Inactive Sophia Harrington / Jack Harrington / Birdie / SpriteCranbirdie / Alias / Lucifer - Has-been animation memer, Pooner edgelord, Genuine cautionary tale about childhood e-fame

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I'm referring to the way you spoke about Birdie in the past tense, advocating for the idea of them having their ass beat as a child as correctional therapy. You know what you said, and you know you're deflecting.

I don't know nor care for this person, but what I do care about is the thousands of children exposed to the animation meme and art commentary communities that have their mental health ruined by feeling like they have to walk on eggshells all the time, wondering when they're going to be lynched for the crime of being a growing person from a less than stellar environment, being made to feel like if they're bad once, they're bad forever. It's like a mass mental dehumanization. I strongly feel that if Birdie or Synni weren't exposed to this mindset for such prolonged periods of time, they could have had better outcomes. And yet I see you in this thread constantly, having the worst takes imaginable. No, I don't care for birdie, but I find you personally distasteful.
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horseorigin said:
Birdie is an adult wtf are you on? You’re talking like you know her personally, it’s fucking weird. If you are Birdie’s PR manager all you have to do is let us know. ;)
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Honestly can you guys both shut up, this discussion isn’t as important as you think it is, just agree to disagree atp. You’re shitting up the threads with this petty disagreement.
 
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horseorigin said:
You see this too personally. Birdie is textbook ODD and a problem child. She’s a mad lad. Unhinged and unfiltered. Good parenting is not some silver bullet that destroys all the vices and dark parts hiding in the depths of your spawns soul. You can be shitty and come from shitty parents. That’s what we call unfortunate.
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i grew up with ODD and now specifically work with kids who have ODD- youre a fucking retard who has no idea how the disorder OR child psychology and abuse work. it’s pretty basic knowledge that ODD spawns from childhood neglect and abuse, but you wouldn’t know that because you have the introspection skills of a meth addicted rat.

if you think beating a child is a way to fix their problems- ESPECIALLY a severely autistic one like birdie- you’re on the same level of retardation as sophia.
horseorigin said:
Birdie is an adult wtf are you on? You’re talking like you know her personally, it’s fucking weird. If you are Birdie’s PR manager all you have to do is let us know. ;)
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oh my god please shoot yourself.
 
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9292929292 said:
soz when it comes to child abuse i get a little heated lol
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I mean yeah, but can’t yall see that there was a little bit of BOTH? Yeah, Birdie was probably abused, and at the very least neglected, but they also exaggerated or straight up lied about abuse in some cases. So someone COULD see Birdie as an example of an abuse victim becoming an abuser, and others can see them as a liar because of their history. Either way, this discussion is utterly retarded this far into the thread. No, we don’t need to be talking about if they were truly abused or not because who the hell cares? They’re an adult now, and make their own decisions. What happened to them as a child can explain some minor things, but is completely irrelevant to the degenerate they are now. I mean, you can’t really explain away the whole ferret situation, abusing a baby, doxxing people, etc. as a result of abuse.
 
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I can’t reply to @LasagnaSlave x3 but this is in reference to their post

I only felt bad for the young tweens and teens that got roped into and had their minds warped by birdie and Co.They were naïve and young, therefore not knowing better than to not hang around a Birdie. they also tended to be mentally troubled themselves, because that the kind of crowd this neet likes to surround himself around. They were vulnerable and birdie took that vulnerablility and used it for his own weird kicks.

The adults involved in this on the other hand, they’re either retarded or otherwise stupid like Queen and Egress, or straight up just as gross and Birdie is, like synni and (apparently) Hime. They just suck ass all round. I wonder if birdie will try to re-regain what he previously had. EVERYONE IS AN ABOOZER!
 
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tuxedocat said:
I mean yeah, but can’t yall see that there was a little bit of BOTH? Yeah, Birdie was probably abused, and at the very least neglected, but they also exaggerated or straight up lied about abuse in some cases. So someone COULD see Birdie as an example of an abuse victim becoming an abuser, and others can see them as a liar because of their history. Either way, this discussion is utterly retarded this far into the thread. No, we don’t need to be talking about if they were truly abused or not because who the hell cares? They’re an adult now, and make their own decisions. What happened to them as a child can explain some minor things, but is completely irrelevant to the degenerate they are now. I mean, you can’t really explain away the whole ferret situation, abusing a baby, doxxing people, etc. as a result of abuse.
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I wasn't denying that there's both, in fact, quite the opposite. People with BPD exaggerate their experiences, both because it genuinely can feel that way to them in the moment, and because they feed off of the sympathy they get for villainizing others. People with BPD are like emotional burn victims, but they also completely disregard the way they make other people feel unless they are experiencing social consequences. They have a very "I'm hurting, so everything you're feeling is irrelevant, especially if I caused it because you deserve it!" type of worldview, so whenever one comes to you talking about some awful thing they experienced at the hand of someone else, some type of doubt needs to be cast, lest you outcast and traumatize someone who's not that bad.

However, I just think it's fucking stupid to deny the realities of basic psychology while acting as if you're spewing facts. Regardless if this is the big bad evil kiwifarms, kiwifarms users are human too at the end of the day, humans with problems that are likely sympathizable. Yes, victims very often go off to hurt others in turn, especially if they are on the younger side as it's the developed frontal lobe in particular that helps you to make sound decisions. But the only way to recover from being an abuser is to realize that abusive behavior comes from a place of pain, not in a victim mentality type of way, but the type of way where you hold yourself accountable while understanding where this behavior is coming from, so you can work on it and heal it. The black and white thinking of these types of spaces is extremely detrimental to this, as it makes you go either one way or the other, and extreme forms of holding yourself accountable only cause self hatred which causes people to be disgusted with you in a different way. It's important to find a balance.

My hope is that someday, art spaces will once again be free from the extreme black and white thinking that permeates them, as fellow oldfags will know that cases such as Birdie did not really exist before 2017. Morality policing leads to repression, repression leads to bottled up feelings, and bottled up feelings explode in awful ways. I'm not saying this in reference to solely Birdie, don't get me wrong, zoophilia and grooming isn't a result of repression, I'm saying this because I know people who have resentments towards this mentality are undoubtedly reading this, and this morality policing culture leads to children having prolonged exposure to it not developing properly. The ability to call someone a retard is a necessary evil and I think if Birdie was allowed to do that to get people to shut the fuck up without thousands of people speculating on whether or not they're an ableist, I think a lot of things could have been avoided.

TL;DR: Yeah bippies are dumb fucking assholes who lack self awareness but denying reality only makes you look cool to retards and hurts well intended assholes who might actually wanna get better.
 
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9292929292 said:
*parasocial screeching*
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You still have not produced anything that could lend credibility to your theory. I refuse to speculate about her claims and treat them as truth without seeing some sort of 3rd party evidence to back it up. If her household was shite, this should be the easiest thing in the world to prove. She has 2 siblings. She has relatives, she’s living with an aunt. Even a 3rd party anecdote would be leagues more reliable than taking anything Birdie says at her word. I’m not opposed to the idea her parents were garbage, but I’m not going to take her saying they’re abusive at face value without knowing what they did, and having credible evidence/testimony to confirm it. I like to be well informed. This is the hot take that caused you to lose your shit?

Do you know something that hasn’t been posted on the thread yet to justify your viewpoint? Please do share.
 
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nekomura iroha said:
Now that I think about it, back when Sophia was in "hiatus" she also had a lot of controversies; do you think we're ever seeing more controversies within the time?
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If Synni wasn't keeping so to herself there might be more, but she's tucked away with Saki and Puppycrayon in her little commission server. At least it seems like she's getting better, but that means less for us to sperg over
 
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nekomura iroha said:
Now that I think about it, back when Sophia was in "hiatus" she also had a lot of controversies; do you think we're ever seeing more controversies within the time?
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I think Queen's video (if she's still planning on posting it) could spark some, since that would give all the regular orbiters and Birdie Exes a reason to "come forward" for the millionth time
 
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