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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
EDIT: I've found that people who have spent any time around pakis, be they english, slav or other, come to hate the fuckers with a passion. Anyone, especially lefties, who have never had the displeasure of spending time with them, seem to put them on a pedestal of genuinely decent, hardworking, friendly people.
The conditioning is real but the cure is indeed exposure therapy; I never used to feel the way I do about browns because I lived in a nice area and "they" were always in their DESIGNATED part of town that my family were smart enough not to let me anywhere near, wasn't till well into adulthood when I got a job and engaged in actual interaction with such "people" that grim reality washed away any fanciful notions with objective fact and lived experiences (grandad was right).
You see it all the time with the free palestine types cheering for homo roof tossers and the care 4 calais crew who spend a few weekend doping up on charity giveaways; they don't actually have any experience with any of them, all they've got for refence is what they've been indoctrinated to believe. The real whitepill is that the truth is indeed otherwise and I believe for the vast majority of everyone it's merely a matter of them having enough of the right time to come to the correct conclusion.
 
The conditioning is real but the cure is indeed exposure therapy; I never used to feel the way I do about browns because I lived in a nice area and "they" were always in their DESIGNATED part of town that my family were smart enough not to let me anywhere near, wasn't till well into adulthood when I got a job and engaged in actual interaction with such "people" that grim reality washed away any fanciful notions with objective fact and lived experiences (grandad was right).
You see it all the time with the free palestine types cheering for homo roof tossers and the care 4 calais crew who spend a few weekend doping up on charity giveaways; they don't actually have any experience with any of them, all they've got for refence is what they've been indoctrinated to believe. The real whitepill is that the truth is indeed otherwise and I believe for the vast majority of everyone it's merely a matter of them having enough of the right time to come to the correct conclusion.
I used to live around the Bradford area and trust me when I say this:

My hatred for the pakis, pajeets, any one and everyone from a country ending in stan or who ever else follows their dumb religion can not be described in words. If I am given any level of power then I will choose to ethnically cleanse the lot of them from these isles by any means necessary. Living around them has only ever been negative and moving far FAR away was the best choice for me I ever made.
 
I remember reading the same sort of shit in high school in the "wartime propaganda" module, emotive appeals to sympathy and all that, except it was about psyopping hosuewives into buying warbonds or something relatively innocuous. Why the fuck must the state news service actively job for obeasts and faggots? This shit is byond partisan but is also weird, nobody likes fats, most people don't actually mind gays but the meth is pushing it. I saw some shit the other day about "muh genetics is why dogs overeat and maybe that's why hambeasts just have to stuff their faces okay" too, whose qui could possibly be bono'ing off of this?

Poor (ex)fatties uwu, weight is not a protected characteristic uwu, if only it was illegal to be fatphobic mmmm.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly62lmpll3o/https://archive.is/MkeYC
When Branneisha Cooper was overweight, she felt both invisible and like she stood out.
Her friends would get attention when they were out together, while she was overlooked. But she also had a sense that everyone was staring at her, scrutinising her.
Everyday scenarios were daunting: fairground rides (would she fit in the seat?), working out (would it hurt?), clothes shopping (would she find attractive clothing in her size?).
At the end of 2022, Branneisha, now 28 and working in Texas for a major retailer, began using weight-loss injection Mounjaro. She's lost about six stone (38kg).
Things changed quickly. Suddenly, she could exercise without her body getting sore, colleagues made more small talk with her and she felt comfortable going on adventurous dates with her boyfriend. She was go-karting, dancing and going to arcades - activities that previously made her feel self-conscious.
But despite feeling like she had a "second chance at life", weight loss was bittersweet.
"It was almost like I had stepped into a different world overnight," Branneisha recalls. "People were suddenly more friendly, more attentive, and I was given opportunities and respect that didn't exist before."
"That rapid shift was jarring and really opened my eyes to just how deeply size bias is ingrained in our culture," she continues. "Psychologically, it was a lot to process because while I was the same person, the way I was perceived had completely changed."

Branneisha says that losing weight felt "almost like I had stepped into a different world overnight"
Weight-loss transformations are nothing new. In the 90s and 00s, they filled the pages of tabloid newspapers, sold celebrity diet regimes and inspired popular TV series like The Biggest Loser, You Are What You Eat and Celebrity Fit Club.
But in the 2020s, the advent of weight-loss injections like semaglutide and tirzepatide (marketed under brand names Ozempic, Wegovy and Mounjaro) has meant people can lose huge amounts of weight rapidly, without undergoing invasive surgery. The jabs suppress people's appetites, causing them to feel fuller sooner.
Wegovy has been available on the NHS in England, Wales and Scotland since September 2023 with strict eligibility criteria, but weight-loss drugs are expected to become more accessible when Mounjaro becomes available through NHS England later this year.
The jabs, which are not suitable for everyone and can have severe side effects, are also available from pharmacies in the UK for people who can't get them prescribed by their GPs.
So other than the physical difference, how does the way you're perceived change when you lose weight quickly and look different to the world?
People who have used the injections have told BBC News that rapid weight loss has caused a massive shift in the way they are treated - by both strangers and loved ones - as well as a change in how they approach their lives.

'Strangers are a lot more chatty'​

Branneisha's feeling of sticking out and being overlooked at the same time while overweight is one others can relate to.
When you're overweight, people either avoid eye contact or "really stare and glare at you", says Jess Phillips, 29, a primary school teacher from Sittingbourne, Kent.
She previously felt uncomfortable taking flights, travelling on public transport and eating at restaurants. Finding suitable seating worried her, as well as the feeling she was "taking other people's space".
People had even shouted "fat" at her from cars and at a festival.
A trip in 2023 to Sorrento, on the Italian coast, was a major catalyst for starting weight-loss injections last June.
"Everyone was staring at me the whole time," she says. "They're just not used to people being that big out there."

Jess says that before she lost weight she felt uncomfortable taking flights, travelling on public transport and eating at restaurants
Since losing weight, Jess has noticed a big difference in how she's treated in public.
"Strangers seem to be a lot more chatty with me than they ever were before," she explains.
She feels "more invisible in a nice way", she continues. "I don't feel like people are looking at me when I go to different places. I feel nicely anonymous... I'm not standing out in any particular way."
This is something that Jeannine A Gailey, sociology professor at Texas Christian University, explored in her 2014 book The Hyper(in)visible Fat Woman.
"My argument is that those who are marginalised, including fat people, become hyper-visible and hyper-invisible", meaning they're sometimes ignored and sometimes made into a "spectacle", she tells the BBC.
Amy Toon, 34, a content creator from Solihull, felt this way. Before starting on the drugs, she shopped online "because of the overwhelming fear of people looking at me", she says. "I just didn't want to leave the house."
Since losing weight, "people are a lot more smiley and just make eye contact," she says. "I never had that before. It's really strange and it's also really sad at the same time."
Society has preconceptions about how overweight people are expected to behave, and treats them accordingly, says Caleb Luna, an assistant professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara specialising in fat studies.
"Fat people are expected to hide and shrink ourselves and not be proud," says Prof Luna.
Weight isn't a protected characteristic in the UK or in most other parts of the world, meaning it isn't illegal to discriminate based on size, except if the person's weight is classed as a disability.
Academics say that anti-fat bias can have significant implications, from how people are perceived in job interviews to how doctors interact with them. People make "all kinds of personality assumptions" about other people based on their body size, according to Prof Luna.
"I don't understand why there's this rage that some people seem to feel upon looking at someone who's overweight," says Alix Harvey, a 35-year-old marine biologist from Plymouth who's lost around three stone (20kg) after starting weight-loss injections last year. "It's socially acceptable to hate fat people."

Alix says some people seem to have "rage" at overweight people

'People see the drugs as cheating'​

Weight-loss drugs have helped people like Branneisha, Jess, Amy and Alix lose weight - but they're not right for everyone. Some in the healthcare industry have concerns about the wrong people getting hold of the jabs - including those who are already a healthy weight or have a history of eating disorders.
Common side effects of semaglutide and tirzepatide include diarrhoea, nausea and vomiting, according to the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (Nice). Rarer side effects include acute gallstone disease and pancreatitis, and the NHS warns that there is also a risk of hypoglycaemia, which happens when your blood sugar level drops too low.
Jonathan Pinkney, professor of endocrinology and diabetes at the University of Plymouth, says while there are "great expectations and hope around the drugs", trials show people "do tend to relapse" after they stop taking them, meaning the weight loss isn't sustained.
Alix says this worries her. "Am I going to be treated differently again? Because I like the way I'm currently being treated."
Some people who take the medication say there's stigma attached to using the drugs to lose weight, too, which Alix says puts some people off taking the injections.
"I didn't expect the hatred," she says, noting that some people see the use of weight-loss injections as "cheating" and a "socially unacceptable" way to lose weight.
"A lot of people see it as the lazy way out," Amy says, referring to comments about weight-loss drugs left on her social media videos.
For sustained weight loss, the injections need to be used as part of a healthy lifestyle, including a balanced diet and regular exercise.
"People think that it's a magic wand then it's not," Amy says. "It doesn't just melt the fat away."
"Even if you injected yourself once a week and a pound a week just evaporated from your body, what would that matter?" Alix says. "Why is that cheating?"
"You basically can't win," she says, referring to the stigma attached to both being overweight and using injections to lose weight.

'The larger me deserved that same attention and love'​

People who've lost weight using the jabs tell the BBC their self-confidence has massively improved. Many say they feel much happier to take trains and planes. Some say they now wear brighter colours and tighter clothes. Others say they're more vocal sharing their opinions at work.
Amy says she now feels comfortable taking her children swimming, while Jess says she's been able to book her first-ever ski trip, something she'd never thought was possible before.
"I actually think it must be annoying how confident I am at the moment," Jess laughs.
But many of the women we spoke to were left feeling sad for their previous selves, or frustrated at the unfairness of their past treatment.
"It's so sad that your weight can define you," Amy says. "I haven't changed at all as a person. The only thing that has changed my appearance."
Branneisha echoes these thoughts.
"It makes me sad when I have experiences that are different now because the larger me deserved that same attention and love," Branneisha says. "Being smaller now makes me sad for my former self because people looked at me differently."
Poor methehad homos addicted to methy buttsex uwu need moah moneh fo dem tolerance and acceptance seminars
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gx19vnvjlo/https://archive.is/7jWZ7
A man drawn into the world of having sex while high on illegal drugs has described how he became a "zombie" whose life was slowly deteriorating.
Chris - whose name has been changed - told the BBC he started to take part in chemsex, short for chemical sex, which helped mask the "the shame and guilt" he said he felt growing up gay.
The Londoner said after becoming addicted to chemsex - which typically involves men who have sex with men using the drugs crystal meth, methedrone and GHB/GBL to enhance their sexual experience - he faced a "wall of silence" from helplines and others within the community.
Campaigners say support is "patchy" due to gay sex stigma and has called for this to change. The government says it is aware of the harm caused by chemsex and has issued guidance to local authorities on managing the issue.
Chris was initially offered drugs at a party, but it was not until a few months later that he then began to actively seek it out more and find people who were taking drugs.
He said at first it took away "a lot of the shame and guilt you have about growing up being gay. It's kind of quite liberating".
However, that quickly changed.
"No-one really speaks about it. Everyone is slightly ashamed about it. It's all behind closed doors. It doesn't really spill out into the real world. It's very secretive," he said.

'Escape the horror'​

Chris said his friends told him he was almost like a "zombie".
"Slowly, your life starts to deteriorate because you are missing work on a Monday. And then your work is obviously not up to standard.
"You can't do much until Wednesday. And then it all starts again on a Friday," he said.
"You have to eat, you have to sleep, you have to get on with your life but all you're really doing is looking forward to the next time you can take drugs," he added.
"Which is to escape the horror that is your life, the misery that is your life which you've created but, in a way, you don't seem to see that because all you want to do is take drugs."

Ignacio Labayen De Inza says chemsex is a "trap"
Campaigners have said chemsex among some gay men has a stigma attached that meant many were not seeking the help they needed.
Ignacio Labayen De Inza, chief executive of the London-based charity Controlling Chemsex, is calling for people to start a conversation around chemsex to help change that stigma.
He said: "Chemsex is very available but not everyone has access to reliable information.
"Not just the government but no-one is doing very much. People think there is nothing we can do because it's going to carry on happening, but people could make sure that they set boundaries and to keep safe."
He said there was a stigma attached to it because "we are talking about sex, we are talking about gay sex, we are talking about drugs".

Philip Hurd, a specialist adviser at Controlling Chemsex, was involved in chemsex 12 years ago and said it took a near-death overdose for him to realise he needed to stop.
He said: "You get close to the criminal justice system, and you start doing things that are dangerous.
"And then I had a near-death overdose. The doctors said I was very lucky to survive, and I had to get my parents down from the country in their early eighties. That was the point I thought I can't do this; I'm going to die."
Mr Hurd, who lives in London and now volunteers at Controlling Chemsex, uses his personal experience to help others.
"I think it's possible for a person with good psychology, sociology skills to support somebody coming out of chemsex but nothing can replace having been there knowing," he said.

London-based charity Controlling Chemsex says there is a stigma attached to chemsex that needs to be addressed
An Opinium Research poll of 2,000 people for the charity found that 76% of those surveyed were not familiar with chemsex.
Just over a third of those who identified as gay/lesbian were not familiar with the risks of chemsex, the study also found.

Veronika Carruthers, a lecturer at Portsmouth University, has been looking into the current support available across the south of England and found it was still "pretty limited" and "patchy".
"We consider this to be a bit of a postcode lottery," she said.
She explained that some people did not know the right services to turn to.
"Particularly if we look at it from a divide of drug counselling services and sexual health clinics, while sexual health clinics are preferred there is still an element of staff not having the appropriate knowledge of what chemsex actually is and in turn not being able to provide the most effect support," she said.
"In regards to drug counselling services, quite often we have recovery workers who have never actually heard of chemsex and therefore they're not able to provide any form of support and individuals often don't feel that is the most appropriate place for them.
"As a result people don't want to call for help or support from particular organisations over others."

Recovery interventions​

A Department of Health and Social Care spokesperson said in addition to issuing guidance to local authorities, it had boosted the Public Health Grant by almost £200m.
"Local authorities can use this to improve drug and alcohol treatment and recovery interventions, including for people involved in chemsex," the spokesperson said.
"We continue to work with substance misuse commissioners and sexual health commissioners to improve access to support services for those who use drugs in this context."
Details of information and support with addiction are available
at BBC Action Line.
 
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Almost missed you were talking about Liverpool there. Nicely done.
I’m surprised more people didn’t pick up on it.
Why the fuck must the state news service actively job for obeasts and faggots?
I hate broadcast news. I only watch it visiting family and it honesty shocks me. News should be boring. It shouldn’t be full of adjectives and adverbs made at trying to make me emotional.

They’re all as bad. I can’t even watch GB News. Just because it makes you want to have a hatewank at the expense of lefty stupidity it doesn’t make it above the neoliberal bawling of BBC, ITV, or Sky news,

I miss the glory days of dull and balanced CNN, bros.
Can you stop with that uwu stuff? We speak English up in here.
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Surprised no one posted for posterity Rupert Lowe's statement on the obviously fucky matter afoot.[Archive].

I like him a lot and think he's the main draw to Reform for a lot of people (name another politcian that has zoomers making synthwave fan videos about them). I hope he sees a path to leaving Farage in the dust and taking charge of something. It's a good statement IMO and the quiet banger is the point that instructing a KC for this is an extravagant use of members fees, it's very DOGE-y.
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Surprised no one posted for posterity Rupert Lowe's statement on the obviously fucky matter afoot.[Archive].

I like him a lot and think he's the main draw to Reform for a lot of people (name another politcian that has zoomers making synthwave fan videos about them). I hope he sees a path to leaving Farage in the dust and taking charge of something. It's a good statement IMO and the quiet banger is the point that instructing a KC for this is an extravagant use of members fees, it's very DOGE-y.
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Farage has finally done himself in with this one, it's a massive own goal. Lowe has been doing sterling work in parliament, exposing just what a disaster immigration has been, has an astonishing following among the zoomers for a 67 year old right wing politician and Nigel and his pet Muslim have decided to knife him for being too popular.

Looks like I'm voting SDP (or Homeland!) next election.
 
Farage has finally done himself in with this one, it's a massive own goal. Lowe has been doing sterling work in parliament, exposing just what a disaster immigration has been, has an astonishing following among the zoomers for a 67 year old right wing politician and Nigel and his pet Muslim have decided to knife him for being too popular.

Looks like I'm voting SDP (or Homeland!) next election.
This is what makes me assume Farrage is the very definition of controlled opposition. As soon as one of his parties gets serious and starts getting some traction he leaves, tries to burn it’s reputation in the media, then starts a new one.

I await him forming the I’m Not A Racist As Some Of My Best Financial Backers Are Muslim But party.
 
I would imagine that for a party the size of the SDP the candidate selection process is as follows;

1. Are you a member of the party?
2. Do you want to stand for election and can you pay your own deposit/expenses?

If the answer to both is yes, then you get to be the candidate.
 
SDP didn't stand in my ward, otherwise they'd have my vote every time. I wonder how open their candidate selection process is...

SDP

"We will reduce net migration to 50,000 per annum ......."

Lost my vote already.

So that's the population of Durham or Crosby or Beeston or Welwyn Garden City or Hinkley or Tunbridge Wells or Yeovil ( trying to give people all around the country a town of comparable size ) EVERY YEAR. Obviously for living standards not to go down, all these people will have to be net contributors to the extent that their taxes will pay for the infrastructure ( roads, hospitals, schools, sewarge works, etc ) so as not to be a burden on the current population.
 
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