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Should be a wild four years.

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So are we going to go through a constant loop of announce tariffs then delay for the next 4 years? Grow some fucking balls and just do it.
the will-they-won't-they of the tariffs have been equally (and possibly more) destructive as it forces companies to cut down plans and projects until the ambiguity is cleared up.
 
the will-they-won't-they of the tariffs have been equally (and possibly more) destructive as it forces companies to cut down plans and projects until the ambiguity is cleared up.
That's even worse. nobody is going to invest in us if our word has zero meaning.

This administration has been just a bunch of half assing and inconsistency. The only thing they're succeeding at, which I'm happy about, are the deportations and that needs to get kicked up too. If we're going to stand up and burn these leeches off then fucking do it. I can't get an AMD card anyway so crank that tariff dial all the way the fuck up.
 
I don't know if this belongs in the Reddit Community Watch thread or here. I'm just gonna play it safe since it's politics. Anyway this was one of the top posts on r/Politics. 4000 comments
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What a goofy Orangeman, he wants move the Declaration of Independence to White House when it always has had a public site for all to see. I wonder why no other news is reporting on it? Oh it's from some no name site called Latintimes.com. But to be fair to Latintimes they got it from The Atlantic. I wonder how the Atlantic learned of such an absurd story.
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Oh, oh. It's anonymous sources. So we just have to believe the Atlantic or these people. Well I wonder if Reddit can just laugh at the silly story that will without a doubt amount to nothing. Maybe make jokes about how Trump is going to get Nicolas Cage to find the secret US Fortune? Let's see a top comment.
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My conclusion: A portion Reddit Liberals are driving themselves fucking insane. In terms of bullshit I see little difference and say Obama-era Infowars when Alex Jones would rant and rave about how we were all going to be genocided in FEMA death camps. Political ecochambers are without a doubt a danger.
At least Jones was going off photos of hundreds of plastic coffins, not "anonymous source says 'genocide'."
 
I find it funny when people always act like Germans are all about efficiency when this was the country where philosophical romanticism was all the rage.

It's because they live next door to the French, upstairs from the Italians, and across the street from the Russians. They're the smartest kid in retard school.
 
...No, I don't think so? I'm saying they essentially got cornered, but escaped across a river thanks to what seems like miraculous circumstances. Is there some kind of alternative meaning to kamikaze you're using here? I'm a bit confused.
They might be referring to the historical kamikaze, where a Mongol invasion force was twice stopped by random typhoons right before landing in Japan.
 
Iirc some of the novels mention that only the core areas of the Federation are a cashless utopia because setting up a planetary energy grid capable of supporting billions of replicators is beyond the means of a lot of colonies.
a colony doesn't need a whole planetary grid, and with star trek tech you could probably power it with a reactor in your pocket.

part of star trek's utopia is that they literally have everything they need, they can live anywhere and still be at their desk 5 minutes later thanks to teleportation, can cheaply move goods around from everywhere whenever, if they don't just replicate it on the spot.
so what else is left than personal improvement? star trek probably has neets, but then again if even neets have everything they'd want, shit would get boring fast.

Neil is also a, what is that faggot term they use "credibly accused" of sexual assault by four different women.
- some shit from the literal 80's
- one time moving cloth to look at a tattoo (which she didn't even qualify as assault herself)
- one time a pickup went poorly which apparently "made her quit" (lol wtf)
- trying to score while drunk

getting annoyed by science negro is one thing, but this is probably one of the most retarded attempts at #metoo I've seen
 
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...No, I don't think so? I'm saying they essentially got cornered, but escaped across a river thanks to what seems like miraculous circumstances. Is there some kind of alternative meaning to kamikaze you're using here? I'm a bit confused.
iirc before it meant "yeet yourself into the enemy" it referred to the divine (kami) wind (kaze) what changed the course of the legendary battle of Suchandsuch
 
That's even worse. nobody is going to invest in us if our word has zero meaning.

This administration has been just a bunch of half assing and inconsistency. The only thing they're succeeding at, which I'm happy about, are the deportations and that needs to get kicked up too. If we're going to stand up and burn these leeches off then fucking do it. I can't get an AMD card anyway so crank that tariff dial all the way the fuck up.
The benefit of America is built-in: security, stable government, impossibility of the treasury going bankrupt, nobody fucking with them in a war, etc. The drawbacks are expense, and simply threatening tariffs is enough to make companies ignore that benefit, because having to spend money to get out of a shithole that you only went there for a few cents is a huge blunder that nobody is going to want to eat in a shareholder meeting. Uncertainty hurts the other countries more than it hurts America and we are already seeing the results.
 
ActBlue has survived dozens of scandals including being the main fundraising arm of the BLM riots. If that didn't ruin them, I don't know what will. Half their "donors" are just people that donated a few dollars at one point in time and are now having their information stolen and used to launder money to the DNC.
They've had a friendly DOJ in place the whole time. That's changed.
 
These mongrels keep trying to push the lie that Trump and Musk are secret enemies. It's the definition of "wishcasting." They tried this shit in 2016 with media whisper campaigns and it seems they're going to triple down on it now. This article literally mentions Trump denying this whisper campaign, but the article's authors refuse to believe it or mention the whole room laughing at the reporter pushing this bullshit whisper campaign.

"Trump shifts tone on Musk as tensions rise with Cabinet" (archive)
President Trump is signaling a softer approach to the mass firings of federal government workers led by Elon Musk as cracks emerge between the tech billionaire and Cabinet secretaries running the agencies he’s gutting.

Musk’s swift and wide-ranging cost-cutting efforts have been met with pushback from some in Washington, who have complained behind-the-scenes about the Department of Government Efficiency’s (DOGE) upending of norms.

Trump’s shift in tone emerged this week when he stressed that his Cabinet secretaries take the lead on staffing choices, insisting that cuts be made with a “scalpel” instead of a “hatchet.”

That came after a contentious meeting Thursday attended by Trump, Cabinet secretaries and Musk at the White House, which was followed by an explosive report in the New York Times about clashes between Musk and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

Trump blew off a question about friction between Musk and Rubio when a reporter asked him to weigh in from the Oval Office after the Times report published.

But his response earlier this week stressing that his Cabinet secretaries take the lead in making what he deems appropriate cuts to federal agencies signals some potential pushback from his secretaries as to how Musk has been handling things.

Still, the president left the door open for Musk to take the reins back, telling his Cabinet that if they didn’t make the right cuts, then the Tesla CEO would.

“At some level, Musk has been a little bit callous in the presentation. And then when you talk about veterans across the country, disabled vets, people like that, losing their jobs, at some point that stuff starts to take hold,” a source close to Trump world said.

“You got to execute with a little more precision and more with a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer. Now Trump may not care, right? Because they think they can win the larger victory just by doing it. It comes down to the personality base… and the personal stories,” the source said.

A former Trump official suggested the president’s shift in tone was an acknowledgment of the political and legal scrutiny toward DOGE that has ramped up in recent weeks. The official noted that Thursday’s Cabinet meeting took place behind closed doors, where it could be more candid than the on-camera gathering last week that was dominated by Musk.

In a clear sign of tension, Musk called out Rubio in the second meeting for not firing enough people from his department The New York Times reported.

Rubio has reportedly been furious with Musk for weeks since his team closed down the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) and during the spat, Musk suggested Rubio was only good for television before Trump stepped in to commend his secretary of state’s work and suggest everyone work together.

When Trump was asked about the reported clash, he said, “no clash, I was there.”

“Elon gets along great with Marco and they’re both doing a fantastic job,” he said, later adding, “Marco has done unbelievably as Secretary of State. And Elon is a unique guy and has done a fantastic job.”

Secretary of Veterans Affairs Doug Collins also reportedly said in that meeting that cuts have to be more strategic, with Trump agreeing with him. Collins, in an op-ed in The Hill, stressed the importance of supporting veterans and said his agency “is conducting a department-wide review of its organization, operations and structure” in response to the DOGE workforce initiative from Trump.

Musk wore a suit during the meeting, a subtle but noticeable change from the “Tech Support” T-shirt and black MAGA hat he wore during a previous Cabinet meeting.

Press secretary Karoline Leavitt called it a “great and productive meeting,” but did not directly address the reported disagreements.

“Everyone is working as one team to help President Trump deliver on his promise to make our government more efficient,” Leavitt said in a statement.

Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy on Friday expressed his support for Musk directly, as well as Trump’s “approach” to working with him.

“The President’s approach of a scalpel versus a hatchet and better coordination between Secretaries and DOGE is the right approach to revolutionizing the way our government is run. @USDOT will continue to work closely with @elonmusk,” Duffy said on X.

Aside from the heat emanating from the Cabinet, the administration’s work to cut waste from the government has faced its biggest roadblocks through the courts.

A coalition of unions representing federal employees sued last month over efforts to conduct mass layoffs across the government. A federal judge this week ordered the administration to release payments to contractors and nonprofits connected to USAID, which has been hardest hit by Musk’s efforts to slash spending.

On Capitol Hill, Republican senators told Musk this week that his aggressive moves to shrink the federal government will need a vote by Congress, with lawmakers seemingly irked at being bypassed.

Republican senators have taken particular issue with thousands of firings planned at the Department of Veterans Affairs and layoffs of federal employees that have affected veterans in particular.

“There’s a real separation between, USAID is funding a transgender puppet show in Kuwait versus we’re giving life saving medicine in Sub Saharan Africa or we’re helping children who are getting literally pouches of peanut butter not starve to death. I think even the most cynical Americans think that, okay, we have some role in that,” the source close to Trump world said.

Trump’s comments also bring his public rhetoric more in line with the White House’s assertion in court filings that Musk is not the administrator of DOGE and does not have the authority to make policy decisions on his own.

And, they build on an executive order Trump signed last week, directing agency leaders to work with DOGE staff and look at contracts, employee travel and other areas, as well as build a centralized system to record every payment.

Despite the shifts in guidance around handling Musk, Democrats, unions and activists are expected to keep up their pushback on the billionaire’s work for Trump, including the host of Democratic attorneys generals who are plaintiffs in several lawsuits against the administration.

Senate Democrats this week asked the Department of Justice to investigate whether Musk is leveraging his government position to pressure advertisers into spending more on his social media platform, X.

Critics say though that putting Cabinet secretaries in charge over Musk doesn’t mean the legal issues will stop.

“Unfortunately, closing the barn door after the horse has bolted does no good,” said Norm Eisen, executive chair of State Democracy Defenders Fund, which has represented plaintiffs in a complaint that Musk’s actions are in violation of the Constitution because he is not Senate-confirmed.

“In fact, this attempted backtrack is an admission that the vast chaos that Musk and DOGE have wrought without proper approval and documentation is illegal— and so must be completely unwound.”
 
I don't know if this belongs in the Reddit Community Watch thread or here. I'm just gonna play it safe since it's politics. Anyway this was one of the top posts on r/Politics. 4000 comments
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What a goofy Orangeman, he wants move the Declaration of Independence to White House when it always has had a public site for all to see. I wonder why no other news is reporting on it? Oh it's from some no name site called Latintimes.com. But to be fair to Latintimes they got it from The Atlantic. I wonder how the Atlantic learned of such an absurd story.
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Oh, oh. It's anonymous sources. So we just have to believe the Atlantic or these people. Well I wonder if Reddit can just laugh at the silly story that will without a doubt amount to nothing. Maybe make jokes about how Trump is going to get Nicolas Cage to find the secret US Fortune? Let's see a top comment.
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My conclusion: A portion Reddit Liberals are driving themselves fucking insane. In terms of bullshit I see little difference and say Obama-era Infowars when Alex Jones would rant and rave about how we were all going to be genocided in FEMA death camps. Political ecochambers are without a doubt a danger.
Its crazy becuase there seemed to bea biy pushback with the legitimacy with these articals earlier around February however the comment sections gets drown with these shouting matches. However They are becoming more and more easy to debunked. These writers are literally pulling crap out of thier ass. I sometimes wonder if these writers or moderators secretly love trump becuase how easy it is to just lazily write some crap down with trump being on it. None the less i think its fine to see this becuase the independent party will see how insane the the democractic party have gotten. The more TDS the better it is for the midterms. I swear if the senators all dropped the tranny BS they would have a better chance. Yet they are literally doing what the trannies do all the time when they realize theirs nothing left to do, kill themselves. Yet they could just own up, said they could compromise and focus on the nation and the vision of the american people that voted for trump. Yet thatll never happen becuase that requires humility which no politicians have.
 
They might be referring to the historical kamikaze, where a Mongol invasion force was twice stopped by random typhoons right before landing in Japan.

From my incredibly limited knowledge of Japanese you are correct because in this context "kami-kaze" is pretty much "god-wind".

The Japanese of the era saw typhoons are a protective force for the country.
 
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