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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
For today's "wtf how the hell could this happen"/god fucking damnit guys:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yewk7zen8o/https://archive.is/Jgxmm
For me it's "Not all murderers are necessarily barred from working with children ."
A convicted murderer spent almost two years working with children after he was barred from doing so, the BBC has learned.
Rashid Zaman, 44, from Bradford, West Yorkshire, served 15 years in prison for killing a man who tried to stop him and two others stealing a car in Halifax in 2001.
After his release, he began volunteering with the national charity, St Giles Trust, in 2021, and later became a paid employee who visited schools and young people's homes.
The charity said Zaman, who has not responded to the BBC's attempts to contact him, did not tell them he had been barred from working with children and that he was dismissed as soon as senior management found out.
The BBC has seen both of the Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) certificates that St Giles asked Zaman to provide. The first, from 2021, did not say he was barred from working with children. But the most recent one, issued in March 2023, did say he was barred.
St Giles said its senior management was not aware of the outcome of the most recent DBS check until December 2024, which meant Zaman continued in his role - and had contact with 28 children - after being barred.
The charity said it "deeply regret the oversight".
Zaman and two other men from Bradford were convicted of stabbing father-of-two Kevin Jackson in the head with a screwdriver, and beating him with a piece of wood near his home after he tried to stop the group from stealing his father-in-law's car.
At the time the judge called the murder "a cowardly and horrific act".
Zaman was given a life sentence and was released from prison in 2017.
Four years later he started work at St Giles, which is one of nearly 1,500 registered charities in England and Wales working with ex-offenders across the country to help rebuild their lives.

Rashid Zaman was pictured working for St Giles Trust alongside with West Yorkshire Police at Ossett bus station in August 2023
An enhanced DBS check would show up any previous convictions and whether or not someone has been barred from working with children.
It is seen as a vital part of safeguarding for organisations, and is required when anyone applies for a job with access to vulnerable people such as in teaching, social work and health services.
A former staff member, who wants to remain anonymous, told the BBC that St Giles's safeguarding in this case was "appalling", adding: "Clearly something is going wrong."
They said Zaman went into "about three" schools, sometimes alone, as part of the charity's SOS project in Yorkshire.

'Young people at risk'​

The early intervention programme prevents young people falling into criminal activity, and is delivered by ex-offenders as part of their reintegration back into society.
The source said Zaman "was doing outreach work, supporting young people in school and would liaise with families and carry out home visits".
The source called for the charity to put stricter measures in place.
"I feel really upset and annoyed because they are not just putting the young people at risk, they are putting staff at risk too," the ex-employee said.

Zaman's DBS certificate from March 2023 showed he was barred from working with children
The DBS did not tell the BBC why he was allowed to work with children in 2021 and then barred in 2023, as it does not comment on individual cases.
It said serious offences committed after 2006 may lead to someone being automatically barred from working with children, but that offences committed before that time would lead to a discretionary barring investigation.
Not all murderers are necessarily barred from working with children – some will be able to appeal and persuade the DBS that they should not be on the barred list.
But it is an offence for someone on a barred list to undertake "regulated activity" with a group from which they are barred. They may face a fine or a jail sentence of up to five years.
People on barred lists can still do up to three days of teaching or training with children in any 30-day period, in certain circumstances. It is not clear whether Zaman exceeded these limits.
West Yorkshire Police said it had launched a criminal investigation. The BBC understands Zaman was recently arrested.

'This should never have happened'​

DBS checks are issued directly to individuals, not the organisation requesting them, but a DBS spokesperson said it was the responsibility of employers to review employees' certificates.
St Giles refused to answer when the BBC asked which schools Zaman had visited, how often, and whether parents had been informed.
A spokesperson said Zaman did not tell the charity about being barred, which meant he continued to work with children.
"This should never have happened," they added.
"As soon as we became aware, we launched an internal investigation and re-checked all Yorkshire staff working with children, with no further concerns found. We have since strengthened our internal processes to ensure this cannot happen again and deeply regret the oversight."
The spokesperson said the charity had an "unwavering commitment to safeguarding" and had "immediately" reported itself to both the Local Authority Designated Officer and to the Charity Commission.
They said after the incident, it reviewed the DBS checks of all of its employees working with children in Yorkshire and "no further issues" were identified.
They added: "Every person we employ undergoes rigorous risk assessments and criminal background checks, and each one is deeply committed to using their own experiences to help others.
"Evidence shows that lived-experience programmes like ours reduce offending by 21%, while also providing meaningful employment that allows people to give back to their communities."

Employer involvement 'critical'​

The national charity's income increased from £18.4m in 2022-23 to £21m in 2023-24 – with millions of pounds of funding coming from government grants and contracts.
It has received almost £400,000 from the West Yorkshire Combined Authority since 2020, for local projects.
Alison Lowe, the region's deputy mayor for policing and crime, said she would not comment specifically on St Giles. But she said suspending funding was one step the council might take against an organisation being investigated for an alleged DBS breach.
She said safeguarding was "the number one most important issue" for any public authority.
Asked if it was an individual's responsibility to inform an employer if their DBS said they were barred, she said: "I think it's absolutely critical that the employer gets a copy of that document so that together they can make the right decision and keep our communities safe, and particularly keep our children and young people safe."
The Charity Commission said it was investigating after St Giles reported a serious incident.
A spokesperson said it had opened a regulatory compliance case and it was "assessing the information to determine our next steps".
The OG article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2593669.stm
The three car thieves who murdered a man as they tried to steal a car have been jailed for life.
The three, Rashad Zaman, 21, Rangzaib Akhtar, 20, Raees Khan, 21, attacked Kevin Jackson after he intervened as they tampered with his father-in-law's car.
They stabbed father-of-two Mr Jackson in the head with a screwdriver and beat him with a piece of wood near his home in Halifax, West Yorkshire.
Mr Jackson's widow Julie said in a statement after the trial: "Waiting for the verdicts has been the equivalent of waiting for Kevin's life support machine to be switched off.

"It has been like watching my husband die all over again."

The judge at Leeds Crown Court, Mr Justice Jackson, told them: "You confronted Kevin Jackson three-to-one, you assaulted him.
"Mr Jackson was unarmed, and by stabbing him through the head, you committed a cowardly and horrific act."
The 31-year-old engineer from Skircoat Green, Halifax, died from his injuries on New Year's Day - two days after he suffered the assault on 30 December, 2001.
During the four week murder trial, the jury was told the trio from Bradford had been on a three-month car crime spree when they murdered Mr Jackson.
They had been attempting to steal his father-in-law's Toyota Rav 4 car when Mr Jackson intervened.
Robert Smith QC, prosecuting, told the jury: "The reason they had no regard to that risk was that in the event of being confronted they were prepared to use, and did use, serious violence."
The court heard Mr Jackson had fallen asleep on the sofa after a night out.
At 0210 GMT Mr Jackson's wife, Julie, who had gone to bed, was woken by a sound outside.
She saw a man sitting on the bonnet of her father's car which was parked outside their home in Cow Lane, Halifax.
She woke her husband and saw him leave the house and run after two men.
Mr Jackson was stabbed with a screwdriver and found moments later lying fatally injured in the road in a pool of blood.
During the trial the court was told that Khan had "poked" Mr Jackson with the screwdriver but had not intended to kill him.
Akhtar told the court he hid behind bushes in a garden during the attack. He said when he came out he ran past Mr Jackson lying on the ground but did not realise he was seriously injured.
The jury was told a screwdriver had penetrated his brain by several inches.
Akhtar, of Salt Street, Khan, of Priestman Close, and Zaman of Apsley Crescent, admitted attempting to steal the car but had denied murdering Mr Jackson.
Zaman was also sentenced to four years for stealing cars, Khan was given an additional three years for similar charges and Akhtar was handed five additional years for car crime and an assault on an inmate while on remand.
After the hearing, Detective Superintendent Bob Bridgestock, of West Yorkshire Police, said: "The way of life for these three was to steal what they wanted and the use of violence was entirely unnecessary to escape on that night.
"Kevin suffered appalling injuries and was left on the road to die."
 
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My mistake, I assumed that by presenting the scenario of a good raghead vs a bad Englishman would imply that they are not a pedo worshiping muzzie. Clearly I was too generous with my charity.
They can be a good raghead in their raghead land. The problem is that we've allowed race to get in the way of punishing people, no one cares when Whites commit crime because we prosecute them. When nons commit crime, every excuse and new ones will be made for why we can't prosecute them or why they receive lighter sentences for horrid crimes.
 
Real easy. Most charities aren’t going to do full background checks.
TL;DR: Most regular activity involving kids or adults who could be deemed vulnerable would require the charity to get a background check.

You might not need a check if you provide a service for a charity once, but if it is you every other week you would and it would raise some very big questions why they didn't.
 
Yeah I really have no idea what the EU liberal elites are thinking. They are in a complete state of denial.

Either they really are this stupid, or there's something else going on behind the scenes that we're not fully aware of.

The whole situation is really odd at the moment...
It's quite simple, there's no 5d chess. They are quite willing to send millions of us to die and destroy the world before they lose face with their peers.
They're completely detached from the real world and real consequences of their behaviour, all they care about is getting asspats for supporting the cause, no matter what the cause is.
There is no brilliant plan behind this, there's no secret amazing strategy. It really is elderly men and women acting like bitchy teenagers
 
send millions of us to die
You could have millions of youngish adults in UK die and it be a positive benefit to society. The undergrowth needs cut back. There'll be a lot less whining about tfw no gf and muh vidya once enough of them have had their bloody legs blown off.

In other news, that fat little fgt Vance dissing the UK army and then pussying out like a bitch out by claiming "I wasn't talking about youuuuu" is the gayest fucking thing I've seen since Drag Race was last on. Even Farage is pushing his shit in over this
 
You could have millions of youngish adults in UK die and it be a positive benefit to society. The undergrowth needs cut back. There'll be a lot less whining about tfw no gf and muh vidya once enough of them have had their bloody legs blown off.

In other news, that fat little fgt Vance dissing the UK army and then pussying out like a bitch out by claiming "I wasn't talking about youuuuu" is the gayest fucking thing I've seen since Drag Race was last on. Even Farage is pushing his shit in over this
Why are Burgers so retarded? There’s a certain fatherless cheese bothering ponce who runs a forum who’s worse.

They rely on the British military and intelligence services for so much and only seem to realise when we withdraw support.

Anyone remember when Obama decided to suck up to France and didn’t contact the British government after his election? He got a talking to from the CIA after they were being ignored by us because of the insult.

When they need soldiers who can do a proper job rather than hiding in a base with its own McDonalds it always is they call on.
 
You could have millions of youngish adults in UK die and it be a positive benefit to society. The undergrowth needs cut back. There'll be a lot less whining about tfw no gf and muh vidya once enough of them have had their bloody legs blown off.
In order to do this we need to stop, instantly, financially rewarding young women who intentionally choose single motherhood to maximize their benefits payments.

It simply should not pay more to be out of work, and to get spunked up by a complete stranger,who you have no intention of ever allowing to be part of your child's life, but it does and for uneducated women with no prospects or work ethic,this is the path they choose.

£837 a month and pressure to find work and prove you're looking vs getting pregnant and shitting out a bastard plus the non cash perks you get is a no brainer really. Instant entitlement to a council home, child benefits, day care for when you need a bit of "me time".

Making having children out of wedlock with an absent father has been a complete disaster for the social fabric of this country. I absolutely do not mean women who end up leaving abuse, or women whose partners die or leave them. I am very specifically talking about young girls who know a baby =££ and who go out and get knocked up by the first genetic slop bucket to throw them a ride.

Likewise the acceptance of young men will multiple children with scores of young women. I cannot fathom how anyone would want to go anywhere near such a man.
 
Every news network currently going mental about JD Vance apparently saying the UK is "some random country that hasn't fought war in 30 years".

Problem is, when you actually watch the interview, he doesn't say that at all. He doesn't mention the UK. At worst, you can say he implied it was the UK, but this is not what every single mainstream news outlet is reporting.

Here is a clip of the actual interview:


Here are some hysterical mainstream reactions:




Really feel like things are starting to get a bit crazy like in Covid times where a huge percentage of the population is completely buying into everything the news says, and denies the clear evidence that is available to anyone that is willing to look.
 
Problem is, when you actually watch the interview, he doesn't say that at all. He doesn't mention the UK. At worst, you can say he implied it was the UK, but this is not what every single mainstream news outlet is reporting.
He’s not going to marry you.

Whilst our government is a bunch of retarded faggots he has insulted their only ally that’s worth its salt.

His wife is hot though. That’s some rice I’d boil.
 
Every news network currently going mental about JD Vance apparently saying the UK is "some random country that hasn't fought war in 30 years".

Problem is, when you actually watch the interview, he doesn't say that at all. He doesn't mention the UK. At worst, you can say he implied it was the UK, but this is not what every single mainstream news outlet is reporting.

Here is a clip of the actual interview:


Here are some hysterical mainstream reactions:




Really feel like things are starting to get a bit crazy like in Covid times where a huge percentage of the population is completely buying into everything the news says, and denies the clear evidence that is available to anyone that is willing to look.
I can't help but feel that this is a tactic to try an induce in the polls what happened in Canada after Trump threatened his tariffs. In Canada, support for the Conservatives is falling somewhat due to the party leader's (perceived) alignment with Trump, and it's seeing a surge in the Canadian liberals, who fell to 20% at the start of December, but have now climbed back up to 30%. If Vance becomes a boogy man to the British electorate, then Starmer's show of putting him down (even though it was a blatant lie) will reflect positively on him and may help him out as far as polling and perception are concerned. And if Vance becomes president in 2028, and Starmer is still in, Labour will even use that to prove Starmer will be a strong foil to Vance whilst Reform wil kowtow and thus Labour should remain in power. This might all just be schizo babble though.
 
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I can't help but feel that this is a tactic to try an induce in the polls what happened in Canada after Trump threatened his tariffs.
It blatantly is. Starmer has been trying to ride the Ukraine/US fall-out kerfuffle and position himself as a great statesman and a European Leader, but he's too autistic to actually pull it off. It gets him buttpats from twitter and reddit, but punters are still flocking to Reform, even after Farage's repeated attempts to eat his own feet. Whatever good work he might do, he'll still come across as a dullard with a weird voice and a disturbing affection for rich pakistani men.
 
You could have millions of youngish adults in UK die and it be a positive benefit to society. The undergrowth needs cut back. There'll be a lot less whining about tfw no gf and muh vidya once enough of them have had their bloody legs blown off.

In other news, that fat little fgt Vance dissing the UK army and then pussying out like a bitch out by claiming "I wasn't talking about youuuuu" is the gayest fucking thing I've seen since Drag Race was last on. Even Farage is pushing his shit in over this
Send millions of white British men to die. That’s exactly what the UK needs right now. Why don’t you just advocate for a British caliphate outright?
 
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