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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs
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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
"When will the British rise up?". They won't.
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I don't think it's something you can reliably predict. The complete apathy in the recent general election as well as the rise of Reform in the polls (At least prior to Farage's fumble) to me indicated a positive trend towards actual action and motivation in the populace. Sure, there's no 'revolution' on the books because there's still the belief that voting is a viable option to solve things.

The lack of popular response to the Rotherham shit was because both the government and media suppressed it, and that there was enough wiggle room for the government to not be blamed for it directly. The only actual way to learn about the nitty gritty of grooming gangs and the like was to look into it yourself online, and it only kind've entered the public consciousness years after the fact when media suppression and demonisation stopped being as effective. You can compare how many people know about Jimmy Saville being a nonce versus the grooming gangs because the media was far happier to report on one over the other.

People aren't willingly doing fuck all in response to all this shit, they either don't know about it (due to aforementioned suppression or lies) or are firm in the idea that voting can help things if they are in the know. I think the Southport riots were indicative of the kind of response you could see on a regular basis if they didn't actively suppress info. Social media helped to fan and encourage the response to Southport, and take into account that the riots were pretty much a kneejerk reaction -- imagine if they suppressed nothing about the Muslims and associated browns. The inbreeding, the lack of contribution to the economy, the widespread molestation, the drain on social services and the NHS. That's why the government (both labour and conservative) were trying to curtail what you can say online, and still are, only stymied at the moment by the likes of Elon having Trump's ear and Vance being vocal about Europe's lack of free speech.

The more people are made aware, the more angry they'll get, and if there's no political solution they can see, how else is change supposed to be enacted? I think the only reason the British haven't 'risen up' is entirely down to suppression of info, the lack of politicians speaking out, and the fact Reform exists and is rather popular polling-wise. As long as people can see political change in the form of Reform, they'll be content. Most normal people I've talked to (normal as in, doesn't spend more than an hour or two a day on social media, forums, youtube, etcetera) aren't even aware it's imploding yet.

Edit: I forgot to mention that the government and police forces are aware that they're utterly unready and unprepared for any sort of widescale discontent, especially outside of the larger cities. That's why they go overtime in arresting and suppressing comments made on social media and do nothing to upset the more volatile people groups. Muslims are treated with kid gloves because they react with violence and rioting to the slightest thing, so they are coddled (two-tier policing) but if it got the point where the actual natives reach a state of similar volatility, they would need to do the same thing. The main issue with is that it's easy to release the pressure on discontented whites (Reform, Brexit, Ukip, Rwanda scheme), but I do think there'll come a point there they'll be left with no choice but to actually listen to the natives, if to spare their own careers if nothing else. It won't last forever.
 
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Which side was rioting and which side were protesting?
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Just a quick grab from google. Some Muslims were also present to be the 'counter protest' but they didn't show up in large numbers. There were some obviously put together counter-protests to the anti-immigrant crowd when said crowds gathered on set days (totally not orchestrated) but otherwise the reaction to the Southport stabbing and lack of action from the government got a strong, very negative response. I know from some right-wingers online and at least two people I know IRL said that this isn't the way to do things but I don't think the government really responds to anything else but this sort of thing really. Then again the pro-Gypsy riot and BLM-inspired riots didn't really cause much to change either, except in the latter it helped to normalise some typically American anti-white rhetoric in some politicians. These riots might've helped Reform as well as put some of the more overt solutions - 'demigration' I.E. deportation, even if bribed - into some mouths. That's why Farage kicked out Lowe, since he was one of the more vocal proponents, but Tice has also expressed similar sentiments. There were also protests/demonstrations in September of last year headed by Tommy Robinson, and there's also the farmer's protests - both of which are received little coverage, and if they are covered, it's in a negative light. But there is a mounting anti-government sentiment across the nation I feel. The youth are also rather discontent.
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@isalaide I didn’t know that, interesting, thanks!
I have an idea, a very bold and stupid one but... maybe the government could stop giving all our money to migrants and putting them up in swanky hotels? Then maybe there'd be enough for our actual citizens here. Madness, I know!
I agree, my personal solution for the disability benefits side of things would be only have them apply for either permanent, lifelong conditions or terminal ones like cancer patients and not for mental health issues like depression or anxiety.

It might be better if those people were instead put in another category, maybe universal credit but without any obligation to seek work and at the same time also be given priority to be seen by the appropriate mental health services so the government can help them back into work or education as soon as possible as letting them stay at home all day will probally just cause their mental health to get worse.
 
It might be better if those people were instead put in another category, maybe universal credit but without any obligation to seek work
That category already exists, it's know as having Limited Capability for Work/Limited Capability for Work Related Activities. Notably it's entirely separate from other stuff like PIP. It's entirely possible to have LCW but not PIP, and even vice versa.
 

That sounds fucking ominous.

Also this;


I love how the amount of Labour MPs is 404, it's just perfect. Starmer has caught wind of the rebellion on its way and is probably going to lay down the threats but I don't think it will work. His welfare proposal for Labour is political suicide because a ton of those Muslims happen to be on those benefits too. His grab for the Muslim vote will disappear and he is handing a win to the Tories immediately. Having 80 upwards is 20% which is a pretty large minority. Additionally, only 18 people supported the bill, to begin with, which is pretty piss poor support that is 4% of the party.

I have a feeling a lot of Labour MPs feel massively conned by Starmer, he led them down the Primrose path to ruin, a point where they are unelectable because every single 1 of their voting points was reneged. Historically Thatcher did something very similar and months later she was out. Starmer also fears huge unrest, he senses his Poll Tax moment is coming and on top of the clear unrest there is about immigration.

All in time for that lovely spring weather.
 
So nice to see that Farage is getting absolutely destroyed. That fucking traitor of a snake had it coming for decades.

I don't think it's something you can reliably predict.

And this is the correct response.

You cannot guess the future, you cannot predict the next moves. If it happens it happens, and if it does happen it will look obvious that it was going to happen with hindsight but not to people having to deal with it at the time.

But if I had to put my 2 cents on it, I would guess a blackout (as in electricity) could trigger. Any modern city about 48 hours without power away from complete chaos.


Oh shit we have a scheduled happening for later this month cool
 
Starmer also fears huge unrest, he senses his Poll Tax moment is coming and on top of the clear unrest there is about immigration.
I think you're overestimating the man. I don't think he 'senses', 'fears', 'feels' or 'believes' anything at all. He's a cricket wearing a person suit. There is nothing behind his eyes. Did you ever listen to him describe his homelife? He walks in, says hello to his kids, sits down at the table for dinner, asks them in sequence what they did that day, goes and does more work, sleeps.

I legit think he might be some sort of philosophical zombie.
 
I think you're overestimating the man. I don't think he 'senses', 'fears', 'feels' or 'believes' anything at all. He's a cricket wearing a person suit. There is nothing behind his eyes. Did you ever listen to him describe his homelife? He walks in, says hello to his kids, sits down at the table for dinner, asks them in sequence what they did that day, goes and does more work, sleeps.

I legit think he might be some sort of philosophical zombie.
I've a sneaky feeling he's a literal psychopath, who is just very practised at playing the part of a normal human.
 
That sounds fucking ominous.

Also this;
It's the draft, isn't it?

The government now controls everything. Eat the pod and live in the bugs or die for american jews via suicide drone in a boggy field because the MIC need more money from adolph putler.
 
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See I was thinking about the draft too he wants his Churchill moment. It will never come Churchill had endearing qualities and Starmer is frankly a psychopath. To do that and announce welfare destruction along with an influx of migrants who we know get 5* treatment is outright retarded. For a while though I think Starmer purposely stokes for riots to garner more control e.g. Southport.

Hearing him describe his life is the most psychopathic shit I have heard. He says "I don't dream.", "I don't have ambitions." The fuck, gratz Kier, Patrick Bateman is more affable than you.

It's really going to pot for them though, the Unions have said Rayner's 1.5 million homes plan is "lunacy" and "grossly under costed". Reeves has been just destroyed and is a joke, even the head of the Treasury refuses to talk to her. Starmer is a joke the EU leaders openly hate him and Trump mocks him openly. Streeting has a department full of nonces and he wants to kill 150,000 trees a year to put little pieces of card in cigarette packets to tell you it's bad. Cooper is a joke and is being mocked by the migration committee for leaking the stats and covering up Southport. Even Mark Rowley of the London Metropolitan is openly calling the government ineffective due to cuts and staffing. The military is even calling out Starmer and saying his plan is stupid and we do not have the capability.

The cabinet and their leader are laughing stocks and even the systems they are dependent on are turning on them, police, military, and unions. What is funnier is this year the migrant wave is set to be worse than the BoJo wave. It would be funnier if we were not subject to this madness but I honestly cannot see him lasting the year, oh and a fucking recession too.
 
Honest to God I am thankful beyond words myself and his nibs are both ill enough (however we both work full time; neither one of us claims disability benefits. Go figure. We must be walking fucking miracles eh?) and old enough we wouldn't be called up.

Starmer is nothing like Churchill. Churchill was a gifted orator. He was intelligent. And above all he had the love of the people.

Starmer is fucking despised by even his own party.

I'd never given much thought about David Ickes beliefs about lizards in people suits but looking at that creature absolutely convinces me Icke is onto something.
 
I'd never given much thought about David Ickes beliefs about lizards in people suits but looking at that creature absolutely convinces me Icke is onto something.
Given his bizarre, stilted mode of speaking i legitimately wonder if he's had a stroke, or a TBI, or something else that stops whatever part of his brain controls emotion and inflection from coming through in his voice.
 
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