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I don't think any president actually write the pardons themselves. They just tell their legal staff to write X a pardon for crimes Y and Z, then they sign it themselves. If Trump wrote the pardons himself they would be worded VERY differently.
Just to add on to this, the DOJ has an "Office of the Pardon Attorney" They probably are the ones that write the pardons and get all the i's dotted and the t's crossed in legalese.
https://www.justice.gov/pardon
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Hilarity aside, I am pretty sure what Trump wants to do is illegal and if he makes an attempt he will be immediately stopped.
If Biden didn't personally sign those documents then that means they're forged, which is fraud. The pivotal detail here is being able to prove a third party did it.
 
Those pardons that Biden gave are absolute bullshit. Pardons should only be for a specific crime at a specific time. The president shouldn’t have the authority to give out carte blanche licenses to kill which is how it is now.
Alternatively, licenses to kill would be very useful in cleaning out Soros-backed officials.
 
I just want the truth. I want everyone to know what was done to them, I want all the dark deeds out in the light. For everything; Epstein, Covid, all the nasty grubby deals at home and abroad that have caused so much pain and damage. All of it dragged out into the light. Here in the UK too. If people understand what has been done to them, deliberately, for profit, over the last fifty years they would clean house
And Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
What more do you need to know? Devil-worshipping child-chopping jew bankers rule the world from the Netherlands, actually have laws in the books that they are inviolable and thus cannot ever be prosecuted, and they manipulate the interest rates to cause misery all over the world for their own amusement. Below them you have the billionaires who are allowed to think they run things, they do the obvious gay-ass bread and circus shit that everyone is starting to get sick of, Covid was Anthony Fauci (the guy who not-at-all-suspiciously played the “savior” role from the outset was actually responsible?? Shocking!)

It is all out in the open now, it could never be more blatantly out in the open, that’s why everyone’s just silently watching to see what our epic retard leader can get done in his chud jihad.
 
If Biden didn't personally sign those documents then that means they're forged, which is fraud. The pivotal detail here is being able to prove a third party did it.
Proving a third party did it would invalidate them.
Proving which third party would be an interesting bonus. Getting Blinken wouldn't bring back all those dead Ukranians, but it'd be something.
 
Proving a third party did it would invalidate them.
Proving which third party would be an interesting bonus. Getting Blinken wouldn't bring back all those dead Ukranians, but it'd be something.
I wonder if anyone in the Biden administration or who was a part of the administration would talk. There are a number of them that didn't get a pardon, Merrick Garland didn't get one and he and Biden supposedly got heated with one another about Garland not doing enough to take out Trump.
 
On paper, the idea of reducing bloat from the federal government is something everyone could agree on, left or right. The problem is that DOGE is doing it in the most retarded way imaginable, focusing on blindly cutting headcounts rather than actually delving deep into the actual mechanisms behind certain government organizations and optimizing them from there.
This is a key issue. There is no "good way" to trim the copious fat in government. If you try to do it "properly" then it requires standing up an entity that almost certainly will add to the bloat and it will take years while more bureaucratic measures are established to prevent the fat being trimmed in the first place. Then the second you start cutting into it there's a massive media apparatus ready to say how it was a mistake and amplify the voices of whoever will complain about being let go.

Even now we're seeing how judges are being used to proclaim that it's actually illegal to trim that fat and demanding those affected be given backpay. If you can't do it "properly" then you do it improperly and get it done. Perfect is the enemy of good.
 
It is all out in the open now, it
I don’t think it is. This sort of corner of the internet has a fair grasp on what’s going on, but unless it’s acknowledged by ‘trusted sources’ then the public don’t believe it.
I would like to have the people involved confess their actions in public, in a way that cannot be denied. There’s too much denial, too much obfuscation about everything.
I think the public kind of half believes that everything’s run by demons but they don’t really, or they don’t think about it so much. I want it out in the open, discussed openly.
Things like the Rwandan who stabbed and almost beheaded three little girls in the uk. Everyone knows it’s dodgy, but very few know that the dad seems to have been a RPF fighter, and nobody knows why he was brought here to the UK. If I could wave a magic wand, I would make this stuff known, and I would show the public what has been done to them. The rest would follow.
I want this for everything. Every email from water companies saying ‘yeah just shove that sewage/effluent into that river fuck it’ every pharma memo that goes ‘bury that data, get rid of that lab monkey who exposed it.’ Every dodgy deal, all of it.
We are drowning in lies, and corruption and pollution.
 
The only way to ensure pardons are remotely legitimate, at a minimum, is for them to be hand signed. If they’re signed by autopen why should they be taken seriously? This is very simple and obvious.

It’s like that dumb bitch in that creep styxenhammer’s thread who wants the police to take her seriously but can’t be bothered to go file a report. Except pardons are already written by attorneys and hand delivered to the President to merely sign with his signature, and he didn’t.

So fuck off with your “autopen counts as a signature!!!!” arguments.
 
That's not how pardons work
On paper, the idea of reducing bloat from the federal government is something everyone could agree on, left or right. The problem is that DOGE is doing it in the most retarded way imaginable, focusing on blindly cutting headcounts rather than actually delving deep into the actual mechanisms behind certain government organizations and optimizing them from there.

For DOGE to actually be effective, their actions would actually require time and thought to be put into their cuts, but ultimately what they've amounted to is a spectacle to make people think that Trump has actually done anything of benefit. He's not mass firing any of the spooky evil glow-in-the-dark CIA/FBI agents that people imagine do all of the government's work, he's firing the fucking 40something year old nature enthusiast park rangers keeping families from getting stranded in the wilderness in the hopes of privatizing as much of the American experience as possible.
Trump firing a bunch of inspectors general (literally the people who have been doing what doge claims to be doing for the past 50 years) is disturbing. The IGs are meant to be completely apolitical and usually serve both repub and dem presidents, plus they generally know what the fuck goes on in their respective departments vs Elon who's just a complete retard looking in with zero knowledge of how things work.
 
This is a key issue. There is no "good way" to trim the copious fat in government. If you try to do it "properly" then it requires standing up an entity that almost certainly will add to the bloat and it will take years while more bureaucratic measures are established to prevent the fat being trimmed in the first place. Then the second you start cutting into it there's a massive media apparatus ready to say how it was a mistake and amplify the voices of whoever will complain about being let go.

Even now we're seeing how judges are being used to proclaim that it's actually illegal to trim that fat and demanding those affected be given backpay. If you can't do it "properly" then you do it improperly and get it done. Perfect is the enemy of good.
it's not that the judges are arbitrarily deciding that the government can't reduce wasteful spending. it's that the method Trump is going about it is illegal. Yes cutting government spending the legal way is hard and you have to make compromises when you do it. If the president can just decide what to spend money on, why would we even bother having congress vote on budget bills?
 
Trump firing a bunch of inspector generals (literally the people who have been doing what doge claims to be doing for the past 50 years) is disturbing. The IGs are meant to be completely apolitical and usually serve both repub and dem presidents, plus they generally know what the fuck goes on in their respective departments vs Elon who's just a complete retard.

Oh? Then what have the IGs been doing this whole time? And God knows the Democrats have kept a single corner of the bureaucracy “apolitical.”

Give me a break.
 
That's not how pardons work

Trump firing a bunch of inspectors general (literally the people who have been doing what doge claims to be doing for the past 50 years) is disturbing. The IGs are meant to be completely apolitical and usually serve both repub and dem presidents, plus they generally know what the fuck goes on in their respective departments vs Elon who's just a complete retard looking in with zero knowledge of how things work.

If that's what they've been doing for the past 50 years then they've been failing miserably. The fedgov is drowning in bloat and waste and I know because I used to work for it.
 
Zero chance this actually holds up. The president has the power to issue unconditional pardons. Using an electric pen instead of his hand to make the signature makes no difference. Sorry to anybody who wants to see fauci in prison, but remember that whatever power you give to your side, it will be used by the other side when the pendulum swings in that direction
When I saw this, I thought, “doesn’t this fuck the Jan. 6ers and Ross Ulbricht?” Is this the final form of “no u” tennis-style politics?
 
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