Culture Pixar’s ‘Win or Lose’ features Disney’s first openly Christian character in nearly two decades - Sorry for all the tranny shit, here’s a token PoC (Parishioner of Christ)

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Pixar’s “Win or Lose” features Disney’s first openly Christian character in nearly two decades after removing a transgender character. Pixar Animation Studios

Win or Lose,” Pixar’s first original series not based on an existing intellectual property, has something not seen in the Disney universe in nearly two decades: a distinctively Christian character.

In fact, the series about a championship youth softball tournament begins with a prayer. The first of the eight episodes opens with Laurie, a young girl struggling with self-confidence, alone on the bench, her hands clasped in prayer.

“Dear Heavenly Father, please give me strength,” Laurie says. “I have faith, but sometimes the doubt creeps in. … I just want to catch a ball or get a hit — for my team, of course.”

That simple prayer is the first Christian reference in a Disney film since the “Bridge to Terabithia” (2007), a live-action film which featured two children attending church together and discussing religion on their trip home, according to WDW News Today, a website dedicated to reporting news about Disney’s theme parks.

Disney is the parent company of Pixar, which is based in Emeryville.
The inclusion of a Christian character stands in contrast to Pixar’s decision to redact a transgender storyline from “Win or Lose” during the series’ production, a move revealed by the Hollywood Reporter in December.

“When it comes to animated content for a younger audience, we recognize that many parents would prefer to discuss certain subjects with their children on their own terms and timeline,” Disney said in a statement about the edited storyline.

“Win or Lose,” written and directed by Pixar veterans Carrie Hobson and Michael Yates, explores the challenges and bursting emotions of children and adults navigating this most complex world. Each of the eight episodes focuses on a different character, with every episode culminating in the championship game.

Although “Win or Lose” was completed before Donald Trump became president for the second time, Hobson commented on the pressures many creatives feel during these culturally divisive times.
“My mission is just the same as it has always been, which is just try to speak authentically,” Hobson said. “To me, stories spark conversation. That’s the power of storytelling.”

“Win or Lose” debuted on Disney+ on Feb. 19. Episodes 5 and 6 drop on Wednesday, March 5, followed by the release of its final episodes 7 and 8 on March 12.

Reach G. Allen Johnson: ajohnson@sfchronicle.com
 
It has a sort of churchy atmosphere despite clearly taking place during a softball game.
I kinda like that, ngl. Doubt it was intentional but kinda points to something I was always taught; that a church is the people, not the place. The one I used to go to started out under a tree in the 1700s.

"For wherever two or three gather in my name, there I am in their midst."
Matthew 18:20
 
That simple prayer is the first Christian reference in a Disney film since the “Bridge to Terabithia” (2007), a live-action film which featured two children attending church together and discussing religion on their trip home, according to WDW News Today, a website dedicated to reporting news about Disney’s theme parks.
Wasn't that movie super blasphemous? I remember people I knew back when I went to church saying it was way back in the day.
 
Wasn't that movie super blasphemous? I remember people I knew back when I went to church saying it was way back in the day.
Isn’t a Christian themed work being interpreted as both faithful and heretical at the same time the most Christian thing of all? They can never agree on anything beyond what is literally stated to have happened in the Bible. Everything else is the cause of several thousand schisms.
 
Completely unrelated to anything other than my loathing of nu-speak and $CURRENT_YEAR trends, but hearing/reading something being described as "$ADJECTIVE coded" has always made my eyebrow twitch and/or elicit an annoyed grumble from me.
You know what they say, fellow oldtroon: "the strongest trees bend with the wind."
 
Huh. How many openly and identifiable Muslim characters have been on Disney since then? Granted, the hijab makes it easier to signal without including any prayer or anything else religious.

Okay, maybe I’m adding Cartoon Network’s characters into the mix. I know Craig of the Creek has a hijab girl

Miss Marvel was explicitly a Muslim character from a Muslim family. An imam was a recurring character and there were several scenes inside a mosque.

There is also a hijabi character in that Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur cartoon (which also featured a trans character playing in an all girls volleyball team).
 
Still not giving you money, fuck you Disney.
This blatant pandering makes me more sick than if they just stuck with it. They pushed this fucking nonsense for a decade or more, and for what? Just to throw it all away when they finally got it through their thick skulls that this shit is unprofitable cancer? That the pendulum was swinging back? Fuck you.
 
Okay, that subtitle in the thread made me laugh. Good one.

This blatant pandering makes me more sick than if they just stuck with it. They pushed this fucking nonsense for a decade or more, and for what? Just to throw it all away when they finally got it through their thick skulls that this shit is unprofitable cancer? That the pendulum was swinging back? Fuck you.
I'm sure there's actual Christian entertainment that they could watch.
 
Wasn't that movie super blasphemous? I remember people I knew back when I went to church saying it was way back in the day.
There isn't a ton of religion in it, just a few lines of dialogue. (Maybe there's more in the book, I haven't read it.) The main character's family goes to church. His best friend who is being raised by free-spirited artists comes along one day. They're maybe ten or eleven years old. It's been a long time since I've seen it but I don't think they show the church, they're just talking on the ride home in the bed of the truck. His little sister says something like since his friend's not baptized she's going to go to hell after she dies, and the friend says she doesn't believe that, she doesn't think god would send good people to hell.

This becomes very relevant later because spoiler alert she dies and the main character is in the depths of grief (and feeling responsible for her death). At probably his lowest point, he asks his dad if he thinks she will go to hell, and his dad reassures his sobbing child that god has mercy and wouldn't damn an innocent little girl who was basically sunshine personified. The scene with his dad is about more than that though. They have a strained relationship and it's a big moment where they're both crying and emotionally vulnerable and his dad shows a softer side in comforting him.

The story is about a kid having to process the sudden death of his only friend. The afterlife becoming real and immediate, pondering his faith, asking the "big questions" are appropriate. I think the brief exchanges are human, not preachy either direction, and nuanced enough for its intended late elementary/middle school audience. The hell question is only one small facet of him processing too--The focus is more on him trying to honor her memory, connect with other people, move forward in a constructive way, and seeing how other people respond to her death in different ways. Personally I think someone would have to be pretty sensitive to call the movie super blasphemous and get their tits flapping over it.
 
Just to throw it all away when they finally got it through their thick skulls that this shit is unprofitable cancer? That the pendulum was swinging back? Fuck you.
Make no mistake, they knew full well it was on the decline, and execs very well probably have their own opinions on it behind closed doors, but they won't jump ship until it stands to go from a +$0.01 bump in their checks to a penny less. It's in their best interest to min-max popular appeal to squeeze out the greater number of shekels. They aren't retards who just finally got it. It's just finally more convenient.
 
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