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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Send millions of white British men to die. That’s exactly what the UK needs right now. Why don’t you just advocate for a British caliphate outright?
Where did I say the millions of people who should die in this country are white, why the fuck would conscription involve a racially discriminative element? Never did before.

@BongoMongo I agree, this country needs to give out generous financial incentives for abortion. The abortion rate in the UK is far too low. Get more of the incoming poor scraped out before they become a burden on the welfare state, the education system, and the criminal justice system in that order.
 
Well turns out the coalition of the Willing may be the Coalition of the unwilling. The only country committed to sending troops is Starmer with Canada as "maybe". KEK

On top of that Starmer has implied that he will send troops in without a parliamentary vote. This posturing of being a "peacekeeper" and insertion of being the main character is frankly sad. The Iraq war was nearly a nail in the coffin for Labour in terms of votes, a lot of people even don't vote for it 20+ years later.

I have to admit I do not understand Starmer at all, he loves WEF but discards the core features of a political leader. He flip-flops his own party points. Is a charisma vacuum, makes decisions that endanger the preservation of his own party. He does not even understand geopolitics.

I thought Gordon Brown was batshit and indirectly evil but Starmer is up there. He is like a political lolcow because he just keeps providing so much entertainment, it would be funnier if we were not at his mercy.

He has inserted himself into an impossible situation now, where he will face consequences. Farage is a bridge to US relations and he handled Friday well. Reform bar Tice's retarded warbling is gaining members. I do think Ukraine will submit rather quickly and the clean up from this is going to be glorious.
 
If we're going by conscripting those who claims benefits then a lot of the recent "brits" coming into the country per capita are the highest receivers whilst not paying into it.
Date of birth, same as ever. Start with the 2000 cohort and start working backwards. Honestly I'd start with the kids statemented for special educational needs, but that looks a bit obvious. The kids with rich parents and smart parents will be able to dodge the draft, same as usual. The junior wings of Isis and Norf FC could use a good going over with machine guns. Will help solve that troublesome housing crisis too. The girls can be put to use clearing landmines and bandaging the lads under fire and all that. There's plenty for them to do in an active warzone.
 
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He’s not going to marry you.

Whilst our government is a bunch of retarded faggots he has insulted their only ally that’s worth its salt.

His wife is hot though. That’s some rice I’d boil.
Be realistic here.

There is footage online of Starmer being rebuked very clearly by Trump and Vance. He was asked, on camera just like Ukraine's best tracksuit wearer, "Can you win this war without us".

Starmer flubbered it. Because he knows what the answer is.

Britain gets shown an undue level of respect by the US. The US entertains UK politicians talking about a special relationship, but never really focus on it themselves.

The UK isn't leading on intelligence anymore, even America's in this area is apparently totally overshadowed by Mossad.

Brittan has not ruled the seas for well over a century now, and it isnt a secret the navy is not fit for service. The army itself has been systematically destroyed by the policies of ineptitude, breeding disrespect among the public and woke dogmas.

Britain is not an especially useful ally, it barely stands out from other forgettable European states purely for its (likely currently unusable) nuclear capacity.

I don't like it, but the UK has been more of a vassal than an ally for quite a while and frankly its our fault we slip further and further into irrelevance.

For the amount of shit Starmer is doing, and continues to do against them, they've been shockingly tolerant and forgiving.
 
Britain is not an especially useful ally, it barely stands out from other forgettable European states purely for its (likely currently unusable) nuclear capacity.

I don't like it, but the UK has been more of a vassal than an ally for quite a while and frankly its our fault we slip further and further into irrelevance.
Honestly I always wondered why the UK seems to keep slipping in any relevant netric. Is it because America is just too culturally dominant? Is it because the UK is ruled by retards? Is it just complacency? Shouldn't the ruling class know better?

You'd think Britain has a leg up on all the other ostensible allies the US has (Japan comes to mind actually), given the shared language and historically close ties with America.
 
Where did I say the millions of people who should die in this country are white, why the fuck would conscription involve a racially discriminative element? Never did before.

@BongoMongo I agree, this country needs to give out generous financial incentives for abortion. The abortion rate in the UK is far too low. Get more of the incoming poor scraped out before they become a burden on the welfare state, the education system, and the criminal justice system in that order.
No financial incentives. Why should the tax payer have to reward some slapper for not becoming a burden on society ? I appreciate it's a smaller negative cost, but why should it be a cost at all ? If you get pregnant, then you are financially responsible. No hand outs. This was another crazy Left wing idea, the destruction of the nuclear family. As important in all this is making little boys ( they aren't men ) that run around and have multiple kids financially responsible. I don't think you'll ever make them properly responsible, but they should be severely financially disincentivised from being a burden on society.
You should reap what you sew - whatever the consequences of your actions are, you have to bear them.
It isn't a question of hating the poor, it's a question of hating people that are irresponsible and think it's clever to burden others.

Honestly I always wondered why the UK seems to keep slipping in any relevant netric. Is it because America is just too culturally dominant? Is it because the UK is ruled by retards? Is it just complacency? Shouldn't the ruling class know better?

You'd think Britain has a leg up on all the other ostensible allies the US has (Japan comes to mind actually), given the shared language and historically close ties with America.

Short answer - lack of productivity and the soft socialist policies that fuel it.
The cold hard truth is the UK is inhabited by a large amount of lazy, uneducated, worthless slobs that are a net negative on the country. The socialist policies reinforce their laziness and lack of ambition ( the state acts as a safety blanket for bad life choices ( see above ) and welfare is seen as a lifestyle choice by many ). The policies also stifle and inhibit business ( which generates wealth ).
 
Well with all this cheery stuff I reckon we need some news to distract us.

Firstly Greggs news
Greggs will share a record £20.5 million with some long-serving this month after recording a jump in sales and profits in 2024.

The group made a pre-tax profit of £203.9 million for the year, 8.3 per cent higher than in 2023, as it launched new shops, extended its opening hours and raised prices.

About 10 per cent of this will be shared amongst eligible employees through the group’s profit-share scheme.

Chief executive Roisin Currie said long-serving staff – those who have done more than six years service and work more than 20 hours a week with the chain – will get around £850 extra at the end of March.

The bakery chain, which has more than 2,600 shops across the UK, generated sales topping £2 billion – up 11.3 per cent from 2023.

This was partly driven by the opening of about 225 new shops during the year, a record amount for the group.


Excluding the impact of new openings, sales grew 5.5 per cent compared with the prior year, which reflected longer opening hours in some shops and the roll-out of delivery services, but weighed down by a generally tougher market over the second half of the year.

Greggs said many customers were continuing to worry about the cost of living including energy prices, mortgage and rent costs.

Ms Currie said consumer confidence remains low into 2025, and there was an ongoing trend of people “saving more than spending”.

“It’s been a challenging winter and I think we’ll continue to see that for the time being, and as we go through this year hopefully consumer confidence starts to strengthen,” Ms Currie told the PA news agency.

The chain raised the prices of some of its food items last year – most recently, the national price of its traditional sausage roll increased by 5p to £1.30, while other items such as coffee and doughnuts also rose by between 5p and 10p.

Ms Currie said the group raised prices to help mitigate the impact of wage increases, having upped the salaries of a large proportion of its staff at the same time.

Prices have not changed since then and she insisted there were no “firm plans” for further increases, although she added: “Unfortunately we have stayed in an inflationary environment, so therefore we have to make sure we react appropriately across the balance of the year.”
Surrey is now just giving the gypsy community land. A move which will certainly not result in demands for more.
Runnymede Borough Council is asking residents for their views on how eligibility for allocated pitches and plots should be determined for Gypsies, Romas and Travellers (GRT), and how applicants should be prioritised.
The council says this is part of its Runnymede 2030 Local Plan which aims to "meet the accommodation needs" of the GRT community.
It proposes to designate 10 plots at Longcross Garden Village, and 35 other new pitches in "perpetuity".
The pitches are in areas including Chertsey, Ottershaw, Addlestone, Thorpe Lea Road Northand, Thorpe Lea Road West and Virginia Water.
The local authority states the proposed allocated plots and pitches are reserved for the GRT community only.
The council added should the communities express interest in the acquiring one of the plots or pitches, they will be required to fill out an eligibility form.
A spokesperson for Runnymede Borough Council said: "Tell us what you think about our proposed guidance on who should be eligible for plots and pitches and how applications should be prioritised."
The consultation closes on 3 March and residents can email their views to the council.
GB news wins a legal challenge with Ofcom due to the regulator overstepping its authority. This is the same body that is going to be regulating the internet.
GB News has won its judicial review of decisions made by TV watchdog Ofcom, that two shows hosted by Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg breached the broadcasting code.
The High Court judgment, external by Mrs Justice Collins Rice concluded that Ofcom's rulings were unlawful. It is the first time the watchdog has lost such a case.
The judgement said Ofcom's initial rulings - that the 9 May and 13 June 2023 broadcasts were in breach of its codes on "due impartiality and due accuracy in news" - were unlawful.
GB News CEO Angelos Frangopoulos said the decision "vindicates GB News' position as the fearless defender of free speech in the United Kingdom", while Ofcom said it "accepted the court's guidance".

Mr Frangopoulos added: "I call on the government and Parliament to consider the seriousness of this fundamental failure by Ofcom."
The judge's ruling stated: "I am minded to quash the two decisions in this case, and remit them to be reconsidered by Ofcom, subject to whatever further procedure may be fairly indicated."
The court found that Ofcom had misapplied Rule 5.3, external of the code, saying the provision only applies to "news programmes" and not to current affairs shows, such as the one Sir Jacob hosts.
The decisions had been made as part of five GB News rulings by Ofcom in March last year, including three about shows hosted by Esther McVey and Philip Davies.
Ofcom's rulings had said the State of the Nation shows hosted by Sir Jacob, external broke rules stating politicians should not usually front news coverage.
The Ofcom code says a politician can't be a newsreader, interviewer or reporter in a news programme "unless, exceptionally, it is editorially justified". They can, however, front current affairs shows.
At the time, Sir Jacob was the Conservative MP for North East Somerset.


During the programmes, the "host politicians acted as newsreaders, news interviewers or news reporters in sequences which clearly constituted news - including reporting breaking news events - without exceptional justification", according to Ofcom investigations last year.
The regulator concluded at the time: "News was, therefore, not presented with due impartiality."
But GB News responded to the rulings, saying: "These decisions go against established precedent and raises serious questions about Ofcom's oversight over its own regulations."
Ofcom said on Friday: "We accept the court's guidance on this important aspect of due impartiality in broadcast news and the clarity set out in its judgment.
"We will now review and consult on proposed changes to the broadcasting code to restrict politicians from presenting news in any type of programme to ensure this is clear for all broadcasters."
GB News said, external after the court quashed the decisions that the court had ordered Ofcom to pay its legal costs incurred in the proceedings.
This seems to go into it a bit more

That person who demanded to be legally recognised as non-binary lost the case.
A US-born tech worker cannot legally identify as non-binary, the Court of Appeal has ruled.
Ryan Castellucci, who moved to Britain in 2019, launched legal action after only being offered the choice of being designated male or female in the UK.
The cybersecurity expert does not identify as either a man or a woman and uses the pronouns “they/them” and the title “Mx”, the court was told.
If the case had succeeded, ‘non-binary’ could have become a legally recognised gender in the UK for the first time.
However, Lord Justice Singh and two other judges upheld a previous High Court ruling that dismissed Castellucci’s claims, declaring that the issue should be decided by Parliament and not the courts.

The Appeal Court hearing was told that the American was originally registered as male on the original birth certificate.
After being diagnosed with gender dysphoria and undergoing various medical treatments, including genital surgery, this was amended to “non binary” in line with Californian law.
Upon arriving in Britain, Castellucci attempted to have this status recognised through a Gender Recognition Certificate but it was refused as, under UK law, only two genders exist.

At the High Court, the computer expert - who claims to feel “no attachment to either masculinity or to femininity” - explained the “ordeal” of attempting to have gender recorded as non-binary in UK documents.
“After receiving their updated birth certificate from the state of California, [they] filed ‘change of circumstances’ papers asking for a new Biometric Residence Permit (BRP),” the court heard.
“In short, UK Visas & Immigration indicated that [they] had to choose either a male or a female gender. [They] asked them to accept ‘anything other than ‘M/male’. The new BRP lists their gender as ‘F’ (for female).”

The court also heard that on Castellucci’s driving licence, gender is simply denoted by a number.
“They explain that they worry about possible difficulties if they apply for British citizenship, as they plan to do,” the court said.
“They explain that it is very upsetting not to know how their gender would be recorded on their death certificate and to be in a situation of uncertainty in the United Kingdom, when their US documents clearly reflect their gender as non-binary.”

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Arguing against the claim at the original hearing, Anna Thompson, the deputy director of the Equality Hub in the Cabinet Office, said that recognising “non binary” as a third gender would cause the Government significant issues as well as raising “moral” questions.
She said: “Any changes would also require public consultation and a full legislative process through Parliament. Further, any introduction of legal recognition of a non-binary/third gender would raise difficult moral questions that would need to be dealt with by Parliament.
“For example, how should marriage law accommodate non binary individuals, should they have access to women only refuges, should they be treated as mothers, fathers or something else and should they be accommodated in a male or female prison.”
At the Appeal Court, Castellucci’s lawyers argued that the law should treat the American differently as non binary status had already been recognised in California.
They also claimed that a rejection of that argument would be a breach of Castellucci’s right to privacy and right to not be discriminated against under European human rights laws.

However, Lord Justice Singh rejected these claims observing that Parliament has chosen not to recognise “non binary” as a legal designation.
He said: “The issue is one for the UK Parliament to consider, and to change the law if that is thought to be desirable.
“There is no general consensus, either in the Council of Europe or more generally around the world, in favour of recognising non-binary status.
“Furthermore, this is an area of social policy which is highly sensitive and potentially controversial, thereby being better suited to resolution in Parliament rather than in the courts.”
Ireland's first minister says we shouldn't be paying to arm Ukraine.
First Minister Michelle O'Neill has said she is "incredulous" at a UK government deal for a Belfast factory to supply air defence missiles to Ukraine.
The Sinn Féin vice-president said that "rather than buying weapons of war, I would rather see the money invested in public services".
The Thales missile factory is to supply 5,000 air defence missiles to Ukraine in a deal worth up to £1.6bn, the UK government announced on Sunday.
It will involve recruiting 200 additional staff.
Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer announced the order as he laid out a four-point plan to "reach peace and defend Ukraine".


In the Northern Ireland Assembly on Monday, O'Neill was asked by independent assembly member (MLA) Claire Sugden whether she supported the deal.
The first minister said she found it "incredulous" at a time when "public services are being cut left, right and centre".
She added: "At a time when we've endured 14 years of austerity, at a time whenever winter fuel payments are being cut from older people, at a time when lots of small local businesses are going to go to the wall because they can't afford the national insurance hikes.
"At a time whenever our farmers are worried because of the inheritance tax, I think at a time like that, rather than buying weapons of war, I would rather see the money invested in public services."
O'Neill said she believed "the focus of the international community should always be to work towards negotiation and peace settlements".
"That's my approach to these things," she added.

Deputy First Minister Emma Little-Pengelly said people should be "very proud" of the aerospace and defence industry in Northern Ireland.
She was responding to a question about O'Neill's comments from Steve Aiken of the Ulster Unionist Party (UUP).
Referencing efforts to support the economy, he asked: "How can we say that when the first minister today when asked the question about bringing in £1.6bn worth of investment into Northern Ireland and 200 extra jobs, found it incredulous?"
In response, the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) minister said: "We have a fantastic aerospace and defence industry in Northern Ireland, and so much of that is around supporting people to secure peace.
"We do all want to see peace. We want to see a peaceful outcome negotiated."
She told assembly members: "We should be very proud of the world-class products and contribution that they are making in very, very important areas."
DUP East Antrim MP Sammy Wilson said the first minister's position on Ukraine is "entirely contradictory".
"She can't on one hand warmly welcome that there is "no ambiguity" about European support for Ukraine and on the other, criticise the supply of missiles that gives practical effect to that support," he added.

Now a three part transgender collection

Police admit their investigation into a Newcastle fan was bullshit.
Police have apologised over an investigation they mounted into a Newcastle United fan banned by the football club after expressing gender-critical views on social media.
Northumbria Police have told Linzi Smith that crucial elements of their investigation into claims she had committed a hate crime were not acceptable.
It said that while there was no misconduct by its officers, the way they handled her case and similar hate crime reports in future should be subject to further training.
Ms Smith, 34, was accused of being transphobic by a complainant who told Newcastle United that trans people would not feel safe sitting near her.
The 34-year-old, who is gay and promotes lesbian, bisexual, and women’s rights, had posted tweets in which she suggested that pro-transgender activism was homophobic because it wanted to “trans the gay away” and that some trans people were suffering from mental illness.

Northumbria Police interviewed Ms Smith under caution after the club’s dossier was handed to them.
Ms Smith said that she had been shocked to learn a hate crime investigation had been opened against her and was invited to attend a police interview under caution in November 2023.
She said that despite being told the interview was voluntary, she was warned she could be liable to arrest if she left, leaving her in a “state of terror”.
Ms Smith added that she felt “embarrassed and humiliated” at having to explain and justify her biological sex and sexual orientation to officers during the investigation.
Even after being told, following the two-hour police interview, that no further action would be taken she received a letter from police saying the investigation would remain open pending further information coming to light. She said this led her to feeling she was being “stalked under the respectable guise of a police inquiry”.
In her complaint to Northumbria Police, Ms Smith said she had been made to feel distressed and intimidated by the officers investigating the case.
She also claimed that the force discriminated against her throughout the investigation because of her gender-critical beliefs, which is the view that a person’s gender identity cannot differ from their biological sex.

Ms Smith says she was told by Newcastle United that it had taken the decision to suspend her membership as a result of the police investigation into her social media posts.

Northumbria Police said it had not influenced the club’s decision and had no power to intervene in the matter.
But in a letter to Ms Smith responding to her complaints, the force has now apologised for what she went through.
The force stated: “The effect of these events to your personal life is neither disputed, nor taken lightly. The investigating officer extends sincere apologies for the situation you have found yourself in.”
Northumbria Police found that an officer who interviewed Ms Smith had been wrong to refer to a “hypothetical victim” of her alleged hate crime, when there was in fact no actual victim.
It stated: “You are correct in stating that [the officer] referred to a hypothetical victim and that the offence for which you were interviewed requires a victim. There was no victim in this crime and questions surrounding a hypothetical victim are not applicable to the offence of Malicious Communication.
“The service provided by Northumbria Police was not acceptable.”
The force also found that officers had not considered carefully enough whether there was any crime at all that needed investigating before deciding to interview Ms Smith under caution.
It described this as “a failure to consider the points to prove” and found this was a repeated failing by officers dealing with Ms Smith’s case.


The force said that complaints arising out of people feeling offended by the expression of someone’s views were likely to become more common and that officers will require more training to handle them properly.
It stated: “Reports of this nature are likely to increase and greater scrutiny to evidence is required prior to an incident being recorded as a crime and throughout the allocation and investigative process.”
Ms Smith, who is continuing to pursue legal action against Newcastle United and the Premier League for their treatment of her, welcomed Northumbria Police’s admissions.
But she said the force’s repeated failings had left her feeling “let down”.
She told The Telegraph: “The police report has been long awaited on my part, and while I feel there are areas that truly vindicate me as an individual and in relation to the stance I take around gender ideology, I can’t help but feel let down and quite frightened that there were so many failings from so many police officers that led to me even finding myself in that situation in the first place.”

Lord Young, general secretary of the Free Speech Union, which has been helping Ms Smith, said: “Linzi should never have been investigated for a hate crime for saying trans women aren’t women, any more than she should have been banned from Newcastle games.
“I’m delighted that Northumbria Police have now admitted their error and apologised and I look forward to Newcastle now lifting its ban.
“No one should be punished by a football club for expressing a point of view that is perfectly legitimate, not remotely hateful and which 99 per cent of the club’s fans agree with.”
SNP say they've always supported single sex spaces. Evidence to the contrary are hate facts
The Scottish government “stands firmly behind” the provision of single-sex spaces, a minister has said after the UK equality watchdog addressed issues raised by an employment tribunal brought by a nurse who objected to sharing a women’s changing room with a transgender doctor.
The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) requested a meeting with Holyrood’s health secretary as well as writing directly to Fife health board, which is disputing the claim, to “remind” management of their obligations under the 2010 Equality Act.

Sandie Peggie, who has worked as a nurse for NHS Fife for more than 30 years, claims she was subject to unlawful harassment under the Equality Act when she was expected to share a changing room with a trans woman, Dr Beth Upton.

Her claim is disputed by the health board, which described it as unnecessary and vexatious. Upton is also disputing it. The doctor complained to the board about Peggie’s behaviour, claiming it amounted to bullying, after an altercation in the women’s changing room in Victoria hospital, Kirkcaldy, in December 2023.
Peggie told a hearing earlier this month that she had felt “embarrassed and intimidated” when Upton started to get changed alongside her.
Upton’s complaint also alleged that on another occasion Peggie left a seriously ill patient when the doctor appeared in the cubicle, a claim that Peggie denies. The tribunal has been adjourned until July.
In Holyrood on Tuesday afternoon, the social justice secretary, Shirley-Anne Somerville, said the Scottish government was considering the letter from the EHRC, which has also raised concerns over forthcoming guidance for NHS Scotland that will recommend trans staff be allowed to use their “preferred facilities”.
Responding to a question from the Scottish Conservative shadow equalities minister, Tess White, Somerville said: “This government stands firmly behind the separate and single-sex exemptions provided in the 2010 act. Members will be aware this allows for trans people to be excluded when this is a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim.”
However, referring to reporting in the Herald that NHS Fife may have broken the law by not carrying out the required equality impact assessment on its changing room policy, White said: “We still don’t know how many public bodies are acting unlawfully when it comes to single-sex spaces. This is exactly what we warned about when Nicola Sturgeon was pursuing her flawed gender self-ID plans.”
Before the Scottish Labour conference last weekend, the party’s leader, Anas Sarwar, said he regretted his party’s support for gender recognition reforms, which remain permanently stalled after a challenge from the previous UK government.
Sarwar called for clearer guidance on single-sex provision in the Scottish public sector, but the first minister, John Swinney, has said current guidance is “crystal clear”.
Lawyers and campaigners are watching the Peggie tribunal closely given how little case law exists on the question of workplace changing rooms.
In England, a group of nurses are suing County Durham and Darlington NHS foundation trust for sexual harassment and sex discrimination because of a policy that allows trans women to use their women’s changing rooms.
Nurses win the right to name someone using their changing room
NHS nurses have won a legal battle to name a transgender colleague who used their female changing room.
Rose Henderson can be named for the first time after a judge threw out an application for anonymity from the nurse.
Sharon Langridge, an employment judge, ruled last week that there was no evidence for claims that reporting the full name would cause harm.
The nurse, who was born male, lives as a woman but does not have a gender recognition certificate (GRC) and therefore remains a man under the law, a previous hearing was told.
Eight nurses at Darlington Memorial Hospital are suing the County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust, their employer, for sexual discrimination and sexual harassment after Henderson was allowed to use a female changing room.

At a preliminary hearing last month, Simon Cheetham KC, representing the trust, applied for an order to be made that would prevent the reporting of Henderson’s surname because of the “potential risk” of harm.

In a witness statement, Henderson said “horrible” comments made online made “me scared for my own safety”.
The statement also cited media coverage about the case, which it was claimed had been “amplified by extremely high profile individuals” such as JK Rowling.
“I fear that should my anonymity not be protected, this leaves me open to being targeted directly by people online, or potentially in person,” the witness statement read.
Bruno Quintavalle, counsel for the nurses, opposed the anonymity application, arguing that it would prevent the nurses from being able “to tell their own story”.
“It is the claimants’ position… that far from being reduced to a state of fear and concern about his psychological or physical integrity, Rose has responded to the initiation of proceedings by trying to intimidate the nurses,” he said.

Judge Langridge last week ruled that “no specific instances of the ‘horrible comments’ are set out in the witness statement, and no particular events are identified in support of the feeling of being at risk”.

“The statements are unsupported by anything concrete at all,” she said in her judgment.
Judge Langridge added: “Overall, I do not doubt the sincerity of RH’s apprehension about being named in the media and potentially subjected to hostile attention, but it cannot be said that her evidence presents a clear and cogent case for departing from the principle of open justice.
“Some of the anxiety that RH expresses is likely already to be present in her life by the mere existence of the proceedings.”
A full employment tribunal hearing is expected to begin on June 16 at Newcastle Employment Tribunal.

Speaking after the ruling, Bethany Hutchison, president of the Darlington Nursing Union (DNU), said the decision was “an important win on the road to full justice”.
“This is not about Rose and is much bigger than Rose,” she said. “This is about an untenable Stonewall inspired policy used across the NHS which allows men to use female changing rooms if they merely ‘identify’ as a woman.
“This policy puts women at risk, and yet no one in the NHS or the government appears able or prepared to do anything about it, so we have to fight this battle instead.”
Andrea Williams, chief executive of the Christian Legal Centre, said: “Open Justice is a crucial legal principle, especially in such a high-profile case which has huge ongoing public debate, and engagement from the highest levels of government.
“This case is about truth, reality and whether a man can be a woman just because he says so. If we suppress access to open justice and media scrutiny on this case, we suppress the truth.”
I may try to do one of the ongoing saga of the BBC Hamas propaganda later.
 
As important in all this is making little boys ( they aren't men ) that run around and have multiple kids financially responsible. I don't think you'll ever make them properly responsible, but they should be severely financially disincentivised from being a burden on society.
You should reap what you sew - whatever the consequences of your actions are, you have to bear them.
It isn't a question of hating the poor, it's a question of hating people that are irresponsible and think it's clever to burden others.
Yeah, the CSA was supposed to do that. We are forty years on from that project, and the problem is worse than ever. The reality is you can't get milk from a dead cow, and men who have children by second wives merely cried poor because they had more kids than they could support. You won't really make them responsible until failure to meet the actual cost of their children means real consequences, like life imprisonment, no parole. You could in a more energised society try canings or branding, or even indentured manual labour. There's a lot of shit in this country that would be more economically productive if it had zero labour costs. Fruit and vegetable picking, to choose a nice example. No need to bring in immigrants to do that work if the deadbeat fathers of the nation can be forced to do it.

Goes without saying that the punishment for falling behind on the child support is castration. They will remember how to go to work and pay their bills on time when it will cost them their balls. You castrate other animals to restrict their breeding already.

You could get a bit done by refusing any registration of the birth of bastards, mind. No birth certificate, no right to NHS care, no right to attend school, no benefits, no ability to work. Ghost kids. You have to make sure the charities don't get the idea to feed them, though. This scheme was quite successful in urban China. You need to make sure people can't get married a second time though. Make the provider stick with the original family. The Muslims might think about actually contracting legal marriages if this happens.

People get upset when you let the poor infants die of abuse and neglect. Handing the simpletons of the country a grand to get foetus deletus would be much more palatable than letting the toddlers openly starve. You'll have to introduce a yeet payment cap though, same as the child benefit cap. Don't pay for more than two or three yeets a year. You don't want to start a cottage industry. Probably a lifetime cap, three yeets and get your tubes cut. China did well in sterilising its illiterate peasantry.

You won't 'remove handouts' for breeding unless you remove all NHS coverage for obs and gyn and cancel SMP and rights to maternity leave. The abolition of child benefit and no child component to housing ben or universal credit goes without saying. That will work to reduce breeding. Probably a plan to charge for access to schools too. It is possible to prevent the lower classes from reproducing, but it requires a strong commitment that wishy washy people are unlikely to give. A cash bung for each retard flushed is much easier to administer.

I am of the poor. If you don't hate the poor in this country, you don't know enough of them. There is no social policy and no incentive that will make them in any way interested in bettering themselves or their life chances. All that shit has already been tried. Governments of all stripes have been pissing away the wealth of the nation trying to make the poor behave like actual people for a hundred years now, and they are worse and more hopeless than ever. The only way to reduce their drag effect on the UK is to reduce their numbers by whatever means necessary. The poor have no interest in anything but reproducing and pressing whatever button on the wall releases dopamine. Heroin, drink, 'my baybees', social media, anything but being productive labour units. They get stupider year on year as they interbreed. We have actual data to demonstrate this, and continually moving the goalposts on 'attainment' doesn't hide that. We don't need even one more specimen of this dysgenic human waste.

Get rid of 15, 20 million people in the UK, the bottom socio economic quintile, and see how things change in merely thirty or forty years. No great leap forward for a nation state has ever occurred without disposing of the useless eaters.
 
It blatantly is. Starmer has been trying to ride the Ukraine/US fall-out kerfuffle and position himself as a great statesman and a European Leader, but he's too autistic to actually pull it off. It gets him buttpats from twitter and reddit, but punters are still flocking to Reform, even after Farage's repeated attempts to eat his own feet. Whatever good work he might do, he'll still come across as a dullard with a weird voice and a disturbing affection for rich pakistani men.
My conspiracy theory is Farage is a deep establishment plant who is deployed by the intelligence services to bully the Tories into stop being gay and move them back to the right.

His issue is that the Conservatives have fallen so far that his psyops accidentally become genuine parties now and he can’t put the genie back in the bottle.


Are you like ... 50? Or just really into munters? Between this and Kemi, you have awful taste in women.
All those things can be true. And false. They internet is a playground.
 
Get rid of 15, 20 million people in the UK, the bottom socio economic quintile, and see how things change in merely thirty or forty years. No great leap forward for a nation state has ever occurred without disposing of the useless eaters.
But who will cycle ethnic cuisine to my door if we kill the poor?
 
So my absolute schitzo theory.

Blackrock has shored up so much there that if Russia conquers it then that is a shit ton of money lost. Russia wants to create a buffer and installing its own government would maintain that but that government would dictate what goes and this of course would affect its chances. It sounds Tom Clancy I know but I was sussy of covid.
I don't really that's that schitzo, Starmer did partner up with Blackrock, like around the time of the budget
 
Britain is not an especially useful ally,
Then the Americans can remove their bases from our lands, leave Chagos and Cyprus and not share in our intelligence gathering.

If they put tariffs on us, and we reciprocate, we are one of, if not the, only trade country that america deals with, that would come off worse from that.

The yanks don't treat us nicely out of the goodness of their hearts, but because of our reach, our commonwealth and our standing on the international stage. Our PM's may sometimes be mongs, but the powers behind the scenes keep everything in check.

If you want a real life example of this, look no further than the withdrawal of afghanistan. That was the US going solo in a war and it was a disaster.
 
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