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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[GratsTheat783]

Nigel is a snake and a self-flagellating ego-driven prick. He kills everything he touches because he is void of any ideals or moral compass. Lowe was correct and other commentators on YouTube like Lotus-eaters and independents have been saying this for a while, Rupert just said the quiet part.

Ask yourself this How can you be a party about changing the political and cultural establishment AND HAVE A FUCKING MUSLIM AS A CHAIRMAN. I feel this was something Rupert challenged and called lunatic and he was backstabbed because of it.

Farage does not want change and never does, he wants power and now that he is not in Trump's good books he knows that grift in the US is fucked. Reform was his second project and he is pissed that he is not regarded as Jesus. Since Brexit I have disliked this prick and he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. This fucker would be like Starmer and reneg EVERYTHING he promised.

I was going to say about the Civil unrest advisor because I think that shit is coming this year, Southport was merely an echo.

@GratsTheat783 One of the most remotely honest things Starmer has said. Yes, he was doing it for his benefit to sow seeds but he was correct.

How far does his history go back? He only seemed to come to relevance within the past 10 years and he disappeared for several years after Brexit before suddenly popping back up with GB News and Reform. Are there any specific examples of movements he's ruined?

 

[A-Logato]

How far does his history go back? He only seemed to come to relevance within the past 10 years and he disappeared for several years after Brexit before suddenly popping back up with GB News and Reform. Are there any specific examples of movements he's ruined?

He's been around since the 80's but wasn't really important until the 90's, most worthily when he got elected to European parliament in 99. He's also one of UKIP's founding members in 93 and got steadily more relevant off of the Euro sceptics and his spats with the BNP.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Nigger rigging a warhead to a jet is possible but it's hardly as proper deterrence.

These platforms I am referring to were specifically designed to drop nukes and the retrofit to remove the nuclear capability is literally a couple of wiring looms and pushing in a few circuit breakers.
This platform could be loaded with a nuclear warhead and ready to fly within six months, and we have the OG nuke bases ready to go back to being nuclear within that time as well.

 

[Big Judge Cock]

Has anyone else noticed that fewer people obey speed limits in the last few years? I suspect that this is the visible end of people realising that laws only exist if they are enforced.

e: also I agree that no British-focused party can have a muslim involved at all.

 

[Kier Starmer]

Basically, @A-Logato said that once the referendum was being proposed, he popped his head up and started grifting hard. I think he has a current kill count of 2/3 parties. Reform is done after this, so many members are pissed, Reform members tend to be online and more aware. Reddit is pissed and it is sad because they are pretty chill guys but Farage is done.

Reform was the only answer to the UniParty and that is gone. They were a chance of political decorum and resolution without a civil war being the outcome and that is ruined. I think a civil war in this country will be horrific because it will be Muslims vs all others but it will be street fighting and firebombing. The main cities will become blood-bathed and damage to our cultural infrastructure will be irreparable.

I do not like thinking like this because I am optimistic usually but I am a realist, my career means I have to be. As for the speed limits, I noticed this too walking back from my shop I saw 20-odd people speeding in minutes. I think our police force is cooked btw. I know a few coppers who are decent and they said morale is in the gutter and they get asked to investigate the most inane shit. When anything serious comes along they do not have the numbers or expertise to investigate.

 

[Turquoise]

My uncle is in desperate need of a liver transplant (without one he is dead within a year) and the specialist hospital is in Birmingham, he went there some time ago for some blood tests and had to go back the other day top get the results, in order to get there on time he has to leave south-west Wales at 3AM and when he did it turns out the SPECIALIST hospital did the wrong blood tests.

British healthcare best in the world!

Are you telling me there are communication problems between the Filipino nurses who are doing 13 hour shifts, the affirmative action Nigerian doctors and the pig ignorant receptionists who are scrolling Tiktok?

 

[Tzeentch]

In light of Farage's scumfuckery, here are some memes to cheer you up a bit.





Also Ben Habib called this ages ago. Knew Farage would find a way to fuck all of this up. I know next to nothing about Homeland, they seem to have come out of nowhere which makes me a bit suspicious, but I have a feeling I will soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP-jcJzGYC0

Homeland has posted their response.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

We are the best country in the world at right-wing containment.

Not just right-wing. Immigration being used to undercut wages used to be a left talking point not that long ago, our establishment is more than capable of handling any threat to it no matter the political origin of it.

 

[teriyakiburns]

High up Britcuck advisor to the US is saying civil war is less then 5 years away in Britbongistan.

The stats about Denmark and Sweden were fascinating. I never would have expected it from Sweden especially, but the way they were pilloried by the world during the rona shit seems to have given them a harsh dose of reality. That's when Sweden really started reversing its stance on a multitude of issues, IIRC.

 

[Kier Starmer]

I think the economic element is going to be the powder keg. Betz is on the ball and the government is terrified of him because he is very experienced in this area.

We are too far gone, the rot is encapsulated around the timber. I do agree if we destroy places like Savile or Rotherham (large ghettos) it would send a message.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

I don’t want to see the UK (or continental Europe) fall to the migrant hordes.

I think the economic element is going to be the powder keg. Betz is on the ball and the government is terrified of him because he is very experienced in this area.

We are too far gone, the rot is encapsulated around the timber. I do agree if we destroy places like Savile or Rotherham (large ghettos) it would send a message.

I agree. It’s all demographics. The problem with immigration is that it’s not adding more workers and producers but rather more dependents. It’s acting not as a bulwark against decline but as a catalyst.

 

[The Gene Genie]

How far does his history go back? He only seemed to come to relevance within the past 10 years and he disappeared for several years after Brexit before suddenly popping back up with GB News and Reform. Are there any specific examples of movements he's ruined?

He's the most shameless grifter currently in politics as his whole modus operandi is to co-opt genuine resentment and desire for change, and completely drop the ball in the home stretch. You'd think that, being an MEP whose only job seemed to be to rail viciously at Brussels and make a spectacle of himself and the European Parliament, leaving the EU would be the seminal moment of his career and he would be leading the charge with Brexit. But there's a reason why he dropped off after Brexit: because he never wanted it to win. Brexit fucked his plans up, if anything, to be an incorrigible worm in the European Parliament but collect a nice pension once he retired. Part of the reason, in my opinion anyway, why Brexit failed is because not a single fucking person involved - Cameron obviously, but BoJo and Farage as well - wanted it to actually happen. Everyone thought it would be defeated and they could parlay that defeat into political/grift wins down the line.

 

[Welsh Catgirl Enjoyer]

I think the economic element is going to be the powder keg. Betz is on the ball and the government is terrified of him because he is very experienced in this area.

We are too far gone, the rot is encapsulated around the timber. I do agree if we destroy places like Savile or Rotherham (large ghettos) it would send a message.

This makes me wonder what is in the future for immigration-critical sentiment in the UK. Because I'm looking at what's went down today with Reform and I fear that Farage's power-grab may have caused the last domino to fall.

If people cannot rely upon parliament and politics, to the point that they have no party representing them anymore. Where do they go from there? One route is to resign to nihilism, to just go "everything sucks and things will never go how I want" and either laugh it off or just wallow in it. The other route, well, you can put two-and-two together and figure what I mean there, but that's a route that I fear most of all.

The UK right now, imo, is a pressure cooker. With the establishment and elites turning up the heat, somehow pushing things further and further even though we're barely hanging on. If people think the Southport Riots are bad, they're just a taster. And the longer things go without descending into chaos, the worse it gets when it finally does.

Maybe it's a bit hyperbolic, but I could see total societal collapse within the UK within the next 10 years. And while some might think of that as a good thing since it will wipe the board clean of the current issues we have, it also puts us into an extremely volatile state where nobody can predict how society will be rebuilt afterwards. We could end up in a much worse state, so bad that we can't even predict how bad it is right now.

 

[SmugAutist]

Maybe it's a bit hyperbolic, but I could see total societal collapse within the UK within the next 10 years. And while some might think of that as a good thing since it will wipe the board clean of the current issues we have, it also puts us into an extremely volatile state where nobody can predict how society will be rebuilt afterwards. We could end up in a much worse state, so bad that we can't even predict how bad it is right now.

My ignorant burger view is that Brits tend to be the most complacent of all the peoples in Europe. I don't really think this will lead to anything other than resentment and maybe voting for the opposite party only to have the same thing happen again. The Brits that have any kind of prospects all move outside of the UK for a better life elsewhere in Europe, America, or other Anglosphere countries. I would sooner put stock on Germany and Sweden uncucking than the good ol' Yookay.

 

[-Jack-]

I have never understood the appeal of the reform party, they just seem like a bunch of grifters similar to the MAGA lot. It’s ironic that the chairman is also a fucking sand-nigger muslim.

They have never had any integrity-Nigel, MP for Clacton? Re-elected? I guess the sewage water has gotten worse over there and made them all a bunch of retarded inbreds.

 

[Drihten]

I have never understood the appeal of the reform party, they just seem like a bunch of grifters similar to the MAGA lot. It’s ironic that the chairman is also a fucking sand-nigger muslim.

They have never had any integrity-Nigel, MP for Clacton? Re-elected? I guess the sewage water has gotten worse over there and made them all a bunch of retarded inbreds.

Unfortunately, while Nigel is a grifter, he also has a bit of gravitas to him and says all the right things to boomers. Combine that with everyone else cocking things up or being complete nobodies, he was bound to be an MP.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Can we pause for a moment to reflect on how blessed Labour must be feeling?

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Independent writes an article shrieking that we do not worship American celebrities enough.

https://archive.ph/QEyPG

There’s a moment in the latest episode of The Rest Is Entertainment, Richard Osman and Marina Hyde’s phenomenally successful pop culture podcast, that’s been kicking up a minor stir on social media. Osman, the TV game-show presenter and writer of lucrative “cozy crime” novels, is discussing this year’s Oscars, and the supposed lack of interest among the British public. “You look at the Best Actor and Best Actress winners, Adrien Brody and Mikey Madison,” he says. “If you were watching any British chat show and they were on, you would probably switch over. You would probably think, ‘I wish this was Sara Pascoe and Greg Davies.’”

At the time of writing, this 14-second clip has been viewed nearly half a million times and the responses have been nothing short of indignant. One prominent tweet branded Osman an “imbecile”. Others expressed incredulity that anyone could look at the state of television – a medium that is, let’s face it, sated with so much Greg Davies that it could burst – and demand more Greg Davies.


To be fair to Osman, his remarks were taken slightly out of context: elsewhere in the episode (titled “Is It Time to Yell ‘Cut’ on the Oscars?”), the House of Games host praises Madison, and the film she’s in, Anora – also commending other Best Picture nominees. He nonetheless brands the majority of these films “niche” and “arthouse”, with both him and Hyde questioning the relevance of the Oscars to modern (British) audiences. Here’s the thing: he’s not entirely wrong.

I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who would baulk at the idea of watching actors such as Madison and Brody – the latter admittedly a man with a pretty rebarbative vibe, as his interminable speech reminded everyone – on British TV. And there are plenty of people, too, who must be clamouring for more of British TV’s genial ubiquitists – the Pascoes and Davieses; the James Acasters; the Rob Becketts. There’s a reason they are so sought-after: people do tune in to watch them. But even though Osman’s premise is accurate, his conclusions surely aren’t justified. The criticism ought not be directed at the far-flung, anti-populist Oscars, but at our own lack of national discernment.

The fact is, there’s something profoundly insular and incurious about the British approach to celebrity culture. We have created our fair share of great and deservedly famous celebrities, of course. (Though some of the biggest filmmakers, such as Christopher Nolan, had to find success abroad after being given the cold shoulder in the UK, and many of the best directors who remained – Mike Leigh, or Shane Meadows for instance – have never truly been embraced by the mainstream.)

To become a mainstay on British TV, exceptional talent is never a requirement: you need only be affable, vaguely amusing, and politically inoffensive. You can be talented, too – Pascoe and Davies are skilled at what they do, and this is not to disparage them creatively – but often, all that’s demanded is a sort of baseline, familiar competence.


Incidentally, it is exactly this sensibility that propelled Osman from his position as Alexander Armstrong’s desk-jockey sidekick on Pointless to a national treasure-in-waiting. In the spheres of TV (and podcast) presenting and the writing of pulpy genre novels, Osman has proved himself unflaggingly capable – but was he ever brilliant at anything? Brilliant in a way that would explain his rise to the upper echelons of the British media sphere? He has become a household name, a fixture of the broadcasting world, through the force of his sheer competence.

Osman’s remarks might be fair. They might be accurate. But our country’s Brit-centric attitude to celebrity culture only serves to limit our horizons. It shouldn’t be catered to, but resisted. And, ultimately, the work itself will endure: 50 years from now, there will still be people watching The Brutalist. But Richard Osman’s House of Games? I’m not so sure. And if that sounds like comparing apples and oranges to you – well, yes. That’s rather the point.

 

[teriyakiburns]

My ignorant burger view is that Brits tend to be the most complacent of all the peoples in Europe.

Not complacent, but rather long-suffering. The English have a tendency to wait and hope for someone to fix a problem, then suddenly explode into action all at once when it becomes clear nobody else is going to do it. The reason why there has been relatively little political violence here, compared to the rest of Europe, is because we used to be ruled by people who paid attention and noticed when the population became quiet and watchful, and responded accordingly to at least appear to address their worries.

That changed in the 60s or so, when a new breed of technocrat ascended to implement vast social and economic change, regardless of the desires of the people. For a while they were tolerated, as much of the change appeared small and life did seem to improve, especially through the 80s and 90s, but the resentments have built up over the years and have finally come due.

Last summer was just a foretaste. Starmer thinks he's crushed the opposition, but all he's done is confirm that there's nobody in charge willing to listen. People went quiet and were willing to wait for an opportunity to kick him out, placing their hopes on the rise of an alternative to the established parties, but now farage has cocked it.

If Starmer is ousted this year as I've hoped, they might be able to pull back from the brink, at least for a while. Otherwise, I feel there will be widespread, possibly violent unrest by the end of the year.

 

[FedPostalService]

Basically, @A-Logato said that once the referendum was being proposed, he popped his head up and started grifting hard. I think he has a current kill count of 2/3 parties. Reform is done after this, so many members are pissed, Reform members tend to be online and more aware. Reddit is pissed and it is sad because they are pretty chill guys but Farage is done.

Reform was the only answer to the UniParty and that is gone. They were a chance of political decorum and resolution without a civil war being the outcome and that is ruined. I think a civil war in this country will be horrific because it will be Muslims vs all others but it will be street fighting and firebombing. The main cities will become blood-bathed and damage to our cultural infrastructure will be irreparable.

I do not like thinking like this because I am optimistic usually but I am a realist, my career means I have to be. As for the speed limits, I noticed this too walking back from my shop I saw 20-odd people speeding in minutes. I think our police force is cooked btw. I know a few coppers who are decent and they said morale is in the gutter and they get asked to investigate the most inane shit. When anything serious comes along they do not have the numbers or expertise to investigate.

He left UKIP and we all forgot how they were on the verge of becoming a real party and winning massively in the European elections until he started the vanity Brexit party, stole the line light, and the media turned the whole election into it being wrong to not want to rape Jess Philips.

He’ll leave Reform and set up another party to split the populist right vote and nudge the Tories when the establishment need him too.

The danger is there will be so many factions on the right Labour will keep winning elections forever.

The only real current hope is the Tories stop being faggy neo-liberals, merge with Reform and someone pays Farrage to fuck off and keep way from the media.