DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell: General Discussion #2

[Sheriff of CWCville]

I wonder if PPP was actually genuine about reforming Phil, or was used by Kino as bait. Kino Casino is a drama news front after all. I won't be surprised if he was just used by the higher-ups to provoke a reaction without telling him.

I personally believe PPP saw this as a little game for himself, to see if he was slick enough to reform the image of someone so dumb and derided. Just bit off more than he could chew (ironic).

 

[Coke Zero]

I wonder if PPP was actually genuine about reforming Phil, or was used by Kino as bait. Kino Casino is a drama news front after all. I won't be surprised if he was just used by the higher-ups to provoke a reaction without telling him.

I think ppp legitimately did want to help phil on some level and he did actually want to troll the detractors. I think the plan was to at least turn phil into a character they could make content with regularly, but phil is just too boring and autistic to make anything other than low effort slop so it's just never going to work.

If phil had went on kino casino the first time and made really funny jokes and told interesting stories and stuff like that, he could have had an actual resurgence. Instead he was kind of just there nodding along and goat laughing and occasionally agreeing with ppp and andy. He had no energy or anything interesting to say. You could tell warski was checked out pretty early on with the dsp stuff but ppp kept working at it until he finally snapped.

Also though like ppp said last night, it was phil who came to them first. Its not like there was some master plan being orchestrated by ppp and warksi to reel phil in. Phil really just randomly fell into their lap and they used the opportunity to get content out of him.

 

[Pargon]

You read my mind.

The idea of Khat trying to convince Phil that she was possessed by demons when she ate all the pizzas is too funny to not be true.

This made something occur to me. If Kat is having or recently had some sort of mental-emotional disturbance, and if their relationship is now on the rocks, this would mirror exactly how his relationship with Leanna crumbled. Phil’s significant other has a breakdown and leaves him shortly after.

This food for thought is delicious

 

[San Dimas High School]

They order/buy like $20,000 worth of groceries every 3 days (according to the fake bank leaks) on top of doordash slop so they could seriously just order healthier shit.

He took her to Burger King for her birthday. It's fucking bananas to me that they live where they do and eat like they do. He can get really high quality food for the same price and less. He could stop filling his refrigerator with goyslop and hire her a personal trainer. Or go walk up a mountain with her, look at a waterfall, look at some abandoned army bunkers. It's like every time he is faced with a decision he thinks about it and makes the absolute worst choice 100% of the time.

All that said, Kat's ultimately responsible for herself. What's crazy is she's certainly got more of a support network there than he does. She actually leaves the house and talks to real people every now and then, so I have a hard time feeling like she's his victim.

 

[PieceofShet]

Hope he received that 40dollars tip he was promised to make a stand.

 

[Guinan's hats]

It's nice to imagine Phil getting divorced, but Kat's not going anywhere. If this relationship is really as emotionally abusive as it looks from our limited perspective, and she lacks any kind of social support structure that ordinary women would have (friends, family), her health problems will only make her more trapped.

 

[GameratePTSD]

I think ppp legitimately did want to help phil on some level and he did actually want to troll the detractors. I think the plan was to at least turn phil into a character they could make content with regularly, but phil is just too boring and autistic to make anything other than low effort slop so it's just never going to work.

If phil had went on kino casino the first time and made really funny jokes and told interesting stories and stuff like that, he could have had an actual resurgence. Instead he was kind of just there nodding along and goat laughing and occasionally agreeing with ppp and andy. He had no energy or anything interesting to say. You could tell warski was checked out pretty early on with the dsp stuff but ppp kept working at it until he finally snapped.

Also though like ppp said last night, it was phil who came to them first. Its not like there was some master plan being orchestrated by ppp and warksi to reel phil in. Phil really just randomly fell into their lap and they used the opportunity to get content out of him.

I think they wanted Phil to be their lolcow, not in the sense of picking on him but in the sense of "he's one of us". "One of the boys". They wanted Phil to actually engage with this stuff and create content for the show, but he showed up with no prepwork, no energy, just expecting a cheque like his mere presence earned him royalty fees. HE'S A BUM. HE'S FAT. HE'S BROKE. HE'S BALD.

 

[Skippy Shortbottom]

I'm a few pages behind but I was able to process the whole thing better because I am somewhat retarded that way.
Like, "we told you so" type of shit. We all knew this.

But the thing is, we saw it happen real time of exactly why Phil is more than an autistic bumbling fool that can't have friends, do business, or be professional in any sense. We saw P^cubed take this guy in, try and prop him up, and he witnessed first hand what its like.
It's just a bit reassuring that even just watching and observing the guy, we can pinpoint his problems and then for the fat nigga to go up to him and deal with him personally, he can actually see like, yeah this guy fuckin' sucks.

Phil hasn't faked cancer like Boogie, but he's on the path of faking everyone elses illness around him. Really makes you question T's relationship and the death of him. It's coming close to how he views friendships and how much he's using everyone around him for sympathy.

 

[neger psykolog]

Phil hasn't faked cancer like Boogie, but he's on the path of faking everyone elses illness around him. Really makes you question T's relationship and the death of him. It's coming close to how he views friendships and how much he's using everyone around him for sympathy.

He didn't fake cancer, he just lied to mentally disabled people about his finances so that he could keep up his addiction to WWE Champions. And then once he finally admitted to it, he tried to lie again that he sold the account.

He lied to PPP about how much he had spent and said that TJgamebox's calculations were off.

And then when PPP got him a bunch of money/attention he still fucking squandered it all on WWEC, door dash and booze and didn't do a single thing to improve himself.

DSP lies so much that he may as well have faked cancer at this point. He even lies to himself to justify all this shitty stuff.

 

[strandedcastaway]

I think they wanted Phil to be their lolcow, not in the sense of picking on him but in the sense of "he's one of us". "One of the boys". They wanted Phil to actually engage with this stuff and create content for the show, but he showed up with no prepwork, no energy, just expecting a cheque like his mere presence earned him royalty fees. HE'S A BUM. HE'S FAT. HE'S BROKE. HE'S BALD.

He wasn't out to hurt or help Phil, just use him for entertainment. When Phil wouldn't allow anything entertaining to actually happen on stream, it turned to pointing out the harsh realities of Phil's life (the shit detractors mention daily that Phil says are "memes from a decade go") for humor. Phil was making a lot of money so he bent over and took it for months before finally breaking it off. Then yesterday PPP finally buried Phil 6 feet under and confirmed that ALL of the memes (Phil lies about literally everything, that he's a drunk, lonely, desperate, pathetic, lazy, useless) are true.

A great service done for all and possibly sealing the deal on Phil's fate. If the KC dents stop giving him money, Phil's done. If they enjoy the show enough to keep donating, this could go on indefinitely.

 

[neger psykolog]

He wasn't out to hurt or help Phil, just use him for entertainment. When Phil wouldn't allow anything entertaining to actually happen on stream, it turned to pointing out the harsh realities of Phil's life (the shit detractors mention daily that Phil says are "memes from a decade go") for humor. Phil was making a lot of money so he bent over and took it for months before finally breaking it off. Then yesterday PPP finally buried Phil 6 feet under and confirmed that ALL of the memes (Phil lies about literally everything, that he's a drunk, lonely, desperate, pathetic, lazy, useless, on the spectrum) are true.

A great service done for all and possibly sealing the deal on Phil's fate. If the KC dents stop giving him money, Phil's done. If they enjoy the show enough to keep donating, this could go on indefinitely.

I think he did genuinely try to be a friend to DSP or at least try to offer that and besides the drunk stuff in the middle of the night just proved that the reason he doesn't have friends is it is all take, take, take.

He expected them to do shit on their weekends but wouldn't dare interrupt his weekends and shit like that.

And some people missed it but PPP did give him a chance to redeem himself and said "come on the stream and hash it out". DSP is the guy who tried to issue an ultimatum to someone who had been helping him for months.

I think they wanted Phil to be their lolcow, not in the sense of picking on him but in the sense of "he's one of us". "One of the boys". They wanted Phil to actually engage with this stuff and create content for the show, but he showed up with no prepwork, no energy, just expecting a cheque like his mere presence earned him royalty fees. HE'S A BUM. HE'S FAT. HE'S BROKE. HE'S BALD.

Yeah I think this is the case too. Warski is wording it like it was all a plot the entire time but the only way to get close to DSP is to play his to his faults (mainly his obsession with detractors) but he did say they tried to get DSP to make some content and do other stuff and he came up with excuses to say no to everything and whenever he did do something his only interest was in himself because that is all DSP is interested in.

If DSP had actually made an effort and hadn't lied to PPP and stuff like that I think they would've actually given him a bit of respect but they figured out that DSP is DSP and he has no interest in fixing his inner demons or doing anything differently. He literally just wants to sit on stream and have 2 or 3 mentally ill whales enable him forever - PPP even said as much that what he's doing isn't going to last forever.

I think the main thing that PPP proved is that DSP doesn't even give a fuck about Khet in the first place which is why he never stood up for her.

It was basically the Jahn Rambo and that other nigga stream happening again, tons of shit has changed in the world and with streaming and YouTube. People have come and gone but DSP is exactly the same person.

 

[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

He didn't fake cancer, he just lied to mentally disabled people about his finances so that he could keep up his addiction to WWE Champions. And then once he finally admitted to it, he tried to lie again that he sold the account.

He lied to PPP about how much he had spent and said that TJgamebox's calculations were off.

And then when PPP got him a bunch of money/attention he still fucking squandered it all on WWEC, door dash and booze and didn't do a single thing to improve himself.

DSP lies so much that he may as well have faked cancer at this point. He even lies to himself to justify all this shitty stuff.

I am 95% sure the gout and illness stuff is faked too. Do we even know his medical expenses?

I think ppp legitimately did want to help phil on some level and he did actually want to troll the detractors. I think the plan was to at least turn phil into a character they could make content with regularly, but phil is just too boring and autistic to make anything other than low effort slop so it's just never going to work.

If phil had went on kino casino the first time and made really funny jokes and told interesting stories and stuff like that, he could have had an actual resurgence. Instead he was kind of just there nodding along and goat laughing and occasionally agreeing with ppp and andy. He had no energy or anything interesting to say. You could tell warski was checked out pretty early on with the dsp stuff but ppp kept working at it until he finally snapped.

Also though like ppp said last night, it was phil who came to them first. Its not like there was some master plan being orchestrated by ppp and warksi to reel phil in. Phil really just randomly fell into their lap and they used the opportunity to get content out of him.

On the PPP site, it's highly plausible, he doesn't look like someone who wouldn't. But the rest? Probably using him as Phil bait.

 

[Not A Fed]

Ethan Ralph did a 5 minute video on twitter saying "I just want to do a wrestling show".

He talks shit on PPP and says he is "magnitudes more evil than DSP and he's a fat Canadian who can't even walk and wishes he was an American" and he called Steve Cumbian a one-eyed freak and PPP a one-legged freak. Goes into a bunch of shit about PPP and Warski, that their fans are pedophiles.

Says he wants to do a wrestling show "whether it's with DSP or someone else". He makes sure to say he's not attacking DSP and he doesn't have a problem with him and that he doesn't know much about DSP's history.

Keeps going on about him knowing tons about wrestling.

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YES PLEASE. I want to see the inevitable fallout.

 

[lupinthethird]

I think they wanted Phil to be their lolcow, not in the sense of picking on him but in the sense of "he's one of us". "One of the boys". They wanted Phil to actually engage with this stuff and create content for the show, but he showed up with no prepwork, no energy, just expecting a cheque like his mere presence earned him royalty fees. HE'S A BUM. HE'S FAT. HE'S BROKE. HE'S BALD.

You're on the right track but I believe they more so wanted their own personal whack pack member (Howard Stern thing, for those needing context) and were never friendly with him without the intention of roping him in to use him for content for their show. Their show needs a constant supply of Lolcows to A-log and in the last year or two Ethan Ralph, someone their show initially formed to A-log, has been very infrequent in happenings that they could make segments on.

 

[neger psykolog]

You're on the right track but I believe they more so wanted their own personal whack pack member (Howard Stern thing, for those needing context) and were never friendly with him without the intention of roping him in to use him for content for their show. Their show needs a constant supply of Lolcows to A-log and in the last year or two Ethan Ralph, someone their show initially formed to A-log, has been very infrequent in happenings that they could make segments on.

They obviously wanted to use him for content but PPP offering him an all expenses paid trip to the fucking Superbowl for him and Khet and also giving them a few days alone so they could have a proper holiday/honeymoon goes a bit beyond that.

Some people will probably say PPP wanted to just take advantage of him but I think PPP wanted to get him out of his shell a bit - keep in mind DSP has basically never had a meaningful break from streaming 6 days a week besides the wedding (when he had a huge amount of financial stress also).

If DSP took that holiday it probably would've done him a world of good mentally and also made him and khet both happier - I'm literally a bit MATI that DSP turned down that chance, not because I'm jealous but because I've more than several times said that the nigga needs to take a break mentally and physically from his stupid autistic streaming schedule and it might actually help him get a better, healthier perspective on things.

DSP said no btw because it would traumatize poor jasper the cat - even though PPP offered to pay for jasper to be taken care of at a pet boarding facility.

 

[PieceofShet]

#releasethe4amginDMs

 

[shekelshoah666]

Funniest part to me is that when he was going on sidescrollers he was talking about how he might end up being a co host or guest if it goes well and that would be so cool and he actually got that chance with KC and totally fucking squandered it.

If you go watch everything he did with KC he was total dead weight too scared to do anything. PPP only wants to stream a few times a week so all those other days DSP could've done his own show and brought on Steve or whoever the fuck else and just dunked on some lolcow drama bullshit and made bank easy but he is so dumb he couldn't even manage that. His dents don't pay him much and he lost most of his non KC whales so that argument is dumb too.

He would've been making as much or more as he does doing almost 50 hours of streaming a week right now in like 10-15 hours then he could've just played games he actually wants to play like Warski does on his own streams. He would've had paid vacations a few times a year where they just shoot content for like 1-2 days then go do their own shit but man he just couldn't let Jasper be left alone!

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink and DSP is the real life example of that.

 

[CannedBacon]

The fact that Phil manipulated a clearly ''slow'' woman to move in with him so people he will never meet wont call him gay on the internets, then got Khet to marry him so he could get a few grand to his parents, and she turned out to be the Mom from Carrie with an eating disorder that will cost him thousands of dollar is diabetes meds is really funny if you think about.

Everything Phil does bites him in the ass long term. It's fucking incredible. And all Phil has really gained from this whole marriage is getting to have a shit eating grin when his ''Wife'' kissed him on the cheek that one time on stream YEARS ago.

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Notice how he's looking directly at the camera in this moment. You can tell the whole motive behind this was to disprove everything detractors were making fun of him after Leanna left him.

 

[Ivan Daniloff]

Could some please clarify if we, as dentractors, are still felted?

Yes. Without question.

Maybe she's feeling the demons again. Exorcism 2.0 soon?

Khet has been the demon all along, undermining Phil for the last 8 years.

I wonder if PPP was actually genuine about reforming Phil

Imo, no. He is maintaining that now because he’s trying to keep the door open to a reconciliation. If he admitted that he only ever wished to exploit Phil, Phil is much less likely to apologize etc. Just one dentractor’s opinion, ymmv.

They obviously wanted to use him for content but PPP offering him an all expenses paid trip to the fucking Superbowl for him and Khet and also giving them a few days alone so they could have a proper holiday/honeymoon goes a bit beyond that.

Did PPP explicitly say that this trip wouldn’t be filmed? Also, without in any way implying that DSP isn’t anti-social and a hermit, I would be leery of accepting a lavish, extremely personal gift from a colleague as well. And I’m not paranoid like Phil, just proud.

 

[The GOUT-HATERS Handbook]

Wow, I missed out on a lot. Great day to be in the Snortex.

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Did Triple P (you know the drill) actually release some of the DM's Phil allegedly send? Not sounding like a Phil defender but I want hard, factual proof. Or will that be on the menu for the next coming weeks?

Also, fuck Socialblade for their greed. Now you can only check the last 14 days of views without paying anything. If you want to go to the past you need to actually pay therm money now. So this is the only thing you can see for free atm

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They've changed their shit before due to EU fuckery, I wouldn't be surprised if they did it again.

It won't happen but I would love a "Fuck Phil Festival" like they did with Ralph. That would make me tune in to KC for the first time in 3 years.

Fun fact, The "Fuck Phil Festival" was a riff on Ralph's "Fuck Trovo Festival" from when he got kicked off.
Now what I'd like to see is KC and Ralph reuniting for the Fuck Phil Festival. Imagine if DSP was the catalyst for Andy and Ralph's friendship being restored.

Ethan Ralph did a 5 minute video on twitter saying "I just want to do a wrestling show".

He talks shit on PPP and says he is "magnitudes more evil than DSP and he's a fat Canadian who can't even walk and wishes he was an American" and he called Steve Cumbian a one-eyed freak and PPP a one-legged freak. Goes into a bunch of shit about PPP and Warski, that their fans are pedophiles.

Says he wants to do a wrestling show "whether it's with DSP or someone else". He makes sure to say he's not attacking DSP and he doesn't have a problem with him and that he doesn't know much about DSP's history.

Keeps going on about him knowing tons about wrestling.

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Ralphamania sisters we are so fucking back.