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Should be a wild four years.

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How does tariff nuking with our neighbors exactly benefit Americans? and, you know, not make everything expensive?

Did they even think this through? maybe, just maybe, waging economic wars with emotions is a retarded idea.
HOLY SHIT STOP!

Everyone has an opinion but not everyone is informed in the fucking slightest. The IMPORTER pays the tariff, NOT the CUSTOMER. I’m so fucking sick of this complete misconception. And anyway, let’s say the price was pushed onto the costumer. The amount of jobs that would be moved here domestically would far outweigh any sort of hypothetical price of goods in the long run. Think forwardly.

And also adding taxes into the mix, if we removed sales tax in favor of a tariff cost that would be far more favorable in the long-run. Less taxes = more money saved.
 
I’ll update more as I read the decision…
I think it’s saying that because the EPA placed restrictions on the treatment plant under the conditions of, “The Bay can only test at 50 parts per billion of this chemical. If the San Francisco Bay fails these pollutant levels, your permit is impacted by it”.

SF says that’s unreasonable because why the hell is the treatment plant responsible for the quality of the entire SF Bay? Anybody could be putting that stuff in. The treatment plant is already following quality standards on discharge from the plant, so then why should it be responsible for pollutant levels in the ocean?

Still reading…
 
HOLY SHIT STOP!

Everyone has an opinion but not everyone is informed in the fucking slightest. The IMPORTER pays the tariff, NOT the CUSTOMER. I’m so fucking sick of this complete misconception. And anyway, let’s say the price was pushed onto the costumer. The amount of jobs that would be moved here domestically would far outweigh any sort of hypothetical price of goods in the long run. Think forwardly.

And also adding taxes into the mix, if we removed sales tax in favor of a tariff cost that would be far more favorable in the long-run. Less taxes = more money saved.
How long do these jobs take to show up?

The jews have been promising jobs coming back to America for decades.
 
How long do these jobs take to show up?

The jews have been promising jobs coming back to America for decades.
I mean, some of it can show up as existing jobs immediately having overtime available.

Some of it could be sister companies shipping equipment back.

There are different manifestations of production moving, and building a new plant and hiring new workers is the slowest
 
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What's amazing is people act like this is some affront done by America, but when you point out the broken tariffs Canada has on US goods, and you ask shouldn't they be the same or lower across the board, people agree.

And Fagdeau acting like Canada has never been mean to the US, when they boo and act like morally superior faggots at every chance, read the room. Now I want to crush them even more. You would think Canada would take a note from Japan on how to act like an ally but they let in so many Chynese they instinctively have to do the retarded opposite.
 
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I bet one of those workers will kill Trump...just saying.
There would be no denying the political affiliation of someone who assassinated Trump and the current government, with Vance at the helm in this hypothetical situation, would look into said assassination. They would not shrug and hold a few bullshit committees like the Biden administration did. Even if people hate Trump with a burning passion and want him to drop dead, I cannot understand how any of them could think that an assassination of Trump would do anything other than make him a martyr and strengthen his political legacy.

Of course, this is assuming that we're dealing with sane, sober people.
 
I bet one of those workers will kill Trump...just saying.
And to have JD "Couch Rider" Vance institute a Fatwa against Democrats, who may or not be involved, triggering Civil War 2: Autistic Boogaloo?

Please don't, I am afraid of things truly happening, for when they do it's never a good thing.
 
Ooof. Jesus.
It's over for leafs. Trudoh is invoking globohomo.

>The rules based international order
>The values of the United Nations
Well, they can get out from our umbrella and ask the UN and the rules based international order to provide for their defense.

Now we have a few thousand square miles of trees to harvest so our reaper drones can have a clear shot.

My wife’s been dreaming of moving up to Berlin. Maybe they’ll finally reopen the paper mill.
 
HOLY SHIT STOP!

Everyone has an opinion but not everyone is informed in the fucking slightest. The IMPORTER pays the tariff, NOT the CUSTOMER. I’m so fucking sick of this complete misconception. And anyway, let’s say the price was pushed onto the costumer. The amount of jobs that would be moved here domestically would far outweigh any sort of hypothetical price of goods in the long run. Think forwardly.

And also adding taxes into the mix, if we removed sales tax in favor of a tariff cost that would be far more favorable in the long-run. Less taxes = more money saved.
To be fair you can’t do everything domestically, especially not at the same price point global supply chains offer. Not every material is available domestically, not every crop can be grown in America. So unless you want to people to pay more or cut worker benefits/wages, you’re gonna need some kind of outsourcing to keep things profitable, and even then you still can’t get rare earths from Wisconsin. I guess you can depend solely on local timber for your wood, but then you just deforested your own country. Seems like a bad swap to me. Resources are finite, exploiting only domestic resources eventually leaves you depleted.
 
HOLY SHIT STOP!

Everyone has an opinion but not everyone is informed in the fucking slightest. The IMPORTER pays the tariff, NOT the CUSTOMER. I’m so fucking sick of this complete misconception. And anyway, let’s say the price was pushed onto the costumer. The amount of jobs that would be moved here domestically would far outweigh any sort of hypothetical price of goods in the long run. Think forwardly.

And also adding taxes into the mix, if we removed sales tax in favor of a tariff cost that would be far more favorable in the long-run. Less taxes = more money saved.
Quoted this because it needs to be repeated. How did we end up with so many people who don't understand simple things or have a scintilla of intellectual curiosity or forward thinking to take a breath and go, oh, wow, this might be a good thing. It's just oh no, not my coffee/funkos/doritos costing more!

It also bears repeating that the economy has been in a recession since 2020 and the numbers have been fudged to the gods so Biden didn't look bad. Everyone wants prices to go down and immigration slowed and criminals cast out and housing to be affordable again and the job market to get better and for kids to stop being indoctrinated and for our money to stop being thrown away and for DEI to go away...but every attempt at making that happen is met with, "No, don't do it that way! I don't like when it's done that way!"

Not saying Trump et.al. shouldn't be criticized (they should when need be) but at least be informed about what they're doing and apply it to more than five minutes into the future.
 
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