Avowed - Obsidian's new game, like Pillars of Eternity meets Elder Scrolls

Come on don't make one of our boys dirty like that man, poor fucker is already stuck with a bitch
Can't really blame me, though. Twinkish looking elf that lacks a backbone, was abused by his dad until a girlboss schizo voice took over his body and made the problem go away. The tranny fantasy writes itself. Thankfully, you can go the sane route and tell him he needs to grow a pair instead of feeding into that delusion and it just works. If you were forced to affirm Iselmyr, he'd be a worse written character.
The game was written in 2016-2017, so the poz was not as developed and obvious as we can see it nowadays, my main gripe with the sequel is that, it's just a downgrade from the original, when it comes to mechanics, classes and (to a certaint extent) story.
I'd argue that some of the mechanics and new class system were actually better, the issue was that a lot of the content was worse. The first game had better paced encounters, the second game's difficulty abruptly takes a complete nosedive and there's so much more filler in comparison. I never ended up fully beating it because I started getting bored with the shit they threw at me. I was just about done with all the faction quests before the final main quest when I just couldn't justify slogging through it anymore.
 
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The message is strong in this game, but it seems more feminist-y than it does tranny and 'white man bad', so i suppose that it could be much worse.
Mark my words, the entirety of western entertainment, games especially, is going to become super feminist in the coming years to the point people would miss the trannies because at least you could shittalk them easily. The media is already trying to signal boost the S. Korean feminist death cult.
 
I've been looking for these simple questions since the game came out and haven't found an answer til just now, I appreciate it. I still won't play it, and even before all the woke controversy didn't plan on playing because I didn't like the switch from CRPG to first person. But I was really curious how/if the story would continue after the ending of Pillars 2.

Also I completely agree with the music, Pillars 1 and 2 has some of the most amazing OST's of any games I've ever played. I gave the Avowed OST a listen the other day and its generic forgettable fantasy slop.
I'll give you the TLDR Sparknotes of the story if you're interested but don't feel like playing. Spoilers to those who care, do avert your eyes.
POST DEADFIRE
1. Three years after "That Eothas Incident in Deadfire"
2. Canon route seems like the one where you go into Ukaizo with your fully upgraded ship and did not side with any faction at all.
3. A lot of researchers flood Ukaizo to research, in game lore books in Avowed state that much.
4. People in Living Lands are given contradicting reports to what truly happened, all they really know is "Eothas walked to Ukaizo and fell there"
5. Nobody seems to know that The Wheel is destroyed; people still commonly refer to it as if nothing happened.
6. A more important thing however; after the Eothas Incident, roughly 99% of all Godlikes got some sort of "Calling" being told by their patron God to go somewhere. They never said where and never and were never seen again.
7. The fate/activities of previous party members are never mentioned except for Tekehu; he didn't listen to the call and is happily the lead priest of the Huana.
8. The Watcher is not mentioned, however their flag is planted in Living Lands which indicates he/she was there for one reason or another.
9. Lastly, the Gods have been silent. Zero interventions or appearances after Deadfire.

AVOWED PREMISE
1. You're an Envoy, basically the Aedyrn Emperor's personal right hand man. You're a Godlike, however nobody can't identify which God you rep. Also, your God doesn't speak to you unlike any normal Godlike.
2. He wants you to investigation the "Dreamscourge" TL;DR it's a fungal virus that turns people into plant zombies and have weird schizo dreams. Think Morrowind Corpus
3. Living Lands is basically Australia, there's three major factions there which are all expats from Aedyr, Rautai, and Valian Republics. Mostly criminals or scientists who want to be left alone
4. Aedyr wants to colonize it; story gives you the option to colonize it, make it a protectorate, or to form a independent government.
5. The Aedyr hired the Steel Garrotes to be the vanguard of the colony project.
6. Steel Garrote are the ones from Deadfire, crazy Woedica fanatical Paladins
6a. The leader of the Steel Garrotes is Inquisitor Lödwyn. Remember that side quest in Deadfire where you stop her from killing that elf who was actually a Dyrwood founder? Same woman. Watcher canonically kills her and Woedica revived her as a Deathguard.
7. There's something interesting about the Living Lands; the Engwithian Gods have never interacted there and the Adra has no connection or leyline to them.
8. But......the Adra do have a connection to one God, one we never heard of, Sapadal.
9. Sapadal is unlike the Engwithian Gods and might be an actual God, unlike the ancient Engwith project. A nature God tldr.
10. When Woedica found out about her, she reeee'd and went full blown shutitdown.jpg
10a. Sapadal is so powerful that all the Engwith Gods couldn't beat her even combined, so they instead killed all her worshippers, burnt every book or memory of her and then lastly sealed her.
10b. Post Deadfire, you only speak to Woedica who asks you to kill Sapadal. She has so little power left that all she can do is talk, and basically nothing else. She doesn't even have a form left. All the other gods implied to have withered post Deadfire.
Bonus- In Avowed you only ever meet one other Godlike, Sargamis, who is Eothas' Godlike. Eothas spoke to him but vanished after Deadfire incident and doesn't know why. He found a fragment of Eothas' statute and wants to revive him. You can stop him (or not)
11. So who is the Envoy's God Patron? Why, Sapadal. She called you to Living Lands to free her.
11a. She's rather heavily autistic and has the mind of the child since nobody wanted to talk to her and even her followers were terrified of her
12. Whenever her people were in peril, she'd destroy the threat but, kill many of her followers as collateral. Wediditpatrickwesavedthecity.jpg
13. So, it's on you whether to free her or not, also to force her to realize her mistakes or whether her lashing out was justified.
14. Ending is Hoover Dam Electric Boogaloo. Pick a faction and all your friends from previous quests will help you in the final battle.
14a. You can also 100/100 Speech the main villain at the end of the battle like Lanius to KYS. Pretty cool.
So the major two choices in the game is how Living Lands should be governed and what you did to Sapadal.


Bravo Vince
 
Is there any mods for PoE1 on steam to spice up a run? I got it free on Epic and Avowed made me want to go for a new extra difficult play.
 
Genuine question I'm looking for a game to waste my time playing - I've avoided a lot of games because they are all pozzed with trannie flags, pozzed and full of retardation. I just want to play a game which does not pander to any "audience" and is actually fun and not full of agendas and far-left/right ideologies.

So is the game any good? Is the game going to tell me about an orange man who's a new dictator of the fairy kingdom and how having bum sex with men is a good thing and that trannies are not gross but are heckin valid.
 
I am a big Pillars nerd. I loved Baldur's Gate. I was overjoyed to see a fantasy game set in colonial America. I loved the heavy gaelic and welsh inspiration of Aedyr. It felt like you took a kind of generic fantasy world and fast-forwarded it a couple centuries into the future where people killed all the dragons and monsters and set off into the age of exploration. The whole analog of animancy and modern psychiatry and neuroscience was really interesting too.

It was definitely a thinking man's setting with a lot of love put into it; a grown-up version of childhood fantasy where everything is a bit melancholy that was designed for kids who played BG and whatnot.

I get the vibe that whoever made avowed did not really grasp this. The story looks kind of atrocious. "There is a real god but she is girlboss mother gaia." Like, basically, isn't the plot just a recycling of what Llengrath already was becoming? Why not explore that? Rather than Woedica just being a bitch again why not try to shed light on why Woedica was needed by Engwith and what her perspective is?
 
Making my return to the thread to make my final review:

2/10: A fake RPG with some decent mechanics.
I was having a lot of fun siding with the Empire and all the "fascists"
But about half way thru... They stop making that an option!
I was really looking forward to taking over the entire Living Lands and giving it over to the Empire.... Turns out you can't do that.
4 dialogue options to agree with the brown woman companion who's screeching in your ear.... No thanks.

18 hours gametime. Can't say it was wasted but its very dissatisfying to have the game spit in my face with what I wanted to do. Especially after they made it seem like I had a choice with where the story was going.
The only redeeming quality of this game is the combat. It's actually quite a bit of fun. I really enjoyed spell slinging and slashing shit with my sword. I think the dodge mechanic is also WAY overpowered, to the point where you don't even NEED shield, as long as you have 2 brain cells to rub together. The dodge windows are really generous.

I'm officially dropping this game. Press 'S' to spit.
 
I am a big Pillars nerd. I loved Baldur's Gate. I was overjoyed to see a fantasy game set in colonial America. I loved the heavy gaelic and welsh inspiration of Aedyr. It felt like you took a kind of generic fantasy world and fast-forwarded it a couple centuries into the future where people killed all the dragons and monsters and set off into the age of exploration. The whole analog of animancy and modern psychiatry and neuroscience was really interesting too.

It was definitely a thinking man's setting with a lot of love put into it; a grown-up version of childhood fantasy where everything is a bit melancholy that was designed for kids who played BG and whatnot.

I get the vibe that whoever made avowed did not really grasp this. The story looks kind of atrocious. "There is a real god but she is girlboss mother gaia." Like, basically, isn't the plot just a recycling of what Llengrath already was becoming? Why not explore that? Rather than Woedica just being a bitch again why not try to shed light on why Woedica was needed by Engwith and what her perspective is?
Avowed is just a poor man's Greedfall, which is sad considering how half-cocked that game is. The only thing it seems to have going for it is it's combat, which is a step above Outer World's combat.
I was having a lot of fun siding with the Empire and all the "fascists"
Honestly, I'm surprised this game even lets you do that.
But about half way thru... They stop making that an option!
Never mind, that sounded too good for modern Obsidian
 
I was really looking forward to taking over the entire Living Lands and giving it over to the Empire.... Turns out you can't do that.
4 dialogue options to agree with the brown woman companion who's screeching in your ear.... No thanks.
The illusion of choice was already bad enough in games, but adding the woke element to it really drives it into being completely insufferable. A lot of games are glorified struggle sessions.
 
I was having a lot of fun siding with the Empire and all the "fascists"
Turns out you can't do that.
This just proves a fallout New Vegas 2 cant be made today. Imagine a New Vegas you not allowed to side with the Legion.

Even Pillers 2, as woke as it was at points, let you side with pirates that were fine with slavery, The vallian republic who wanted to colonize the natives and the Rautians, that wanted to assimilate the natives to their culture through sabotage and assassination's.
 
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Genuine question I'm looking for a game to waste my time playing - I've avoided a lot of games because they are all pozzed with trannie flags, pozzed and full of retardation. I just want to play a game which does not pander to any "audience" and is actually fun and not full of agendas and far-left/right ideologies.

So is the game any good? Is the game going to tell me about an orange man who's a new dictator of the fairy kingdom and how having bum sex with men is a good thing and that trannies are not gross but are heckin valid.
You don't specify what type of game so let me give you a list of games worth playing.
  • Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe
  • Factorio
  • Kenshi
  • Mount and Blade Warband
  • EDF 4/5/6
  • Dwarf Fortress
  • Cataclysm: Bright Nights
  • Unreal Worlds
  • Farming Simulator 22
  • Patrician 2/3
  • Civilization 2
  • Supreme Commander
  • Anno 1404
  • Dragon Age: Origins
  • Gothic 1/2/3
  • Amazing Cultivation Simulator
  • Grim Dawn
As for wether this game is worth playing skim the thread and if it seems appealing I can't help you
 
Genuine question I'm looking for a game to waste my time playing - I've avoided a lot of games because they are all pozzed with trannie flags, pozzed and full of retardation. I just want to play a game which does not pander to any "audience" and is actually fun and not full of agendas and far-left/right ideologies.

So is the game any good? Is the game going to tell me about an orange man who's a new dictator of the fairy kingdom and how having bum sex with men is a good thing and that trannies are not gross but are heckin valid.
There is a thread on way better RPGs worth playing if you're looking for recommendations
 
Genuine question I'm looking for a game to waste my time playing - I've avoided a lot of games because they are all pozzed with trannie flags, pozzed and full of retardation. I just want to play a game which does not pander to any "audience" and is actually fun and not full of agendas and far-left/right ideologies.

So is the game any good? Is the game going to tell me about an orange man who's a new dictator of the fairy kingdom and how having bum sex with men is a good thing and that trannies are not gross but are heckin valid.
Baldurs Gate 3, Wrath of the Righteous are better games with the same amount of POZ.

Rogue Trader is decidedly less pozzed, but is not a fantasy.
 
Baldurs Gate 3, Wrath of the Righteous are better games with the same amount of POZ.

Rogue Trader is decidedly less pozzed, but is not a fantasy.
While i believe wotr is a much better game than kingmaker, i believe the companions and story in kingmaker is much more fun. The ui, some mechanics, kingdom management itself etc is worse than what we have in wotr, at least the game does not hav such horrible, cringe companions, romance, quests etc.
 
Started playing the game again. Found out a neat trick while trying out weapons. if you attack with a dagger and then a main weapon (swords, Maces etc), it will count the attack speed as it was a dagger. the enemy dont even have time to react when i beat them to death.

The story so far is interesting enough if you played the past games. If not, every conversation sounds like NPC giving you a lore dump (kinda like the first game).
 
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