UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Geoff Capes Vapes Apes · Mar 12, 2025

Bog-standard Poster said:
There's a bill being pushed through the House at the moment that would make pub landlords legally liable to naughty words said in pubs. If an employee of a pub hears some naughty words that offend them, they can sue the pub for what the patron has said.

Dubbed "the ban on bants" this could be a very, very interesting development. It isn't just restricted to pubs, but includes sports venues and anywhere you would generally find norff FC moaning about two-tier queer.

Yes, tighten the lid on the pressure cooker, that will help matters. If you can't see a thing, it isn't happening!

teriyakiburns · Mar 12, 2025

Geoff Capes Vapes Apes said:
Yes, tighten the lid on the pressure cooker, that will help matters. If you can't see a thing, it isn't happening!

next step is presumably setting up work camps on the shetlands and transporting wrongthinkers there. Gulag Archipelago 2: Electric Brae Igloo.

Krokodil Overdose · Mar 12, 2025

teriyakiburns said:
next step is presumably setting up work camps on the shetlands and transporting wrongthinkers there. Gulag Archipelago 2: Electric Brae Igloo.

At this rate the concentration camp will just be thr isles. "Woke North Korea" indeed.

The Crack Spiders Bitch · Mar 12, 2025

teriyakiburns said:
next step is presumably setting up work camps on the shetlands and transporting wrongthinkers there. Gulag Archipelago 2: Electric Brae Igloo.

A prisoner work camp for misbehaving Brits you say?

Your separate enclave on the Shetlands will be great and safe...for about 200 years until the brown menace infests that too.

Morethanabitfoolish · Mar 12, 2025

Birmingham's intermittent bin strikes are going full time now.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/11/bin-strike-birmingham-rubbish-workers-council

Rubbish is piling up on the streets of Birmingham as bin workers launched an all-out indefinite strike, with the council accusing the union of holding the city hostage.

Almost 400 workers in Birmingham, who have been striking intermittently since January in an escalating row over the scrapping of some roles, began the all-out strike from 6am on Tuesday. More than 1 million people are likely to be affected.

Across the city there have been reports of overflowing bins and bags of rubbish piled high in the streets, with rat infestations increasing as a result.

Craig Cooper, the strategic director of city operations at the council, told BBC Radio WM that the authority was “looking for this to stop as quickly as possible but the trade unions don’t seem to want to negotiate”.

“I feel that they are holding us and our residents hostage,” he said. “I understand the frustration of residents and we recognise we need to create a modern, sustainable and reliable service.” He added that the service had “not acted effectively for a very long time”.

Zoe Mayou, from the union Unite, said it wanted “to meet with Birmingham city council and have productive talks”.

“They know what we want. They are the ones holding the city to ransom – certainly not us,” she said.

Police were called in on Tuesday morning to allow agency bin workers drafted in by the council to leave the depot. Cooper said 90 crews, compared with the usual 200, went out on collection rounds.

Mayou said the number of police officers brought in was “overkill”. “We’re doing a legitimate picket line and the amount of police here is just unbelievable, I just don’t understand why there are so many here,” she said.

Residents have been urged to leave rubbish out as normal, although they have been warned it may take longer for it to be collected.

Unite said the industrial action had been stepped up, and could last into the summer because of the council’s use of temporary labour to replace striking crews.

“The disgraceful use of unlawful labour to try and break the strike has just resulted in industrial action escalating. The only way this dispute will end is by halting the brutal and unnecessary attacks on our members’ pay,” said the Unite general secretary, Sharon Graham.

The action was triggered by the council’s decision to remove the role of waste recycling and collection officer, responsible for safety at the back of a refuse collection lorry, from its fleets.

The union claims this is a “safety-critical role” and will lead to affected workers losing £8,000 in their salary, as well as cutting off a “fair path for pay progression”.

The council disputes this. Cooper said the role was “not critical to health and safety” as all workers shared responsibility for this. He added that the role was not available nationally.

The council said 170 staff members were affected by the move, and about 130 of these had accepted roles in other parts of the council on the same pay grade, while others have opted to train for more advanced roles. It claimed 17 staff members could lose the maximum amount from their salary, and that this was £6,000, not £8,000.

Birmingham city council, which declared itself in effect bankrupt in 2023, is being overseen by government commissioners, with plans under way to cut hundreds of jobs and sell off assets to help balance the books.

In Bristol, the ruling Green party administration announced it would not be supporting a proposal to collect residents’ black bins only once every four weeks, rather than fortnightly.

Bristol council had launched a six-week consultation that included the option of switching to monthly bin collections to save more than £2m a year and increase recycling rates.

More 12,000 people signed a petition organised by the Labour party opposing the changes.

Any decision to change the frequency of waste collections is responsibility of the cross-party environment and sustainability committee, which is chaired by the Green party councillor Martin Fodor.

“The four-weekly option was put in the consultation as an outlier for modelling purposes and I made clear it was always unlikely to go ahead,” Fodor said.

“Based on what we’ve heard and the strength of feeling that this has generated across the city, the Greens will not be supporting any proposals put forward to move to four-weekly collections at this time.

“The full results of the consultation will be presented to a cross-party group to decide on any changes to our waste and recycling services.”

Other options, including a move from fortnightly to three-weekly collections, are still on the table.

A large number of people in response to this will start fly tipping. When the bins resume they will not be cleaning that up, just their BAU stuff. It's going to get deeply unpleasant.

Lancashire's combined country authority have met as Labour continue with those insane schemes. I'll like to the article but honestly a picture says a thousand words.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjry0ge0nlwo

Remember the Rwanda scheme that everyone rent their garments over and Labour scrapped as soon as they got in? Guess what the EU just decided to do (I'm using the Guardian article rather than the Telegraph one to feign a degree of neutrality)

https://archive.ph/NW5hK

The European Commission has outlined proposals to increase deportations of people with no legal right to stay in the EU, but critics said it had opened the door to “prolonged detention” of people with plans for offshore detention centres.
The plans for a European returns system published on Tuesday came after EU leaders demanded “innovative solutions” to deal with undocumented migrants, in response to gains made by the far-right in last year’s European elections.

The commission said it was proposing “effective and modern procedures” that would increase returns of people denied asylum or who had overstayed their visa. Only one in five people without the right to stay are returned to their country of origin, a figure that has changed little in recent years.

The draft regulation, which would have to be agreed by EU ministers and MEPs, would create a European Return Order, to ensure that an order to leave a member state would function as an order to leave the EU.
People deemed to be a flight risk could also be detained for up to two years, compared with 18 months under existing law.
The regulation also imposes conditions on EU member states seeking to strike deals with non-EU countries to create offshore centres for deported people, otherwise known as “return hubs”. Unlike Italy’s agreement with Albania, or the previous British government’s Rwanda deal, EU return hubs would not be used to hold asylum seekers, only people denied the right to stay.
EU governments negotiating such deals would have to ensure respect for fundamental rights, including no pushbacks, according to the draft legal text. Unaccompanied minors and families with children would also be excluded from such arrangements.
The International Rescue Committee said many questions remained unanswered, including how long people would be forced to stay in the centres and how the EU would ensure their rights were safeguarded in non-EU countries.
“While it’s unclear exactly what form the EU’s proposed return hubs would take, we do know that its existing migration deals with non-EU countries have resulted in thousands of refugees and other migrants being exposed to violence, abuse, exploitation and death,” said Marta Welander, the EU advocacy director at IRC.
The plans were welcomed by the centre-right European People’s party, but the Greens and the left raised concerns.
Tineke Strik, a Dutch Green MEP on the European parliament’s civil liberties, justice and home affairs committee, said return hubs would “inevitably lead to prolonged detention and pose very real practical and legal risks when it comes to upholding fundamental rights under other countries’ judicial systems”.
She added that the use of return hubs “shifts responsibility for taking care of people needing to return from the EU to third countries” and distracted from working on efficient return procedures and cooperation with countries of origin.
European Commission officials said EU countries negotiating “return hubs” would have to respect EU law and international human rights standards precisely “to avoid the situation of having a legal limbo”, but did not confirm whether the two-year limit on detention would apply outside the bloc.
Henna Virkkunen, the commission’s executive vice-president in charge of security, said migration had been exploited by populists for political gain: “When people with no right to stay remain at the EU, the credibility of our entire migration policy is undermined.”
Magnus Brunner, the body’s commissioner for migration, rejected comparisons with Italy’s Albania deal or the abandoned UK-Rwanda agreement, because return hubs would not apply to asylum seekers.
Questions remain over which countries would agree to host return hubs, which would be negotiated by EU member states, rather than Brussels. Brunner said: “Whether we find the third countries as well, that is a question of agreements and negotiations.”
Last year, just over 1 million people sought asylum in Europe’s border-free Schengen area, an 11% decrease on the previous year, but the second straight year that asylum claims exceeded 1m since 2015-16, according to the European Union Agency for Asylum. In 2024, only 42% of asylum claims were accepted.
The EU last year passed a sweeping set of measures to manage migration, which are mostly yet to be implemented, but was unable to agree on an updated deportation law. The commission promised to fill that gap, after the far-right made big gains in the 2024 European parliament elections, which were widely perceived to be in response to migration.

And in more Labour don't have a clue news Reeves thinks the last time a runway was built in this country was in the 1940s. Between Diane Abbot's maths skills and her history skills I'm torn who's worse

https://archive.ph/0OfQT

A veteran Greater Manchester MP has called for Treasury officials to be taken around the English regions by coach after he was left 'shocked' by a comment made by the Chancellor on airport runways.
Graham Stringer, the Labour MP for Blackley and Middleton South, hit out at what he called 'startling ignorance of the English regions' on the part of 'many officials in the Treasury'.

He said Ms Reeves told the BBC 'the last time we built a runway in this country was in the 1940s' while speaking about proposals for a third runway at Heathrow Airport in London.
Mr Stringer, a former chairman of Manchester Airport's board, said: "Manchester Airport would be very surprised to hear that because the new runway there has been operating for nearly 25 years.
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"I was shocked by that but not really surprised because I think many of the officials in the Treasury who advise her show a startling ignorance of the English regions and that leads to a certain prejudice in the formula they use for calculating whether a scheme should go ahead."

Mr Stringer, also a former leader of Manchester city council, also suggested the Treasury should look again at the formulas used to map out future economic growth,
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The MP added: "Can the Treasury minister (Darren Jones) and the rest of the Treasury team provide coaches to send Treasury officials 'round the English regions to talk to people who know about growth, and secondly, will he look at the formulas that are biased against the regions that decide where economic growth happens?”
Mr Jones replied: "I can confirm that Treasury officials routinely engage with local and regional officials across the country, including frequently in Manchester with mayor (Andy) Burnham and his team.
"I would point him gently to some of the announcements made by the Chancellor including support for the Old Trafford development in Manchester, and of course, congratulate the operators of Manchester Airport for running a successful business which we will continue to support in the normal way."

Manchester Airport's second runway opened in February 2001 and was the first major airport runway to open in the UK for more than 20 years.

GratsTheat783 · Mar 12, 2025

Morethanabitfoolish said:
A large number of people in response to this will start fly tipping. When the bins resume they will not be cleaning that up, just their BAU stuff. It's going to get deeply unpleasant.

Josh said in one of his livestreams that when trash stops getting picked up off the street, that's a sign you should get out while you can.

Krokodil Overdose · Mar 12, 2025

GratsTheat783 said:
Josh said in one of his livestreams that when trash stops getting picked up off the street, that's a sign you should get out while you can.

This is literally part of the setup for Joker. life imitates art (Though the stabbings precede the garbage strike this time.)

Whoopsie Daisy · Mar 12, 2025

Morethanabitfoolish said:
A large number of people in response to this will start fly tipping.

It's birmingham, how can they tell what is fly tipping and what is the shithole that is birmingham? Just bulldoze the whole city into the sea and have done.

Morethanabitfoolish · Mar 12, 2025

GratsTheat783 said:
Josh said in one of his livestreams that when trash stops getting picked up off the street, that's a sign you should get out while you can.

Wise advice, though this is not the street cleaners but rather the regular collection of waste from people's bins. Very similar.

Bog-standard Poster said:
It's birmingham, how can they tell what is fly tipping and what is the shithole that is birmingham? Just bulldoze the whole city into the sea and have done.

Lots of people fly tip just out of basic laziness or an attitude of, "not my problem." When you have nowhere at home to put the rubbish and no sign that the waste will be emptied from the bin any time soon then desperation will become a motivator that makes a lot more people do that who normally would not.

teriyakiburns · Mar 12, 2025

GratsTheat783 said:
Josh said in one of his livestreams that when trash stops getting picked up off the street, that's a sign you should get out while you can.

He's right, but wrong at the same time. He's talking about the collapse of services due to a general breakdown of social norms, which has no obvious end other than some form of total collapse and revolution. Strikes don't fit into that. The strikes in 79 saw rubbish pilling up for weeks, but it was resolved eventually.

Bog-standard Poster said:
It's birmingham, how can they tell what is fly tipping and what is the shithole that is birmingham? Just bulldoze the whole city into the sea and have done.

They did that for the commonwealth games. Didn't work.

Whoopsie Daisy · Mar 12, 2025

Morethanabitfoolish said:
Lots of people fly tip just out of basic laziness or an attitude of, "not my problem." When you have nowhere at home to put the rubbish and no sign that the waste will be emptied from the bin any time soon then desperation will become a motivator that makes a lot more people do that who normally would not.

I wouldn't say it's laziness. The council tips have been closed left, right and centre, all over the country. The ones that have remained open have retarded environmental policies, far beyond "put garden waste in this skip and wood in this skip".
The last time I went to a tip, I could only take 10 breeze blocks a day and I was only allowed 2 drop offs a month. What is one to do with waste when a skip was £170 - which I would have paid if not for the council banning me from putting it on my front garden without a permit and banning it from being on the road due to obstruction of vehicles (it's no larger than my car) or on the footpath for obstruction of people.

At some point, when you've tried the legal avenues, you say "fuck it". Wang it all in a van and drop it near a building site.

6MillionCoofs · Mar 12, 2025

Bog-standard Poster said:
At some point, when you've tried the legal avenues, you say "fuck it". Wang it all in a van and drop it near a building site.

Well, as you yourself pointed out, you did not try all legal avenues. You did not get a permit. Meaning it was in fact laziness. This is what it always comes down to.

There is an easy solution though. Just don’t be White. They will ignore you breaking the rules then.

Whoopsie Daisy · Mar 12, 2025

6MillionCoofs said:
Well, as you yourself pointed out, you did not try all legal avenues. You did not get a permit. Meaning it was in fact laziness. This is what it always comes down to.

The permit took 6-8 weeks to obtain and the skip location was subject to an inspection, plus they wanted to know what waste I was throwing away in quantities of Kg.
You can keep your moralfagging for someone else, i'm not jumping through ridiculous hoops to dispose of material that could go to a skip, be ground down and recycled, when the council make it as hard as possible to do so and stop the recycling of material because of muh environment.

Laziness would have been fly-tipping it without going to a tip.

Turquoise · Mar 12, 2025

Detritus on the streets of London
Garbage on the streets of Birmingham
I wonder to myself
"Could Britain ever be clean again?"

Kier Starmer · Mar 12, 2025

Guys I am getting a tingling sensation, my happening sense is tingling;

Here is what is unfolding;

A KC calls out Southport as a cover-up and calls Starmer inept.
There is a leaker in the home office leaking bills and policies to international media outlets and they are picking it up days in advance but here is the thing because of the nature of what is being leaked it cannot be the home office but the cabinet itself due to detail.
Starmer is withdrawing the welfare cuts, for now, I think his meeting in 10 Downing Street did not go to plan.
The cabinet is scrambling trying to figure out who the leaker meaning it is probably from the inside.
A 20%-30% faction of Labour MPs are making their discontent known. How do we know this the reports said 80 but said up to 100 meaning they essentially told on themselves.
UK businesses are starting to cave in, and Poundland is most likely going into administration.
35% slashed jobs in the NHS and 15% in the Department of Health. Unions are pissed.
A letter was sent out to civil servants from Starmer saying what a good job they were doing a great job but "tough choices are coming" aka cuts.
Councils are going bankrupt and staff are going on strike.
Twitter, Facebook Reddit, and sites like this are being used to voice their dissent and it is starting to piss off the Government because other powers will call them out.

The last point is over a few months, but the previous points are in the last days. Also stopping people from talking in pubs will make it work, historically this is the worst thing to do, for fucks sake you have political researchers ask them to research the results.

Morethanabitfoolish · Mar 13, 2025

Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
A KC calls out Southport as a cover-up and calls Starmer inept.

Which KC, current or former? Because any sitting one doing that and keeping their job seems unlikely,

Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
There is a leaker in the home office leaking bills and policies to international media outlets and they are picking it up days in advance but here is the thing because of the nature of what is being leaked it cannot be the home office but the cabinet itself due to detail.

Normal in all governments. In times of crisis, "let's brief against one another," was a running joke for what the cabinets do because they cannot stop themselves from backstabbing when things are bad

Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
Starmer is withdrawing the welfare cuts, for now, I think his meeting in 10 Downing Street did not go to plan.

Is he? Because looking up his name all the news articles nothing seems to be indicating a U-turn

Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
UK businesses are starting to cave in, and Poundland is most likely going into administration.

https://archive.ph/5DkzY

Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
35% slashed jobs in the NHS and 15% in the Department of Health. Unions are pissed.

https://archive.ph/n2lPP not an exact match but close

Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
A letter was sent out to civil servants from Starmer saying what a good job they were doing a great job but "tough choices are coming" aka cuts.

Saw that one.

https://archive.ph/lQWpZ

He's also continuing to sprout Tony's line about replacing them with AI.

https://archive.ph/Hnojk

teriyakiburns · Mar 13, 2025

Morethanabitfoolish said:
He's also continuing to sprout Tony's line about replacing them with AI.

This is the most horrifying idea. Civil servants may be bad, but they can at least be reasoned with, and are capable of flexibility in the right circumstances; you can appeal to ego as a last resort. An automated system will be exponentially worse than the worst jumped up department sub-manager, because it will have no latitude. The rules will be followed to the letter. Go away and die now.

Morethanabitfoolish · Mar 13, 2025

teriyakiburns said:
The rules will be followed to the letter

And be written by people who hate us

isalaide · Mar 13, 2025

No one tell Elon that the guy he wants to give all this money to to lead the Reform Party sent Southampton into bankruptcy. Let's let him find out for himself how good Rupert Lowe is with other people's money.

John Shedletsky · Mar 13, 2025

So, uh, how are you britbongs doing?

UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Geoff Capes Vapes Apes

Budgie Admirer

teriyakiburns

If a cow got the chance, he'd eat you!

Krokodil Overdose

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The Crack Spiders Bitch

Out getting slizzard 🍸🎉

Morethanabitfoolish

Bruh.

GratsTheat783

Krokodil Overdose

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Whoopsie Daisy

Ask me about how teen boys deserve to be molested

Morethanabitfoolish

Bruh.

teriyakiburns

If a cow got the chance, he'd eat you!

Whoopsie Daisy

Ask me about how teen boys deserve to be molested

6MillionCoofs

Whoopsie Daisy

Ask me about how teen boys deserve to be molested

Turquoise

Kier Starmer

PM of Island of Strangers

Morethanabitfoolish

Bruh.

teriyakiburns

If a cow got the chance, he'd eat you!

Morethanabitfoolish

Bruh.

isalaide

has no gun and a bad lawyer

John Shedletsky

The True & Honest Roblox developer.