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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Sir Baz the Intolerant]

Given his bizarre, stilted mode of speaking i legitimately wonder if he's had a stroke, or a TBI, or something else that stops whatever part of his brain controls emotion and inflection from coming through in his voice.

I'm unironically convinced that Starmer is an Aspie, or whatever branch of autism they call it now.

Firstly, he seems to completely lack theory of mind as he has consistently shown that he is incapable of understanding how other people will perceive his statements and policies, nor is he able to predict how they will react to them no matter how obvious that may be. Just think about how reckless this administration has been in fucking over various portions of society, pensioners, farmers, the disabled, people on benefits, many of which are natural Labour supporters. Now if he was doing this with some sort of strategy to mitigate the fallout then I'd just put him down as evil, but the fact he's been stumbling from one victim group to another without considering how this makes his administration look just lends credance to him being a window licker.

He also seems to view the world in complete absolutes, black or white, with no in between. You see this a lot in how he justifies Labours supposed right to govern with such reckless abandon, despite only receiving around 30% of the vote, which always amounts to him merely stating that well they won and that's just how it works. Again there's an inability to grasp the nuances at play, as while yes Labour did technically win, the way in which they won makes their position tenuous and they should therefore be more cautious. But that's how a normal person would view things, an autistic retard just sees they got the bigger number and that means they can do whatever they want because that's what the rules say.

And finally as a wee anecdote, I have a relative that was diagnosed with Asperger's back when it was still medically recognised, and that completely flat, stilted cadence that Starmer has is identical to how he speaks. So much so that if wasn't for having a different accent you'd probably have a hard time telling them apart by speech alone. He also is a genuine psycopath that has no empathy for anyone, and would absolutely behave exactly like Starmer if he was in the same position.

 

[Tzeentch]

Godfrey Bloom on the Jolly Heretic is going over his experiences and thoughts over the Nigel Farage situation. Basically confirms a lot more of what we already know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktTtjzwvKT0

 

[BongoMongo]

The thing about unemployment benefits is,he amount you get if you've no children is insultingly, pitifully low. I have no debt and I struggled on it. There is a slew of non-cash benefits (free to you bus passes, funds towards clothing for interviews, energy vouchers via the energy redress scheme, so called social tariffs fo mobile and broadband bills) but these depend on 1. You knowing how to ask and present yourself 2. How nice your job center advisor is (I was lucky. Mine was an absolute treasure of a woman) and 3. In the case of social tariffs the staff at your mobile or broadband provider not being total wallopers.


The biggest issue with it though, in my experience,is that far,far too many people view an easy life on benefits as a birthright, and that these idle fuckers simply do not want to get a job.

By far and away the most depressing thing about the job center, for me, was the the poor woman who was assigned to me was so surprised I was actively looking for a job. That's fucking grim.

We've allowed a generation of bone idle bastards to spawn and we're reaping what we've sown.

Even if we deported every immigrant taking up a low skilled job tomorrow,we would be left with a significant number of shiftless fucks who do not want to work or contribute in any meaningful way.

 

[Otterly]

Starmer also fears huge unrest, he senses his Poll Tax moment is coming

I’d prefer a Johan de Witt moment.

But if I had to put my 2 cents on it, I would guess a blackout (as in electricity) could trigger. Any modern city about 48 hours without power away from complete chaos.

I also think this. What would happen is not whites going out and rioting first though, it’d be widespread brown-based looting, rape and crime. It would be so obvious and damaging that it would make the most bovine of plebs realise something needs to be done.

I heard on the radio yesterday that they're clearing prisons to make room for rioters now that we're approaching spring. I guess they know they aren't popular. No, don't change your policies, just lock everyone up!

How much can they do this though? We going to release every criminal who DID something bad and replace the with people who SAID something starmer doesn’t like? (Yes we are!)
The black and white thinking is classic personality disorder prog stuff. You’re a goodie or a baddie and if you’re a baddie this week then anything we do to you is good, and everything we do is good, because we are the goodies. This is the leftist mind.
And even if starmer gets ousted, whomever replaces him will be just as bad. We need labour OUT. We need people to stand up for their rights and demand freedom if speech and expression and the law to be applied justly and consistently. We need the actual criminals locking up. And we need a lot of deportations.

 

[Coolio55]

By far and away the most depressing thing about the job center, for me, was the the poor woman who was assigned to me was so surprised I was actively looking for a job. That's fucking grim

I remember going to one as a teenager and them getting confused and telling me to go to the website if I was looking for a job.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Godfrey Bloom on the Jolly Heretic is going over his experiences and thoughts over the Nigel Farage situation. Basically confirms a lot more of what we already know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktTtjzwvKT0

Listening right now. He's nailing it so far.

Farage is an egotist who hates anyone smarter than him and goes to extremes to isolate and punish anyone who appears to know more than he does, about anything. He should have joined the metropolitan police rather than gone into politics; it fits his personality far better. He'd have made chief superintendant by now.

 

[Smyrna]

Earlier this morning, Rupert put out a Xeet stating, amongst other things, that Farage's acolytes attempted to rewrite a speech he made by removing a pledge to remove the relatives of those convicted of involvement in the Pakistani rape gangs.

https://nitter.net/RupertLowe10/status/1899716465667842425

Farage responded in the Telegraph by confirming this - he wanted language around 'mass deportations' and 'repatriations' removed as he felt it was "a very grave, dark and dangerous use of language" (direct quote).

https://archive.ph/s3WdG

So if you were looking for evidence of Reform's softening\containment strategy from a 'proper' source, you now have it from the man himself.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Listening right now. He's nailing it so far.

Farage is an egotist who hates anyone smarter than him and goes to extremes to isolate and punish anyone who appears to know more than he does, about anything. He should have joined the metropolitan police rather than gone into politics; it fits his personality far better. He'd have made chief superintendant by now.

Per the Lotus Eaters boys, Farage intended Reform to be the British version of the PVV (Geert Wilders' party) but didn't account for the fact that under first past the post you need a wide array of talent to stand in various counties or shires or whatever the fuck they call them over there. So Lowe's big faux pas, apparently, was trying to move Reform away from the Nigel Show and into something structured more like a real party.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Earlier this morning, Rupert put out a Xeet stating, amongst other things, that Farage's acolytes attempted to rewrite a speech he made by removing a pledge to remove the relatives of those convicted of involvement in the Pakistani rape gangs.

https://nitter.net/RupertLowe10/status/1899716465667842425

Farage responded in the Telegraph by confirming this - he wanted language around 'mass deportations' and 'repatriations' removed as he felt it was "a very grave, dark and dangerous use of language" (direct quote).

https://archive.ph/s3WdG

So if you were looking for evidence of Reform's softening\containment strategy from a 'proper' source, you now have it from the man himself.

The only optimistic/cope-fuelled way to look at this whole situation is that Farage is maintaining kayfabe, and we're so used to him backstabbing his own supporters, that we'll never see him backstabbing muzzies via action and rhetoric when/if he wins the general election. Unfortunately I held the same hope for the CDU in Germany. All we can really hope — if Reform is still the only viable avenue for change we have if another party doesn't arise and pretty much performs as well as Reform does currently in polling — is that Farage's ego and desire to be liked will overpower his desire to be seen as the only capable person on the British-right. I imagine his appearance on I'm a Celeb would infer he'd prefer the former, but he's so frequently culled and suppressed anyone else equally if not more capable and as known as he is, that it could be a toss-up. If enough people shout at him from both below and at his sides, Lowe might make it back in — Farage taking all the credit for getting him exonerated of course, and thus reminding Lowe that he should be grateful.

 

[Kier Starmer]

Mergoth's video on Farage was a banger but I am sure his theory about Farage going progressively to the left is true. I read that article in the Telegraph it was as though someone from Tumblr wrote it.

 

[Smyrna]

The only optimistic/cope-fuelled way to look at this whole situation is that Farage is maintaining kayfabe, and we're so used to him backstabbing his own supporters, that we'll never see him backstabbing muzzies via action and rhetoric when/if he wins the general election. Unfortunately I held the same hope for the CDU in Germany. All we can really hope — if Reform is still the only viable avenue for change we have if another party doesn't arise and pretty much performs as well as Reform does currently in polling — is that Farage's ego and desire to be liked will overpower his desire to be seen as the only capable person on the British-right. I imagine his appearance on I'm a Celeb would infer he'd prefer the former, but he's so frequently culled and suppressed anyone else equally if not more capable and as known as he is, that it could be a toss-up. If enough people shout at him from both below and at his sides, Lowe might make it back in — Farage taking all the credit for getting him exonerated of course, and thus reminding Lowe that he should be grateful.

On the contrary, I think there are several reasons to be optimistic right now.

-Farage has, over the course of the last few days, shown his whole arse in public. No-one serious can handwave away who he actually is, how he actually operates, and what he actually wants, which is the trappings of high office. He doesn't want to do anything radical to fix the situation, he wants to be PM. Why should this inspire optimism? Because it means that intelligent people who actually want to effect change will no longer have anything to do with him. The best activists and thinkers, if they joined Reform, will now be questioning their future. They are no longer going to get out and campaign in May. What is Farage left with? The Boomerwaffen and a few younger people who are presumably still stuck in the sunk cost fallacy, or who can't\won't admit that they were led up the garden path. A very weak foundation for campaigning.

-The desire for actual change is real and growing. I did not think that Reform would have reached the mid- to high-20s in polling within a year, but they did. I certainly didn't think they would reach 200,000 members ever. Why did they grow so fast when UKIP never got anywhere close to that? What's changed? It can't be Farage - he's the leader of both parties. It has to be something more intrinsic rather than affection for\belief in one individual.

-With those 2 points combined, there is a clear opportunity for a party to seize the crown of reform (small r) from the gutter. It could be a group led by Lowe with funding from Musk and others - if they learn the lessons of the past few months, in the same way that Trump learned from his first term, there is plenty of time (4 years plus) to build something that does offer meaningful change. Rupert describes himself as an amateur at politics, that he is still learning. If he continues to apply what he learns, change remains possible.

Spam me with rainbows if you must, but I'm not changing my mood yet.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Per the Lotus Eaters boys,

Them turning on Farage after glazing him for years and taking no responsibility for pushing him and his Party has been funny.

Parties need to stay away from Sargon, he will kill all the ones he likes on accident. Lmao.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Honestly them turning on Farage after glazing him for years and taking no responsibility for pushing him and his Party has been funny.

Honestly Parties need to stay away from Sargon, he will kill all the ones he likes on accident. Lmao.

Given the absolute state of British politics, it's not like they're spoiled for choice.

 

[FedPostalService]

Guys, you’re all forgetting most people are retards who don’t follow the news closely.

People who like him will see him pulling a face whilst holding a pint in six months time and will still like him because they’re retards from the South.

The enlightened Southerners of this board can scream at them until they are blue in the face but you can’t argue with retards who fall for cults of personality.

 

[Mound Dweller]

Guys, you’re all forgetting most people are retards who don’t follow the news closely.

People who like him will see him pulling a face whilst holding a pint in six months time and will still like him because they’re retards from the South.

The enlightened Southerners of this board can scream at them until they are blue in the face but you can’t argue with retards who fall for cults of personality.

Shit can be washed off but sometimes it's made of a particular vicious curry and it actually sticks, shit like the partygate debacle for instance, while it was a media plant it was the sort of thing that once learned people don't forget nevermind forgive.
If Niggel doesn't handle this properly he's not getting out of the septic tank, having a muzzie poojeet for chairman spread the cheeks and now Lowe is aiming.

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

Guys, you’re all forgetting most people are retards who don’t follow the news closely.

People who like him will see him pulling a face whilst holding a pint in six months time and will still like him because they’re retards from the South.

The enlightened Southerners of this board can scream at them until they are blue in the face but you can’t argue with retards who fall for cults of personality.

Indeed. Currently the most likely result is that Reform's momentum stalls, but all the base that is upset over Lowe has nowhere to go and ends up doing nothing, while Reform continues their amateur hour activities because Are Nige doesn't want to be PM if it means doing hard work.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

So heres a question: if Lowe is on the outs with Reform but has his own dedicated following, is there any chance he can't join (rejoin?) the Tories and attempt to challenge Badenoch for leadership? Basically pull a Trump?

 

[Chunky Salsa]

So heres a question: if Lowe is on the outs with Reform but has his own dedicated following, is there any chance he can't join (rejoin?) the Tories and attempt to challenge Badenoch for leadership? Basically pull a Trump?

No, because the tories will simply subsume him. Our political structure is well and truly riddled with rot. If he rejoined them, they'd simply contain him, and things would return to the status quo of everything getting worse year on year consistently.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

So heres a question: if Lowe is on the outs with Reform but has his own dedicated following, is there any chance he can't join (rejoin?) the Tories and attempt to challenge Badenoch for leadership? Basically pull a Trump?

I think a key problem is Lowe is actually centre right. Although the party members themselves also appear(ed) to be, they voted in Liz Truss who was the most right wing of the candidates in the previous round before an exodus to reform or to be partyless, the grandees are not.

Jenrick isn't a particuarly conservative candidate, and he's considered by the Tories to be too much.

Part of Lowe's 'thing' as well is that he's supposed to be dismantling the uni party, not hijacking a corpse.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

There's a bill being pushed through the House at the moment that would make pub landlords legally liable to naughty words said in pubs. If an employee of a pub hears some naughty words that offend them, they can sue the pub for what the patron has said.

Dubbed "the ban on bants" this could be a very, very interesting development. It isn't just restricted to pubs, but includes sports venues and anywhere you would generally find norff FC moaning about two-tier queer.