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The second Pearl Harbor happened, the integrated Japanese immigrants IMMEDIATELY turned on America when provided even a modicum of pressure to do so. The first example was the Niihau incident, where a crash landed Jap fighter from the Pearl Harbor attack was able to convince two Japanese immigrants to rise up against the Hawaiians that had helped him and were awaiting help from the authorities.

Apparently while this was the only open incident, the studies they did showed that basically all first generation Japanese immigrants would turn on the US with little to no hesitation if they were told that Japan needed them to. Since the US was now at war, they didn't have the luxury of finding out who was or wasn't loyal to their home country.
Japanese interment camp seems pretty logical now.
 
Japanese interment camp seems pretty logical now.
Despite what Progressives would tell you, the people of the past didn't just do stuff the Progressives disagree with because they were irrational stupid racists. The camps made COMPLETE logical sense. The alternative would have been fighting WW2 while dealing with the threat of constant spying and terror attacks from Japanese Americans. In a more brutal era, there would have been no camps, the government would have just shot them all just to be safe.
 
Just a reminder in case anyone takes Newsom seriously about his "no boys in girls sports" lie, his wife founded an organization that shows films in schools that "are saturated with images lifted directly from pornographic websites, their URLs visible onscreen," while also promoting gender ideology and American self-hate. His supposed new centrist viewpoint is a sham.
 
The Japanese treated the Koreans better, but I'm convinced part of why Japan treated the Chinese like subhumans is because they had a front row seat to the bugmen treating each other like bugmen.

The Japanese viewed the Koreans as somewhat closer to them and almost had a kind of respect for them.

The Chinese however were viewed as sub-human so the Rape of Nanking was able to be openly reported on in Japanese newspapers as a righteous military action with the running personal kill totals for two generals who were having a competition being published daily.

Unit 731 was memory-holed by the country even though the stuff that happened there was arguably worse than what happened in the German concentration camps. An entire facility full of people as bad if not worse than Mengle who seemed to just be trying to one-up each other on the cruel shit they could dream up and they didn't feel the slightest bit of remorse because they weren't harming what they would consider to be humans.
 
trying to one-up each other on the cruel shit they could dream up and they didn't feel the slightest bit of remorse because they weren't harming what they would consider to be humans.
The weird thing is when they did it to maoists they were right

Like Lenin, they refused to help their country fight off the attackers and used the fact that honorable men were busy fighting to allow them the cover to begin seizing control.

The Maoists would go on to kill 60,000,000 of their own people and destroy even their souls through one of history’s most extensive buckbreaking campaigns

This resulted in the IRL Fallout faction of retarded mutants existing in post apocalyptic pollution that comprise mainland Chinese today

“Colonel PuPu Pai Gao, shouldn’t we save the women of Nanking from this barbarism?”

-SLAP-

“No, idiot. We stay in these hills and let the loyalists do it”
 
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Libertarianism in America is dead, the LP withdrew their candidate against Trump taking away any credibility they had as an anti establishment party and for what to free one guy who sold drugs online.

Libertarianism in general is dying, as trust erodes in society it is being shown more and more you just need a heavy hand to keep order as seen by Bukele in El Salvador. Economically the modern economy is just more complicated and needs more planning and more things investors can take as given which needs to be guaranteed by the state.

China did everything every libertarian economist swore up and down would not work and guess what it worked great.
Trump killed the LP the first time around, look at the number of votes from 2012 to now, it's insane, especially considering how divisive all the mainstream candidates have been, even among their own parties. The problem is that the divisiveness of Trump was actually a draw to a lot of the Libertarians and it gutted them while at the same time not gaining anybody who was turned off by any candidates. A super unique situation that also happened to kill the party. Libertarian+ vs. Mises caucus was a death rattle and nothing more.
 
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I mean I don't know whether this applies to US president bullshit, but its good to know that every document I have signed by copy/pasting my signature onto it as a PDF is now legally void?

The idea that "pasted signatures invalidate legal documents" is pretty ludicrous depending on the circumstances.

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When Andrew Jackson became President there was a backlog of something like 10,000 land grants awaiting the signature of the President. Each one, individually. I've read anecdotes that claim the vast majority of Jackson's time in the White House was spent personally signing those things and is why so many are available for collectors today. Maybe 3-4 hours every single day of his presidency.
 
Ahhhhhh, isn't it so nice how our immigrants and their children assimilate and join up with the US military?


Why the fuck aren't we charging these fucks with treason and locking them up for the rest of their natural lives?
Why lock them up? Execute them. I don't want more of my taxes wasted keeping some traitors alive.
 
Japanese interment camp seems pretty logical now.
I am not pro Japanese camps or anything, but given the time and fears it was something I'm not surprised happened. You had an entire culture and nation who viewed their emperor as a literal god. I don't think people can fully comprehend that today. Islamic terror is a close analog, but it's still not the same. We have the benefit of modern surveillance technology to help stop those attacks and even then many still occur. Japanese culture was fanatical about the emperor. It was an entire country and closed culture of it. Not just a religion where many different sub groups exist and teachings, where national identity is also not tied into it. You had the worst of both worlds. A suicidal religious cult of a false god emperor combined with that being the national identity and culture.

There would have been attacks and frankly a lot of innocent Japanese Americans would probably have been killed in retaliation by police and citizens. I think the really awful thing is when the people finally were allowed out, their homes and businesses were in many cases gone. The government made a lot of controversial decisions, and it's easy to judge them now, but if you're going to keep a lot of people locked up for national security the least you could do is make sure they still have their homes or business when they get out.

As they say, it was a different time. It's hard to judge it very harshly, I think with modern technology it wouldn't have happened.
 
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Libertarianism in America is dead, the LP withdrew their candidate against Trump taking away any credibility they had as an anti establishment party and for what to free one guy who sold drugs online.

Libertarianism in general is dying, as trust erodes in society it is being shown more and more you just need a heavy hand to keep order as seen by Bukele in El Salvador. Economically the modern economy is just more complicated and needs more planning and more things investors can take as given which needs to be guaranteed by the state.

China did everything every libertarian economist swore up and down would not work and guess what it worked great.
I know you don't want to hear this but Trump is the last thing America needs. We don't need a boomer blustering loudmouth with all bark and no bite

I know you won't want to hear this but America needs a Xi Jing Ping, obviously not Xi Jing Ping himself or even someone with his ideology I mean someone with his temperament. America needs a quiet reformer who makes things happen and is an informed technocrat who dos the work to make the small but meaningful reforms.
Quiet reform won’t work in the US. It’s not very American. Cooperation doesn’t either as seen in 2016.
 
The Maoists would go on to kill 60,000,000 of their own people and destroy even their souls through one of history’s most extensive buckbreaking campaigns
The Chinese claim to have six gorillion years of history when in reality they as a people have existed only for sixty years. The Cultural Revolution shattered that proverbial Ship of Theseus that is a culture, broke the continuity between past and present, eradicated all the historical sites and written texts and cultural shaping, as was its stated goal and actions. The country they live in has however many thousand years, but if we're going by that standard Turkey with Göbekli Tepe or the Fertile Crescent or Egypt have them beat by millennia and even the Australian Aborigine has eerily accurate oral traditions of megafauna they hunted to extinction fifty thousand years before. They consistently cope and sneed about what the cultures that came before them did and achieved, yet their Honored Ancestors never actually did anything of note with what they discovered; instead too busy killing another ten million peasants for some reason or another, a historical pastime of theirs. They lacked drive, entrepreneurial spirit, a desire to do things for the good of others out of nothing but a sense of moral duty, and the Human call to see what lies beyond the horizon, both metaphorical and physical.
Even before all that, the x number historical legacy is cope and sneed as well as there were several completely distinct subsequent civilisations within that landmass. The Chinaman would have you believe they are a great people, but they ape that which came before to which they have no connection, and have never truly achieved a historical great work beyond the most expansive age of human suffering the world had ever seen since perhaps the mongols.
Not much to be proud of.
 
Libertarianism in America is dead, the LP withdrew their candidate against Trump taking away any credibility they had as an anti establishment party and for what to free one guy who sold drugs online.

Libertarianism in general is dying, as trust erodes in society it is being shown more and more you just need a heavy hand to keep order as seen by Bukele in El Salvador. Economically the modern economy is just more complicated and needs more planning and more things investors can take as given which needs to be guaranteed by the state.

China did everything every libertarian economist swore up and down would not work and guess what it worked great.
The "Three Years of Difficulty" worked out great? How about the Sparrow campaign?

Are you sure it isn't you who is buck broken by the Chinese?

The Chinese government is not heavy handed because that is better for Chinese people. They are heavy handed to prevent the reality of their own incompetence and lies from being shown for what they are. In fact, confucian and buddhist tradition are both far more similar to libertarianism than the current ideological perversion of the Chinese state. The current Chinese culture is hollow, materialistic, and goes to great lengths to demean people for being simple people. Their economic achievements are exaggerated by sinophiles. Sinophiles even celebrate the subjugation of Tibet, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. It's like the opposite belief of what a rational person would hold. Sinophiles hate Chinese people and culture, and love the government that at every point degrades those same people.
 
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