Debate @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST on the slippery slope of making loli porn illegal - At the user's own request.

[UERISIMILITUDO]

So by your own admission, you think about AI-generated or japanese cartoons where little girls get raped? Wow, you're a sick fuck!

No.

I can see you're yet another angry animefaggot who wants the world to cater to your garbage cartoons and doesn't like that more people are being made aware of some unpleasant truths about the medium you base your identity on.

I need to change back to my previous avatar already.

 

[Non Incestual CK3 Player]

True freedom is freedom to do the right thing. Calling someone a nigger? Sometimes the right thing. Loli porn? Never the right thing.

 

[Cheesy Beavy]

Based!

Then I better not ever see you say "nigger" again (or any other derogatory term) because that's against the law in several countries for "hate speech"
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Other than this I'm going to stay out of the argument as others have because I'm sure I'll either word something retarded (not articulating myself well) or my words will be taken out of context but two things can be true at once.

>Lolicon is wrong and should be illegal
>People can fear an encroachment of their rights.

I haven't looked at the bill in its entirety to know how this may be used but it's not out of the governments realm of possibility to use this in some retarded way to put someone behind bars for something that's not true. It seems right up their alley. They've done it before and they'll do it again.

Several people in this thread seem to not fully grasp that both sides can be valid to an extent. That doesn't mean loli should be legal, nor does that mean that people shouldn't feel scared that the government is taking away a """"""freedom of speech""""""" (put in quotations for a reason).

The government is always looking to take away rights and lolicon is cartoon depictions of CSAM. Both things can be true at once.

 

[Tablet County]

Yeah, it's almost like things never stop at just "the minority".

I mean, it does often end there. History provides us many juicy examples of when the law gets out of hand and uses one issue as a stepping stone to crush other, more personal pet peeves. But there are just as many examples of laws doing exactly what they're supposed to and not overreaching. Of course, they're not as sensational as Robespierre guillotining everyone he doesn't like, the FBI fumbling the prohibition or retarded 80s drug PSAs.

I've watched as abortion went from "safe, legal, and rare" to became "whenever I want, for whatever reason, paid for by the taxpayer". I've watched as immigration went from "only the best and brightest" to "flooding your country with unlimited jeets". I've watched as the "it's called human decency" chant evolved into "suck the girl cock, bigot". In Canada, I watched as the government put the Kodiak Defence WK180C, a rifle designed to comply with all the current firearm legislation, on the prohibited list which turned it into a safe queen overnight. All in real time. I am old enough to remember the history I've personally lived though. I know, first hand, that people will never stop if it means they can impose their personal will onto others.

Most of these examples are of minority groups being given more rights at the expense of the majority as opposed to having whole rights taken away.
Don't get me wrong, I used to believe that the illegalization of lolicon would be used as a cudgel to beat people down for wrongthink, but as the years have gone on I feel like there's a fundamental difference between banning lolicon and banning the word nigger.

As far as I've seen, everyone in the thread arguing against this is arguing on the side of caution of not wanting to give the government even just one inch vs the security of not allowing this content to be legal in the first place.

You know what, that's fair. But I sincerely doubt the banning of loli will eventually lead to the complete dismantling of free speech. As I said above I used to think that, but having seen a few more things in my lifetime I just don't think it equates.
It is probably part of a greater push to ban pornography outright, but I don't see that being very popular outside of the reddest of states.

I mean they either offend or they don't. Some people aren't going to have the capacity to do something like that to a child to begin with, and actual pedophilia is a pretty severe, obsessive disorder that consists of more than just mere fetishism. Now I wouldn't let some lolicon babysit my kids but you can't just put someone in jail for something they haven't done.

I'd agree, which is why I doubt it'll be enforced nearly as fervently as some people suggest it will. I get the impression that lawmen are probably going to prioritize the genuine article, and the diddler comics will only serve as aggravating circumstances or something.

So by your own admission, you think about AI-generated or japanese cartoons where little girls get raped? Wow, you're a sick fuck!

I can see the rest of your sperging is somehow trying to use muh pedojews and penis mutilation (which are also bad) to defend japanese cartoons where little girls get raped instead of trying to suggest that all of it is bad and should be stopped immediately. I can see you're yet another angry animefaggot who wants the world to cater to your garbage cartoons and doesn't like that more people are being made aware of some unpleasant truths about the medium you base your identity on. Please continue to cope and seethe down below.

Stop being on my side, you're retarded.

 

[Day of the Cope]

True freedom is freedom to do the right thing. Calling someone a nigger? Sometimes the right thing. Loli porn? Never the right thing.

I would say that true freedom means you have the ability to fuck your life up. You should have the freedom to choose what food you want to eat but should SUFFAH if you eat too much goyslop. You should have the freedom to skydive but should be willing to accept the chance your parachute doesn't open. You should have the freedom to live in an unsafe part of your country but should be willing to accept when someone breaks into your home and bends your thumbs backwards.

 

[LifeAlert]

The government is always looking to take away rights and lolicon is cartoon depictions of CSAM. Both things can be true at once.

Yes I know, the government never acts in the interest of their livestock and there are countless examples like the patriot act. However, today it's pedofaggots getting their rights taken away so to see all these faggots getting up in arms now and cry "m-muh freedom of speech and liberty!111" when it didn't matter any other time is hilarious to me. The government rapes everyone, now it's their turn to bend over while we point and laugh

 

[Tablet County]

Yes I know, the government never acts in the interest of their livestock and there are countless examples like the patriot act. However, today it's pedofaggots getting their rights taken away so to see all these faggots getting up in arms now and cry "m-muh freedom of speech and liberty!111" when it didn't matter any other time is hilarious to me.

I might disagree on some fundamentals but I don't think the stripping of our freedoms mattered less to the people ITT before this.

The government rapes everyone, now it's their turn to bend over while we point and laugh

Stop it, that's bugman talk.

 

[Day of the Cope]

Most of these examples are of people being given more rights at the expense of others opposed to having their rights taken away.

At the risk of derailing the thread: if a women is given the "right" to on demand abortion, does that not take away the right of the unborn child to life?

 

[SofondaCox]

I'm far more interested in what brings pederasts here.

I think we've been portrayed as the outlaw "wild west" of the internet by the lunatic tranny media coverage. That may attract anti socials and psychopaths. The chaos, the uncertainties, the opportunities. Its a wild ride, to be sure.

They're primarily opportunistic. The environment is challenging and alluring. They come, get cozy with their buddies in private DMs, until they are invariably discovered and routed out, which will always happen everywhere because of their absolute inability to just not brag. Its probably thrilling to be here, in the midst of the "wolves" who would gleefully tear him apart if he is discovered. Exhilarating.

You WILL get caught.
You'll get caught, and it will be entirely your own fault. I'm glad you come here. Maybe it's a subliminal cry for help? You will get the help you need by coming here. Stay. Get cozy. You're waaaay smarter than us and certainly none of this applies to you, you special bright boy.

 

[Tablet County]

At the risk of derailing the thread: if a women is given the "right" to on demand abortion, does that not take away the right of the unborn child to life?

Well I did say "at the expense of others" so I feel like that went without saying. Ultimately that depends on whether or not you believe a fetus is a living individual or not. Personally I think men and women should be less promiscuous in general and then the concept of an on-demand abortion wouldn't be as much of an issue. But that's a change that should be brought about socially rather than legally.

I'm far more interested in what brings pederasts here.

I think we've been portrayed as the outlaw "wild west" of the internet by the lunatic tranny media coverage. That may attract anti socials and psychopaths. The chaos, the uncertainties, the opportunities. Its a wild ride, to be sure.

They're primarily opportunistic. The environment is challenging and alluring. They come, get cozy with their buddies in private DMs, until they are invariably discovered and routed out, which will always happen everywhere because of their absolute inability to just not brag. Its probably thrilling to be here, in the midst of the "wolves" who would gleefully tear him apart if he is discovered. Exhilarating.

You WILL get caught.
You'll get caught, and it will be entirely your own fault. I'm glad you come here. Maybe it's a subliminal cry for help? You will get the help you need by coming here. Stay. Get cozy. You're waaaay smarter than us and certainly none of this applies to you, you special bright boy.

I hate diddlers as much as the next guy (you'd think that'd go without saying) but this is really gay.

 

[Day of the Cope]

I'm far more interested in what brings pederasts here.

I think we've been portrayed as the outlaw "wild west" of the internet by the lunatic tranny media coverage. That may attract anti socials and psychopaths. The chaos, the uncertainties, the opportunities. Its a wild ride, to be sure.

They're primarily opportunistic. The environment is challenging and alluring. They come, get cozy with their buddies in private DMs, until they are invariably discovered and routed out, which will always happen everywhere because of their absolute inability to just not brag. Its probably thrilling to be here, in the midst of the "wolves" who would gleefully tear him apart if he is discovered. Exhilarating.

You WILL get caught.
You'll get caught, and it will be entirely your own fault. I'm glad you come here. Maybe it's a subliminal cry for help? You will get the help you need by coming here. Stay. Get cozy. You're waaaay smarter than us and certainly none of this applies to you, you special bright boy.

Pretty much every example I've seen of someone outing themselves as a nonce is either a troon or a WigNat.

But that's a change that should be brought about socially rather than legally.

I agree, which is why I'm against these kinda thoughtcrime laws: they are going after effects instead of causes.

 

[Tablet County]

Pretty much every example I've seen of someone outing themselves as a nonce is either a troon or a WigNat.

I agree, which is why I'm against these kinda thoughtcrime laws: they are going after effects instead of causes.

What about lolberts?

 

[Day of the Cope]

What about lolberts?

Too busy sucking Massie's cock.

 

[DoNotFeedTheSneed]

Racist. Nazi. Transphobe. Grifter. Woke. I've seen countless terms that have been rendered completely meaningless do to them being overused and thrown around willy-nilly.

there is quite a large difference between political ideologues throwing around loaded terms without evidence vs someone calling a lolicon a pedophile. the former is incredibly broad. People ranging from social democrats to monarchists have all been called nazis. The latter is incredibly specific. In this context, pedophile refers to someone masturbating to a drawing of a child getting fucked. Lolicons don't even deny what they're doing either.

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

I'm far more interested in what brings pederasts here.

While there is a surprising amount of halal threads about the stupidest users here, any mildly intelligent pedophile isn't going to touch these conversations beyond spouting "woodchipper" so that everyone knows he's totally not a pedophile.

 

[SofondaCox]

Pretty much every example I've seen of someone outing themselves as a nonce is either a troon or a WigNat.

I agree, which is why I'm against these kinda thoughtcrime laws: they are going after effects instead of causes.

All that extremist stuff is window dressing, but sure. They dabble. We're a good honeypot - kids aren't welcome here. I welcome them to come to a place they can't control. Where they can't take anything back. Lol

 

[Day of the Cope]

All that extremist stuff is window dressing, but sure. They dabble. We're a good honeypot - kids aren't welcome here.

I consider it a violation of my rights to hear an opinion from anyone under the age of 18.

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

In this context, pedophile refers to someone masturbating to a drawing of a child getting fucked.

That's a good example. According to some people here, any of these people can be labelled pedophiles:

• A man who literally fucks children.
• A man who masturbates to drawings of children.
• A man who dates a woman significantly younger than him who's still over the age of consent.
• A man who likes short women with small breasts.
• A man who masturbates to Japanese drawings of highschoolers.

This is just like how nazi can refer to the following:

• A man who is a member of the German National Socialist Workers Party.
• A man who wants his grandchildren to look like him.
• A man who doesn't want to be killed by foreigners.

Notice also how a pedophile is assumed to be male. Most people here who spout "woodchipper" would become literal rape apologists the moment it was a woman's turn to be fed into it.

 

[Endless Torment]

hus far there has been no law put in place which punishes the garden-variety hentai coomer for the actions of the minority of lolicons.

Castillo v. Texas which while unrelated shows that Texas is fine with using such things for political shows and I wouldn't be surprised if something similar occurred again. I wouldn't be shocked if some cop goes in and grabs some random manga and not porn this time and makes a show trial for the press.

 

[Day of the Cope]

Most people here who spout "woodchipper" would become literal rape apologists the moment it was a woman's turn to be fed into it.

Remember that one child who was expected to pay child support to his female rapist?
Yeah, sorry if I don't want the legal system deciding morality.