messaging; speak plainly and directly.
• Allow candidates to express personal faith and values without fear of backlash.

4. Reduce Far-Left Influence and Infrastructure

• Build a moderate Democratic infrastructure, including media, talent pipelines, and
communications networks.
• Push back against far-left staffers and groups that exert a disproportionate influence on policy
and messaging.
• Ban far-left candidate questionnaires and refuse to participate in forums that create ideological
purity tests.

5. Engage with the Working Class in Their Spaces
• Get out of elite circles and into real communities (e.g., tailgates, gun shows, local restaurants, churches).
• Own the failures of Democratic governance in large cities and commit to improving local government.
• Show up in unfriendly media spaces and engage with voters outside traditional Democratic strongholds.

6. Improve Democratic Communication & Media Strategy
• Conduct a comprehensive study on media consumption to better understand how to reach voters.
• Develop a stronger, more relatable Democratic media presence (podcasts, social media, sports
broadcasting).
• Encourage candidates to be bold, engaging, and authentic in their messaging rather than overly
polished.

7. Embrace Moderation, Individualism, and Masculinity
• Reconnect with values like hard work, rugged individualism, and entrepreneurialism.
• Be more accepting of masculinity and male voters who feel alienated from the party.
• Shift focus from progressive "mission creep" to core Democratic issues that resonate broadly.

8. Revise Democratic Fundraising Priorities
• Move away from the dominance of small-dollar donors whose preferences may not align with the
broader electorate.
• Give candidates and campaigns more flexibility in how they spend funds without excessive donor
constraints.

The meeting was put together by a think tank known as Third Way.
 

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Man, I don't know how I feel about it. On one hand, I'm sick of Muslims and their supporters.
Seeing them get in trouble for waving around their flags is satisfying.
But I also find it worrisome.
First Amendment and all that.
Does anyone else think it is because of Da Joo's they're taking it seriously?
Like if was a militant black power group supporting the mass murder of whites, would there be any laws passed against it?

Cops in 2020 were told to stand down against BLM niggers in deep blue urban shitholes.

Cops (with less manpower and less morale than 2024) in the same deep blue urban shitholes, were given the okay by the Democrats to go full skull bashing mode against basically the same crowd that did the BLM protesting.

Columbia University in Jew York is fine with Kill Whitey, just not Death to Israel.
 
Oh yeah, the oscars. How have those been going? Anything funny?
Nothing funny, bunch of dudes wearing brooches, the animated film made by one dude using Blender from Latvia beat all the hundred million dollar Disney Dreamworks slop so lol, the tranny film only won one Oscar thanks to a real woman. Conan called Drake a pedophile, and a tribute to James Bond now that it is dead forever because Amazon owns it.
 
group punishment is something commies do
I'm not pro banning all offensive symbols. Obviously that's a slippery slope.

I'm specifically against banning ISIS/Hamas flags being waved by Islamists in rallies, because those are literal terrorist organizations that have repeatedly stated they wish to destroy the United States and American citizens for being infidels.

It's as if Trump is talking about the thread lock today.

...is Trump here in the room with us, right now 👀

*tentatively waves hello*

5. Engage with the Working Class in Their Spaces
• Get out of elite circles and into real communities (e.g., tailgates, gun shows, local restaurants, churches).
• Own the failures of Democratic governance in large cities and commit to improving local government.
• Show up in unfriendly media spaces and engage with voters outside traditional Democratic strongholds.

As an Okie, I want to see this happen SO bad. Gosh, imagine all the libsh!t leftists trying desperately to pretend they give af about the Wannemacher gun show, college football, or Jesus. 🤣
 
Senator Bernie Sanders rejects the idea that Democrats should make some kind of strategic political retreat.

‘Democrats have been playing dead for too many years’​

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Sunday sharply rejected veteran Democratic strategist James Carville’s suggestions for the Democratic Party to make a “strategic political retreat,” asserting that Democrats have spent too long in a passive political stance.

“Democrats have been playing dead for too many years,” Sanders said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” in response to Carville’s aggressive advice to Democrats, which was outlined in a New York Times guest essay published last week.

Sanders — a two-time presidential candidate — countered Carville’s take, decrying the influence of billionaires like Elon Musk and saying that Democrats need to stand firm on positioning themselves as a clear opposition to the Trump administration’s agenda.

“I think you stand up for the working class of this country and make the point that right now, the Trump administration is clearly an administration designed to represent the interests of the Musks of the world.”

Carville’s essay called for the Democratic Party to make a “strategic political retreat,” advising members of his party to “roll over and play dead” while public support for the Trump administration dwindles, before then stepping back into the fray.

“Allow the Republicans to crumble beneath their own weight and make the American people miss us,” Carville wrote. “Only until the Trump administration has spiraled into the low 40s or high 30s in public approval polling percentages should we make like a pack of hyenas and go for the jugular.”

Sanders is focusing his efforts on mobilizing voters in key battleground districts. He recently announced a tour aimed to rally opposition to what he calls “the oligarchy” — the growing influence of the super-wealthy in shaping U.S. policy.

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As for anyone who would like to read the James Carville essay being referenced here it is.

James Carville: It’s Time for a Daring Political Maneuver, Democrats​

The Republican Party is all too often effective at campaigning and winning elections, but there’s another fact about it that a lot of Americans forget: The Republican Party flat out sucks at governing. Even Tucker Carlson agrees with this. For all the huffing and puffing on the campaign trail in 2016, the first Trump administration largely amounted to tax cuts for the wealthy, 500 miles of a border wall and a destructive pandemic gone viral. George W. Bush got us into a harebrained war in Iraq and then tried to privatize Social Security while letting our financial system drive smack into the Great Recession. And George H.W. Bush governed his way into a one-term presidency because of the economy.

For Round 2 in office, instead of prioritizing the problems he campaigned on — public safety, immigration and the border and, most of all, the economy — President Trump is hellbent on dismantling the federal government. To accomplish this, he has put his faith in the most incompetent cabinet in modern history: a health and human services secretary who is already targeting federal vaccination efforts and dumped a bear carcass in Central Park as a fun prank at age 60, a director of national intelligence who was devoted to an allegedly abusive yoga-centered cult, a WWE tycoon turned head of Department of Education and a former cable news talking head as defense secretary. Which will result in one clear thing: disorder. There will probably be more enormous tax cuts for the wealthy and Medicaid cuts hitting a lot of other people, but there is nothing the American public despises more than disorder and a broken economy.

And there’s nothing Democrats can legitimately do to stop it, even if we wanted to.

With no clear leader to voice our opposition and no control in any branch of government, it’s time for Democrats to embark on the most daring political maneuver in the history of our party: roll over and play dead. Allow the Republicans to crumble beneath their own weight and make the American people miss us. Only until the Trump administration has spiraled into the low 40s or high 30s in public approval polling percentages should we make like a pack of hyenas and go for the jugular. Until then, I’m calling for a strategic political retreat.

The Army has a term for this: tactical pause. It’s a vision move — get out of the hour-to-hour, day-to-day combat where one side (ours) is largely playing defense and struggling to defend politically charged positions (like explaining D.E.I. or persuading voters to care about foreign aid) and take time to regroup, look forward and make decisions about where we want to get to over the next two years. I don’t think a lot of Americans are waiting around for us to use the same old arguments and same old language to pile on Donald Trump. They’re tired of it, and our Democratic voters are tired of watching us moan and groan to cover up our impotency out of power. They want us to be smarter than that.

Our first major test in the art of strategic retreat comes in a few weeks, as the Trump administration must get a budget passed that raises the debt ceiling. There are deep internal Republican divides over the budget: Republicans don’t know what they want to include, they don’t agree on an agenda, and they do not have a clear path forward. Mr. Trump has asked for an abolishment of the debt ceiling. The speaker of the House, his close ally, has yet to definitively support him on it.

Already, many Democrats across the party are itching at their seams for a showdown. Instead of gearing up to fight them — as we love to do — the most radical thing we can do is nothing at all. Let the Republicans disagree with themselves publicly. Do not offer a single vote. Do not insert yourself into the discourse. Do not throw a monkey wrench into the equation. Simply step away and let them flirt with a default. Just when they’ve pushed themselves to the brink and it appears they could collapse the global economy, come in and save the day. Be the competent party and not the chaos party. House Democrats know this. It’s time for everyone in our party, including the darlings who want to run in 2028, to understand this as well. You won’t win or achieve anything meaningful going toe to toe with the Trump administration right now.

This equation must be applied for the remainder of this year. Let the Republicans push for their tax cuts, their Medicaid cuts, their food stamp cuts. Give them all the rope they need. Then let dysfunction paralyze their House caucus and rupture their tiny majority. Let them reveal themselves as incapable of governing and, at the right moment, start making a coordinated, consistent argument about the need to protect Medicare, Medicaid, worker benefits and middle-class pocketbooks. Let the Republicans crumble, let the American people see it, and wait until they need us to offer our support.

It’s a wiser approach than we pursued in the first Trump administration, when Democrats tried and failed at the art of resistance politics. We voiced outrage on social issue after social issue. We spun ourselves up in a tizzy over an investigation into Russia. We fought Mr. Trump at every corner, on every issue imaginable and muddied up our message in an unwinnable war. We were saved only by his lousy governing and a lot of effort on our side finding good candidates to run for the House and Senate in 2018. Sometimes the most powerful thing we can do is retreat on the immediate battlefield — and advance in another direction.

It won’t take long. Public support for this administration will fall through the floorboard. It’s already happening. Just over a month in, the president’s approval has already sunk underwater in two new polls. The people did not vote for the Department of Education to be obliterated; they voted for lower prices for eggs and milk. Democrats, let the Republicans’ own undertow drag them away.

At this rate, the Trump honeymoon will be over, best case, by Memorial Day but more likely in the next 30 days. And in November 2025, we start turning the tide with what will be remembered as one of the most important elections in recent years: the Virginia governor’s race. From tax enforcers to rocket scientists, bank regulators and essential workers — the Trump administration is hellbent on drastically firing the federal work force, despite the fact that federal civilian employees account for just 3 percent of the federal budget. These workers are highly concentrated in Virginia, home to around 144,000 civilian federal employees. It looks set to be a resounding Republican defeat. This will be the first moment when we can take the offensive back and begin our crusade again.

Half a century ago, Muhammad Ali cemented himself as the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time not by punching his way to glory but by mastering the art of the strategic retreat. Facing George Foreman, who was rolling off 37 knockouts and 40 wins, Ali deployed the famous rope-a-dope strategy, retreating to the ropes of the ring, evading punches right and left, absorbing small jabs, until Foreman’s battery was depleted — and in Round 8 deployed a decisive knockout blow.

It’s Round 1. Let’s rope-a-dope, Dems.
 
It’s another long winded way to say “dump the t” without actually saying it. You have to actually say it if you want them to do it.
Honestly it’s more like “admit Trump is right” and I don’t see it ever happening. These people would rather see their own children raped and beaten to death than reexamine their own worldview. Because that would be embarrassing.
 
The United States has issued a warning to Maduro (President of Venezuela) following the incursion of a Venezuelan warship into Guyana.
Oh shit.
I totally forgot that mexican Saddam wanted to invade mexican India.

I remember the Brazilians not allowing him to go through Brazil to invade by land so they're all going to die doing some crazy jungle shit chopping their way into Guyana or get raped by Brazil monkeys.
 
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