Are LGB as bad as the T?

I keep hearing this cope over and over again, mostly from lesbians.

But lesbian relationships are known for beating the absolute shit out of each other and being extremely toxic.

So while I agree gay men are more openly disgusting about their sexcapades, lesbians have their own distinct set of problems when it comes to that can't be explained away by the disgusting aids fags.
Oh, imagine that. The male and female psyche are pretty much purpose built to fit together and balance the other out, and the dynamic breaks down and becomes dysfunctional when you try to mash two male or two female jigsaw pieces together.
 

‘What is the gayest piece of science you know?’
Gay men are disgusting sexual deviants who engage in behaviours we humans have naturally evolved to find repulsive and our body naturally cannot cope with, such as eating faeces and putting their genitalia up in the place where faeces is stored.
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This should have never been normalised, yet alone be seen as a human right. There is a reason why virtually every society on earth found this behaviour degenerate and even criminal up until 15 seconds ago. Combine this with the natural heightened sexual drive of the male human and you get recipes for new superviral STD’s evolving out of nowhere via the sheer massive amount of sexual partners these faggots have + child Molestation. In fact most homosexual behavior in the past that modern woke historians like to point out such as what happened in Ancient Greece, Rome and Japan was literal pederasty, such as Emperor Hadrian‘s now romanticised relationship with 12 year old Antinous when he was 40+.

Also transgenderism evolved from faggots. Most trannys are fags who want the attention of straight men. And the pioneers of gender ideology were all gay men. Michel Foucault,John Money, Alfred Kinsey, Volkmar Sigusch,Helmut Kentler, Rüdiger Lautmann and Magnus Hirschfield to name a few. And to this day you have fags and lesbos defending and loving trannys. Look at all the major old gay rights groups like the Human Rights Campaign advocating for trannys more than anything. See our friend PupCid who those of you in the sex change surgery threat will know, for better or worse, all too well.

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Sodomites should be at best, put in a psychiatric facility, and at worst, castrated.
 
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LGB is just degeneracy, T is degeneracy and metal illness as such LGB is preferable however it doesn't change the fact that appropriate punishment for both is lynching.
That’s funny that you think mental illness is limited to trannies.
Sodomites should be at best, put in a psychiatric facility, and at worst, castrated.
Over a third of gays have over 1,000 partners. Gays think PrEP is a human right and should be subsidized by taxpayers. Same goes for when they get GRIDS or any other disease they get because they refuse to wear a condom.

Lesbians beat the shit out of each other and many prominent lesbians’ girlfriends and wives have come forward about how abusive their partners were to them. I’m always skeptical about MUH ABOOS accusations but funny how it seems to keep happening to the partners of prominent muff divers.

I’ll stop believing the LGB is a problem when the LGB stops being a problem.
 
Faggots lesbians and the other assortment of queers are going to be in hell forever separated from the light of Gods eternally glory and love. So basically their all unnatural cornholing cocksucking faggots who don't deserve pity or compassion and should be shoved so far into the closet they find nothing but emptiness.
If they are going to hell anyway then what does it matter?
 
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don't think a same sex couple should adopt kids, that surrogacy is bad, or that you don't think they should get married
Why are these horrible gay behaviors? They aren't even specific to gays. Surrogacy is the one I can see an issue with, but again, not specific to gays.
Over a third of gays have over 1,000 partners
This appears to be extrapolated from a single study with like 78 gay men from Frisco. If so, it isn't indicative of the whole population.
Lesbians beat the shit out of each other and many prominent lesbians’ girlfriends and wives have come forward about how abusive their partners were to them.
How is this a problem for you? This doesn't even seem to be a correct interpretation, either. It appears to come from polls asking lesbians about their experience with IPV throughout their lives. The perpetrators were often men from previous relationships. Women are going to be on the receiving end of an ass whooping more often than men. Plenty of women in lesbian relationships have dated men in the past. When you poll them, "Either of you ever had an ass whooping in a relationship?" the resultant data shouldn't come as a surprise. I can't find the actual study people reference with these rebuttals so I'll cross it out for now.

I have found a study that specifies, though, and it states: lesbian women were more likely than gay men to report having been in an abusive same-sex relationship (41% and 28% respectively). It's 390 LGBTQ, so who knows how many were lesbians answering or even actual women.

They just say "abuse" though, without a qualifier on what that means. I find it equally likely that women call way more things "abuse" where men don't. It doesn't differentiate between physical or mental. When the common types of abuse that men face are highlighted to them AS abuse, the IVP in straight relationships evens out quite a bit. Men are conditioned to not think of themselves as victims, so even physical abuse isn't reported or acknowledged. When you factor in shit like women faking being pregnant, threatening you with lies about abuse, stalking, false accusations of cheating, trapping via lying about being on the pill, etc., it's a LOT closer than what is commonly reported.

I also feel like the rates of incompatibility would be higher due to a much smaller pool of potential partners. Aren't lesbians known for moving in together immediately?
 
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Unironically, thanks for the answer.

There is no profound reason for it, but I cannot "prove" it without uploading my brain.
Well, you aren't aware of that reason.
I have always been attracted to men and I have never been attracted to women, not even as a child.
So, this is something I'm always struggling with:
I don't think you even mean the same as I when you say attraction, because I def. didn't have an attraction either way as a child.
I'm convinced this is either a rationalization so people can accuse all gays of being frothing perverts, or just something for stupid people that lack perspective to think because it's easier.
But doesn't it bother you how the accusation of just exercising your own free will makes you culpable for practicing something that doesn't hurt anybody?
This is why I never concretely say that bisexuals don't exist, because even though I am 90% they don't (I have never personally met a bisexual who I haven't pegged as a straight male femboy fetishist or just a woman who dosen't want to deal with men) I don't want to sound retarded on the offchance they actually do exist.
Well, not expressing something you are 90% sure on, just because it makes you look retarded, is cognitive dissonance.
And your theory of self in contrast to how you see others already has holes in it without going all "you lack theory of mind" on me:
By calling femboy enthusiasts "straight" you already did kinda show your cards in a way which I anticipated.

The ultimate trump card are shit posts like these:
Anytime you say something that's wrongthink - gay; anytime you say, act, or like something that's perceived as being 0.01% traditionally feminine - GAY! It's the inverse of Mutt's Law where instead of an Amerimutt obsessing over male African American genitalia, it's a moid obsessing over the thought of another man being into cock (Fag's Law).
I defer to this and am sorry of having under-delivered on the promised effort post, but I have tangled myself up with reading into man portable 20 mm auto cannons with assisted targeting optics as of late... it's a long story... and I'm more into effort-posting about that... maybe...
 
T is demonstrably worse than the LGB when it comes to anything public facing. I haven't noticed anything much worse than anything else when it comes to the, "normal," ones I know in my day to day life (IE: mostly quiet about their personal life, not defined by their sexuality/identity, just happen to be LGBT).

I tend to agree with the people standing in opposition of transing kids and public degeneracy, which is my main issue with all of LGBT-- normal people don't go around flaunting their fetishes. They're actually actively discouraged from doing so by other people. I hate that every single member of LGBT is becoming defined by the actions of the loud ones but that's just how the world is.
 
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‘What is the gayest piece of science you know?’
Gay men are disgusting sexual deviants who engage in behaviours we humans have naturally evolved to find repulsive and our body naturally cannot cope with, such as eating faeces and putting their genitalia up in the place where faeces is stored.
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This should have never been normalised, yet alone be seen as a human right. There is a reason why virtually every society on earth found this behaviour degenerate and even criminal up until 15 seconds ago. Combine this with the natural heightened sexual drive of the male human and you get recipes for new superviral STD’s evolving out of nowhere via the sheer massive amount of sexual partners these faggots have + child Molestation. In fact most homosexual behavior in the past that modern woke historians like to point out such as what happened in Ancient Greece, Rome and Japan was literal pederasty, such as Emperor Hadrian‘s now romanticised relationship with 12 year old Antinous when he was 40+.

Also transgenderism evolved from faggots. Most trannys are fags who want the attention of straight men. And the pioneers of gender ideology were all gay men. Michel Foucault,John Money, Alfred Kinsey, Volkmar Sigusch,Helmut Kentler, Rüdiger Lautmann and Magnus Hirschfield to name a few. And to this day you have fags and lesbos defending and loving trannys. Look at all the major old gay rights groups like the Human Rights Campaign advocating for trannys more than anything. See our friend PupCid who those of you in the sex change surgery threat will know, for better or worse, all too well.

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Sodomites should be at best, put in a psychiatric facility, and at worst, castrated.
So, you don't like anal sex and find it disgusting, I do agree with that, but what has that to with gays specifically? Just outlaw that then.
But I already know why you didn't say that...
 
Gay men are disgusting sexual deviants who engage in behaviours we humans have naturally evolved to find repulsive and our body naturally cannot cope with, such as eating faeces and putting their genitalia up in the place where faeces is stored.
That list was really useful to see because I've heard women being told that it's normal to use the 'other hole' in straight sex nowadays (I've heard this brought up casually in places that aren't about sex at all). Such a dangerous thing shouldn't be normalized.
 
So, you don't like anal sex and find it disgusting, I do agree with that, but what has that to with gays specifically?
What is this question lol.

What does anal sex have to do with gays? Are you retarded? Ppl call them fudge packers for a reason.

Since it's quite obvious, are you gay or a lesbian? I'm leaning towards lesbo.
 
If they are going to hell anyway then what does it matter?
You shouldn't let them feel accepted because then they'll mislead others into the path of sin as acceptable lifestyle decision its like saying why don't we just let trannies have free reign on cutting off boys dicks or have girls chop their tits off they'll be in hell anyway so whats the harm faggots gotta go.
 
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I mean I agree kinda, definitely not in the way most people in this thread mean it though. Decrying the LGB won't do anything to actually fix the issues that plague the gay community, it'll just exacerbate the neurosis that keeps a lot of gays in a chokehold. A lot of gay people haven't been shown healthy models of love and intimacy which is sad, though I think it is the responsibility of the people within the community to be role models for young homosexuals but not enough people are willing to step up. In my opinion, there's definitely a purposeful apathy within the community that's been forged for a greater agenda. I think a lot of the blame of 'homosexual degeneracy' should be directed towards the hedonistic ideal that's been planted into the community. A lot the degeneracy is rooted in a need for escapism, I definitely do think homosexual attraction comes with the emotional baggage of shame and insecurity for a lot of people. I tend to see the two groups as separate but I see parallels in this strange push for dissatisfaction that's been permeating inside the two groups. Will methsex orgies fulfil you in life? Not really. A lot of people are afraid of search outward though, I know a lot of people especially in the chemsex community stay because it's all they've known. I feel as if the LGB is a lot more vague about it though, for the T the opposite sex is the product. You're meant to be frustrated and dissatisfied on purpose, because you'll never be the opposite and it's nigh impossible to realistically emulate all facets of the opposite sex. It makes people weak-willed and desperate. I kind of have an inkling the same thing has been attempted to the LGB, though in a more abstract way, probably on purpose too. I think the dissonance that's been growing between the LGB and T is also intentional. Call me a conspiracy theorist but that's my opinion
 
I mean I agree kinda, definitely not in the way most people in this thread mean it though. Decrying the LGB won't do anything to actually fix the issues that plague the gay community, it'll just exacerbate the neurosis that keeps a lot of gays in a chokehold. A lot of gay people haven't been shown healthy models of love and intimacy which is sad, though I think it is the responsibility of the people within the community to be role models for young homosexuals but not enough people are willing to step up. In my opinion, there's definitely a purposeful apathy within the community that's been forged for a greater agenda. I think a lot of the blame of 'homosexual degeneracy' should be directed towards the hedonistic ideal that's been planted into the community. A lot the degeneracy is rooted in a need for escapism, I definitely do think homosexual attraction comes with the emotional baggage of shame and insecurity for a lot of people. I tend to see the two groups as separate but I see parallels in this strange push for dissatisfaction that's been permeating inside the two groups. Will methsex orgies fulfil you in life? Not really. A lot of people are afraid of search outward though, I know a lot of people especially in the chemsex community stay because it's all they've known. I feel as if the LGB is a lot more vague about it though, for the T the opposite sex is the product. You're meant to be frustrated and dissatisfied on purpose, because you'll never be the opposite and it's nigh impossible to realistically emulate all facets of the opposite sex. It makes people weak-willed and desperate. I kind of have an inkling the same thing has been attempted to the LGB, though in a more abstract way, probably on purpose too. I think the dissonance that's been growing between the LGB and T is also intentional. Call me a conspiracy theorist but that's my opinion
That's the kind of post I expected from this thread. I think the problem with the G, less the L could be that they can't really leave once they committed to it. They will always be the icky gay guy and if they decide to go after women, they will get side eyed by their own for being some kind of traitor and us straight guys, who never dabbled in it, will assume that it's a farce, dragging down some poor woman for the ruse, because they are just so adamant about the whole "I just can't into women" angle.
I thought about this, because I really hate this rent-a-womb shit, I mean, how hard can it be to have some love triangle, if you are THAT desperate? And with age and less need to larp, I do find myself wondering, as stated above, if there really is such a thing as a "real" gay guy, kinda like with trannies, because, speaking for myself, I think I could've gone with a guy, if there was no stigma and no butt-stuff involved - Just nothing long term and less so now than back when I was younger. I think the root of it is adopting a whole identity around how you dress or what sex acts you engage with, very restrictive.
 
if there really is such a thing as a "real" gay guy
I find this question very interesting because it lays homosexuality upon a fundamentalist principle. Assuming straight is the opposite of gay. Us vs them. Is anyone really them? To answer that we need to define what is 'them'. Not misconstruing your question, but I know some people say homosexual sex is morally reprehensible because it's not "natural" or "normal". There are a lot of things that aren't natural yet people enjoy it, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that. It's not like humans were primed to eat fast-food, and tons of people enjoy it all over the world; because our brain structure makes it so fatty and sugary foods are more pleasurable because food like that scarce in the wild and would be highly regarded. People have meticulously studied how to get people physically and emotionally attached to their product. Sex gives us pleasure. If I contextualise my prior point with my post above, I do not think it would be so surprising to find out there is people manipulating people's sexuality and making them attached to the product of the 'LGB'. Product doesn't even have to refer to a purchase in this context, it can also be referring to an expenditure beyond monetary value. Spending your time, energy and emotions into this group. I guess a concrete example to exemplify what I mean is that I used to be a TikTok user back in 2020. I know there used to be a 'side' of TikTok that was named 'gay TikTok' which people could identify themselves into, I see social media specifically using a tactic of diverting gay from it's etymology of simply referring to homosexuality to an aesthetic. There's tons of people saying "I'm so gay!" and transplanting the values and ideals of that community into their identity. People who stand on their individuality don't have the need to find facets of themselves reflected in places it doesn't belong. I do think this sentiment is drowned out by the cacophony of people intertwining this ideology with their identity though. It's ricocheted from inside of these communities because nobody is willing to take a stand, as that would mean jeopardising the identities they had built for themselves. There's been a deliberate attempt to keep the LGB and also the T from realising this. So much so I think it would take a mass awakening for any actual progress to be made, the wheels have deliberately been halted; I think on all sides of the political and ideological spectrum, they just go about it in different ways. Sorry if that came across as a rant I just wanted to go into depth on what the role of homosexuality plays in society and why I think certain people benefit from it and others do not. To clarify my position, I definitely think homosexuality is being manufactured. Don't get me wrong, homosexuality has existed for a long time and will continue to exist. Food has also existed for a long time, but it's been studied and marketed. I think sexuality is the same, just on a more abstract and insidious level. I think attraction can be attraction though, regardless of who it is; though I know that's a controversial point especially when society is shoving sexuality labels down our throats. I think a lot of this again is an attempt to manufacture a sense of absence of identity and market a sense of self, in a very inconspicuous way. I don't think homosexuality is any worse than heterosexuality though, I just think homosexuality is being used as a vessel to promote an agenda that is seen as 'immoral', which is where I think partly the new founded conservatism in the 2020s has risen from. It's a lot easier to attack homosexuality instead of what's driving it because division is a good tactic to make people isolated and afraid. I'm actually very neutral on the situation honestly; just disillusioned.
 
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Well, you aren't aware of that reason.
So, this is something I'm always struggling with:
I don't think you even mean the same as I when you say attraction, because I def. didn't have an attraction either way as a child.
When you say I'm not "aware of the reason" are you coyly implying something happened in my youth that somehow flipped my brain? Because born weird simply makes more sense. Any kind of... Event? That makes you gay would be big enough for me to remember. Also yeah I wasn't some kind of gooner at 8 I just have silly memories of concentrating on images of naked women in an attempt to feel something but failing, chalked it up to not having hit puberty yet but that changed nothing.
Well, not expressing something you are 90% sure on, just because it makes you look retarded, is cognitive dissonance.
And your theory of self in contrast to how you see others already has holes in it without going all "you lack theory of mind" on me:
By calling femboy enthusiasts "straight" you already did kinda show your cards in a way which I anticipated.
There is truth to this but what I meant was more I just avoid regarding it as concrete falsity. If I know someone who I've already decided is not a "real bisexual" then I won't treat it with respect the same way I would a True & Honest Fag (me). Yes I unironically consider some femboy people straight, there's a difference between gay men who just like effeminate men and straight gooners whose brains have been so fried by porn they can now jack off to the completely opposite sex. Thats why I called them "femboy fetishists" not "femboy enthusiasts" or whatever. Tranny fetishists are in essence the exact same thing. It's easy for you to say, "gay is just when men fuck men" but I don't want to associated with these people, they are not like me.

thanks for the quote cus was half convinced you were going to say "yeah didnt read your post lol but i might later" and then never do it
 
It's easy for you to say, "gay is just when men fuck men" but I don't want to associated with these people, they are not like me.
I mean it is true in the sense chasers are kind of weird in their own way but this is also a cope. You don't want to be associated with them, I get it. But it's pure copium. If they're chasing dick, that's faggotry. And specifically it's usually bisexuals.

Orientation and certain fetishes and fixations aren't all in the same box. By that I mean you're just experiencing being weirded out by someone have a fetish you find off putting/different than yours but instead of leaving it at that you're getting sensitive about the fact they share your orientation. You need to stop this. It's one of the reasons people have poor opinions of LGB because instead of saying "yeah, no fuck this guy" you just gunt guard and that rot keeps setting in.
 
There's tons of people saying "I'm so gay!" and transplanting the values and ideals of that community into their identity.
That's older than you might think... It was just co-notated negatively when people did exactly that same thing back in my day.
People were building up their straight identity by avoiding anything that was deemed "soo gaaay".
People who stand on their individuality don't have the need to find facets of themselves reflected in places it doesn't belong. I do think this sentiment is drowned out by the cacophony of people intertwining this ideology with their identity though.
100%
Also yeah I wasn't some kind of gooner at 8 I just have silly memories of concentrating on images of naked women in an attempt to feel something but failing, chalked it up to not having hit puberty yet but that changed nothing.
Well, not to get total psychoanalyst on yo ass here, but that's absolutely changes a lot.
I also find it weird how you assume that your sexuality is "from birth", while some guy discovering femboys is almost automatically a pornbrained coomer to you.
You talk about "true and honest" femboy enjoyers and "fake and NOT gay" ones, as if there is any inherent moral value difference in gooning until you like dick and not knowing why you like dick.
See the issue there? To me those are all gay. Maybe the gooner just gooned himself into a higher self-awareness of his already in-born femboy-enjoyer-dom?
 
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I find this question very interesting because it lays homosexuality upon a fundamentalist principle. Assuming straight is the opposite of gay. Us vs them. Is anyone really them? To answer that we need to define what is 'them'. Not misconstruing your question, but I know some people say homosexual sex is morally reprehensible because it's not "natural" or "normal". There are a lot of things that aren't natural yet people enjoy it, and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that. It's not like humans were primed to eat fast-food, and tons of people enjoy it all over the world; because our brain structure makes it so fatty and sugary foods are more pleasurable because food like that scarce in the wild and would be highly regarded. People have meticulously studied how to get people physically and emotionally attached to their product.

Sex gives us pleasure. If I contextualise my prior post with my post above, I do not think it would be so surprising to find out there is people manipulating people's sexuality and making them attached to the product of the 'LGB'. Product doesn't even have to refer to a purchase in this context, it can also be referring to an expenditure beyond monetary value. Spending your time, energy and emotions into this group.

I guess a concrete example to exemplify what I mean is that I used to be a TikTok user back in 2020. I know there used to be a 'side' of TikTok that was named 'gay TikTok' which people could identify themselves into, I see social media specifically using a tactic of diverting gay from it's etymology of simply referring to homosexuality to an aesthetic. There's tons of people saying "I'm so gay!" and transplanting the values and ideals of that community into their identity. People who stand on their individuality don't have the need to find facets of themselves reflected in places it doesn't belong.

I do think this sentiment is drowned out by the cacophony of people intertwining this ideology with their identity though. It's ricocheted from inside of these communities because nobody is willing to take a stand, as that would mean jeopardising the identities they had built for themselves. There's been a deliberate attempt to keep the LGB and also the T from realising this. So much so I think it would take a mass awakening for any actual progress to be made, the wheels have deliberately been halted; I think on all sides of the political and ideological spectrum, they just go about it in different ways.

Sorry if that came across as a rant I just wanted to go into depth on why the role homosexuality plays in society and why I think certain people benefit from it and others do not. To clarify my position, I definitely think homosexuality is being manufactured. Don't get me wrong, homosexuality has existed for a long time and will continue to exist. Food has also existed for a long time, but it's been studied and marketed. I think sexuality is the same, just on a more abstract and insidious level. I think attraction can be attraction though, regardless of who it is; though I know that's a controversial point especially when society is shoving sexuality labels down our throats. I think a lot of this again is an attempt to manufacture a sense of absence of identity and market a sense of self, in a very inconspicuous way.

I don't think homosexuality is any worse than heterosexuality though, I just think homosexuality is being used as a vessel to promote an agenda that is seen as 'immoral', which is where I think partly the new founded conservatism in the 2020s has risen from. It's a lot easier to attack homosexuality instead of what's driving it because division is a good tactic to make people isolated and afraid. I'm actually very neutral on the situation honestly; just disillusioned.
Anyways, I guess homosexuality isn't any worse than heterosexuality in theory if you remove the issue of reproduction and genital incompatibility, which is fine because I don't think in genetically similar human populations that everyone's role has to be to reproduce.
In practice though that isn't the case. You're saying that it's only bad because it's a vessel for an agenda, but whatever agenda it's pushing the gays sure seem happy living it out.

As an example, I happened across this a while back and decided to put it on because I was doing something else and wanted to hear what the official line is as to how AIDS came about. Of course because it's modern media it had to have fluff about gay culture in the beginning:

By ~1/3 of the way through it was pissing me off and grossing me out enough I had to turn it off. They have the gall to shamelessly tell us about how as a homo you'll just catch another man's eye while walking down a hallway then wordlessly go off together to screw, and how anal sex is an acquired taste and there's a "culture" about learning how to bottom, then in the next tell us about how modern society has learned to be more "compassionate", as if people should understand and accept the disgusting shit they're expressing.

In theory it isn't different than heterosexuality. In practice a lot of gays act like animals, actually worse than animals since I think even most animals are more conservative about who they fuck. They behave like promiscuous, hedonistic, repulsive degenerates.
To some extent that probably is because of the insular subculture that exists which encourages that, but the reality is that gayness is frequently a result of having something amiss upstairs that extends to more than just their sexual preference.

Yes, there is a demographic of ones who want more traditional relationships except with someone of the same sex, so I don't want to throw them all into the same bin with the subhumans, but that proportion is way smaller than in heterosexuals. I'm not willing to accept that gay isn't any worse than straight, it's often a sign something else is wrong.
 
It's easy for you to say, "gay is just when men fuck men" but I don't want to associated with these people, they are not like me.
Tho, to not be misunderstood in my last statement on that, I do fully believe you are different from those tranny/femboy/whatever enjoyers, because you are an individual which just happens to like men more than women - in most or almost all cases. But it is very weird that you need to have a "group" of "real" gay guys, which exclude everything you don't approve of or like, when to most people gay really just means "men fucking men" after all. It does very much seem to be a group identity which sets very specific requirements in your mind.
By ~1/3 of the way through it was pissing me off and grossing me out enough I had to turn it off. They have the gall to shamelessly tell us about how as a homo you'll just catch another man's eye while walking down a hallway then wordlessly go off together to screw, and how anal sex is an acquired taste and there's a "culture" about learning how to bottom, then in the next tell us about how modern society has learned to be more "compassionate", as if people should understand and accept the disgusting shit they're expressing.
Yeah, that's putting it very explicitly. Lots of blatantly learned behavior, most specifically the "act" itself there.
Like I said about myself, I could vaguely see liking another guy very much in a sexually charged way, but not wanting to do any of the above - which then basically leads to saying: "Meh, not worth the hassle, people would assume the worst anyway." But that last part might also entrap people with a more defiant type of personality: "Oh, they assume the worst anyway, might as well do it in the butt and in bath room stalls."
In theory it isn't different than heterosexuality. In practice a lot of gays act like animals, actually worse than animals since I think even most animals are more conservative about who they fuck. They behave like promiscuous, hedonistic, repulsive degenerates.
Seems quite opposite to what you laid out above, it seems highly artificial, animals don't perform complex butt-rituals in bathroom stalls.
 
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