Is Terminator 2 actually woke?

[Popper Whiting]

When did this happen??

They happened seperately. He turned into a woman and stab a dude through a milk carton.

And after the asylum escape T1000 homosexually hits on a bike cop

Also at the end of the movie T1000 couldn't help but pretend to be a woman again (like a tranny).

Using these clips I think it is very clear that T1000 was a tranny bot. The blatant homosexuality when hitting on a bike cop, pretending to be a woman twice and the fact T1000 spent the whole movie going after a child and trying to cause that child harm.

Teminator 2 was not woke. It was a warning about those who are 'fluid' in their identity and how they will do anything to harm children. A warning we didn't listen to.

 

[Endless Torment]

They happened seperately. He turned into a woman and stab a dude through a milk carton.

And after the asylum escape T1000 homosexually hits on a bike cop

Also at the end of the movie T1000 couldn't help but pretend to be a woman again (like a tranny).

Using these clips I think it is very clear that T1000 was a tranny bot. The blatant homosexuality when hitting on a bike cop, pretending to be a woman twice and the fact T1000 spent the whole movie going after a child and trying to cause that child harm.

Teminator 2 was not woke. It was a warning about those who are 'fluid' in their identity and how they will do anything to harm children. A warning we didn't listen to.

Why trying to find those scenes I did find a passage why he is a cop.

During the writing process, he was in his living room excitedly explaining the T-1000 to his friend and collaborator Stan Winston when Winston raised a concern. "I don't know who the bad guy is," Winston said. "I need a specific character, a specific image." To Winston, what Cameron was describing sounded like a blob of goo, not an iconic evildoer. "From a story standpoint, I thought it was a problem," Winston later recalled in an interview for the picture-book history of his story, "The Winston Effect." Cameron respected Winston's instincts for creating memorable characters, and he started reconsidering how he would shape this one. Later that same night, the effects artist got a phone call from his friend. "I've got it!" Cameron said. "He's a cop!" The form the T-1000 would take for most of the movie was a Los Angeles police officer. This solved the storytelling dilemma Winston had raised and also gave Cameron an opportunity to underline a central theme in both of the Terminator movies - how people, especially those in violent jobs, like soldiers and cops, can become barbarized. "The Terminator films are not really about the human race getting killed of by future machines. They're about us losing touch with our own humanity and becoming machines, which allows us to kill and brutalize each other," he says. "Cops think all non-cops as less than they are, stupid, weak, and evil. They dehumanize the people they are sworn to protect and desensitize themselves in order to do that job."

I don't think anyone who saw this film thought ACAB while watching.

 

[Grub]

)Sarah Connor beats up several male guards during her escape attempt. This is not feminine behaviour and is unrealistic, given that she's a woman and an average man could've easily overpowered her

Didn't she spend years training because she knew a robot Apocalypse was coming?

After escaping the loony bin, Sarah Connor secretly sets out to kill Miles Dyson. I'm not gonna mention how it's unfeminine of her, cause I've already covered it in the previous point

Again. Didn't she know that dude was directly responsible for a robot Apocalypse?

Fucking men like you built the hydrogen bomb. Men like you thought it up. You think you're so creative. You don't know what it's like to really create something; to create a life; to feel it growing inside you. All you know how to create is death and destruction...

A non autistic person is capable of understanding she meant 'people who fuck around with nature without regards to the potential consequences.' Which was one of the major themes of the movie and the series in general.

Miles Dyson. He's the lead engineer on the Skynet project. He's also black. Le black science man?!

Despite what your internet rotted brain may believe, black people do in fact exist in skilled fields without being DEI hires.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

technically yes, but it was released before social media was invented so it's one of the "good ones" and got grandfathered in and if it released today, a majority of the site would've called it that

 

[Modern Audience]

Didn't she spend years training because she knew a robot Apocalypse was coming?

There is also the fact that she's probably considerably strong for a woman.

 

[Berrakh]

I did find a passage why he is a cop.

Bastard.
Post in thread 'StoneToss (allegedly, formerly Red Panels)'
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/stonetoss-allegedly-formerly-red-panels.58889/post-20698501

Anyway Arnie saves the film from being woke slop because he’s the guy we’re really rooting for. And the problem with using Wokeness as a barometer is that we all accept things that could be called woke because they’re time-honored bits of artifice. Like women who can fight and do action, because it’s just easier on the writer if we suspend disbelief a little. A lot of times the claim of Woke is made because of a preexisting issue with a character or story. Like a mirror image of how every libfaggot video essay on Harry Potter is critical of it because of Rowling being a terf. And “redpilled” mofos blur the distinction between the redpill being a shorthand for accepting uncomfortable reality and a set of prescriptions for what ought to be.

So, basically, you need more to say than just “that’s woke because women actually have low grip strength.”

 

[That Chris Guy]

No.

The intention behind it matters to some degree. Sarah Connor is easily the strongest human character in that movie in terms of competency and ability, but the setting and the earnest way in which she approaches this makes it valid. She had a leg-up on everyone else by having a whole decade to contemplate what she was going to do, from training to stockpiling weaponry, and knowing at least a portion of the events that would lead to it and what kind of enemies she would be encountering.

She is catching men at a disadvantage: she sneak attacks the first guy before catching the second guy off-guard by throwing the keys, which he instinctively catches, leaving himself open. The third man is rather scrawny and solely occupied with keeping the syringe away from Dr. Silberman. The way the fights are conducted feels believable, and her efforts are overshadowed by the sheer power of the T-800 and T-1000 to most viewing audiences.

So no, it's not retroactively woke.

 

[74164978231]

Sarah Connor goes on an antisemitic, transphobic tirade. NOT woke.

That was actually toned down iirc. Originally the rant was supposed to be a lot more hateful towards men/society and would very much be considered woke by today's standards.

 

[Male Idiot]

Woke or not, it was definately extremely bigoted and hateful to robots and people of synthetic makeup. Hatecrimes like this make me a sad panda. I will be calling Bender Bending Rodriguez to be on the case!

 

[debristar]

Why only Terminator 2? What about Titanic?

 

[twodogsinacoat]

I would agree that it isn’t woke. I’d say an important factor in Terminator 2 is how Sarah Connor is negatively impacted and changed in proportion to her gains. She becomes isolated and obsessive to the point of almost dehumanizing herself. She suffers consequences for becoming a weapon herself which is not what you see in the modern stereotypically woke girl boss characters. Most of her decisions in the final act are reacting to the fact that she has become a part of the Skynet origin story. Miles Dyson wouldn’t have been able to make progress on Skynet without the actions Sarah Connor made in the first movie. There’s an irony to Sarah Connor being a literal mother to the resistance and Skynet.

 

[BradeRunna]

Why only Terminator 2? What about Titanic?

A guy's wife cheats on him with some broke unemployed dude and the guy is treated like the bad guy in the movie.

Women call this a love story.

It's just really fucked up when you think about it.

 

[MadStan]

Revisionist hogwash.

“A woman beating a man is unrealsitic” but machines that travel through time is cool. It’s science FICTION.

 

[Attempt Turd]

.Despite what your internet rotted brain may believe, black people do in fact exist in skilled fields without being DEI hires.

Name a single black science man in real life. The problem is that with the lower IQ curve there are orders of magitude more white men with the requisite IQ to have the capacity to be science man.

Ask your female friends to whack you in the face with a metal pipe a few times. If you don't budge at all, the movie is woke.

Women are slow to react, slow to move and weak compared to men. It's unlikely she would land the hit and if she did cause enough damage.

That said I don't mind the first one. She suprises, distracts and uses a weapon to increase her odds of succeeding.

Just watch womens hockey or womens MMA/Boxing. Slow and weak.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Sarah Connor beats up several male guards during her escape attempt. This is not feminine behaviour and is unrealistic, given that she's a woman and an average man could've easily overpowered her. The screenwriters could've had her patiently wait for T-800 and John to rescue her, but they didn't. Why? Clearly, to add the feminist message of "girls are just as strong as boys".

the guards beat her ass a few scenes before. in the escape scene she gets the jump on a guy, shes not doing kung fu fighting 1 v 10 like a modern movie.

And even then, while Dyson is portrayed as smart, he's basically just reverse engineering the existing Terminator electronics from the first movie IIRC.

the only problem is that dyson is a regular guy with a family and not an autist.

 

[Dysnomia]

This has got to be bait but I'll play ball.

1)Sarah Connor beats up several male guards during her escape attempt. This is not feminine behaviour and is unrealistic, given that she's a woman and an average man could've easily overpowered her. The screenwriters could've had her patiently wait for T-800 and John to rescue her, but they didn't. Why? Clearly, to add the feminist message of "girls are just as strong as boys".

Are you really worrying about realism in a movie featuring a robot made of liquid metal who can transform himself into practically anyone or anything?

2)After escaping the loony bin, Sarah Connor secretly sets out to kill Miles Dyson. I'm not gonna mention how it's unfeminine of her, cause I've already covered it in the previous point, but she confronts him saying the following:

Fucking men like you built the hydrogen bomb. Men like you thought it up. You think you're so creative. You don't know what it's like to really create something; to create a life; to feel it growing inside you. All you know how to create is death and destruction...

She's not exactly wrong. Men built the bomb. Sarah has the right to be pissed off after all that's happened to her. This isn't a rant she's going on because someone called her fat on Twitter. This is the literal end of the world that she's trying to prevent. Give her a break. She's pissed at Cyberdyne because they will create Skynet and cause the apocalypse. They found the Terminator hand and reverse engineered the technology. But Miles Dyson is not a bad person at all. And when she sees this they go with a backup plan and he sacrifices himself for the future.

Sadly they kept making Terminator movies. They should have left it at T2.

Sarah Connor is a very human character with very real flaws. She's not the perfect mother or perfect person. But she knows humanity will be destroyed if she doesn't do something. That's what makes her so cool. She's a real human being not a perfect hero.

 

[cigint]

Terminator 2 was woke, yes, like all the shit that was greenlit by Hollywood Jews. Of course, it's not as blatant as the shit you see today, because that wouldn't have flown back then. But it was just enough to slowly shift things in today's direction and pave the way for more Jewish rot.

 

[Moopy]

All I've learnt here is that people have a very hard time defining what woke actually means.

 

[Angelos32]

It is woke because it pushed progressivism to the maximum degree that they were able to back when this movie was made. Keep in mind the same fuckers that made T2 are making woke movies today.

 

[crowabunga]

Sarah Connor's speech to Dyson was cringe and blatant and very woke.

The rest might have been woke but it was good enough IDGAF even if it gets pointed out to me. Not sure if I'm happy or mad that modern propagandists have gotten so sloppy.