US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Trump overruled Biden's pardons.

Here's the interesting bit I think everyone else is overlooking: the legacy media has spent the last month or so admitting, "Yeah, Biden wasn't all there for his presidency." If they knee-jerk react to this, they look like hypocrites, and Trump will hammer them on that point, causing them to bleed money, viewers, and influence. If they don't, some of their political star players might land in front of a judge. They've shot themselves in the foot; Trump is just letting them know it.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

Hahahah
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Alex Jones driving the worst possible vehicle for someone who is concerned about privacy, right to property, right to repair, was not on my bingo card. I'm going on the record here to say fuck tesla motors, despite any good that elon may or may not be doing, see the tesla hate thread for the reasons why.

Federal Judge using his funny robes orders the entire US government to cease immediately it's persecution of the Venezuelan prison gang Tren De Aragua. The judge further commanded the US Air Force to redirect military flights currently in progress and return the Venezuelan gangers who are neither citizens or lawful residents to the United States.

What authority this judge has to issue such sweeping orders is unclear, but apparently it's based upon their personal interpretation of the Alien Enemies act of 1798, and how the chief executive is not allowed to use it without the permission of funny robe man.

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/15/nx-s1-5246028/trump-alien-enemies-act-tren-de-aragua-deportation

I'm curious to see what the end game is for this "rando federal judge puts a stop to X" where X = a policy or action that a majority of voters likely would agree with. I'm inclined to think it's going to mean that nothing gets done and that we basically sit at status quo aside from a few things for the next 4 years. It's the "deep state" hail mary. Unfortunately this means that cutting government spending or ending uncontrolled migration for example will likely be nearly impossible, because as we all know congress will never do anything about it. They are rotten to the core and basically refuse to do anything but make the government larger and more wasteful.

The IGs are meant to be completely apolitical and usually serve both repub and dem presidents, plus they generally know what the fuck goes on in their respective departments

 

[spiritofamermaid]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rahm-emanuel-flirts-2028-presidential-bid-progressives-promptly-erupt

I added the ((())). But I think we're at peak Obama hate. No one wants anyone associated with him or his admin in charge. Also, its too soon to be talking about 2028 when we haven't even gotten to the midterms.

Unironically good, he's extremely competent and would be difficult to beat. At least until people learned about the Obama connection.

 

[AmbassadorAutismo]

Could this also lead to the commutations of those on federal death row getting revoked or is that too much to hope for?

 

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Could this also lead to the commutations of those on federal death row getting revoked or is that too much to hope for?

Didn't "he" also commute a bunch of drug sentences too?

And "him" constantly trying to forgive student debt makes more sense when you realize his staffers are probably up to their fucking eyeballs in student loans.

 

[Nuns with guns]

Disagreeing with you doesn’t mean I’m a leftist cuck or whatever. In a fair world, I’d love to see those people Biden pardoned trialed and prosecuted. It would be justice. However, the power of the pardon is literally woven in the Constitution.

Those who think the autopen is a smoking gun are retarded. As others have mentioned, SCOTUS is first willing to accept that a random aide can sign the pardon as long as they’re part of the administration than to void many pardons on what is already shaky grounds.

Accepting a preemptive pardon was also already tested with Nixon.

As much as it’s unfair, I really don’t think there’s anything we can do about these pardons other than seethe. Though that doesn’t mean we should just cross our arms and give up. We can strengthen our institutions, enact voter ID, go after Big Pharma, and put other measures to prevent fucks like Fauci ever run a social experiment like this again.

But that requires going beyond performative actions, and I don’t blame Trump for not being able to pull it off. This shit’s so corrupt that we have basically given up when it comes to thinking Zionists and big corporate interests can be expunged. Though I don’t want to doom and I truly hope everything gets better one day. I just don’t think going after the pardons is the correct battle as much as it pains me.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

the biden boys may be pardoned but that doesn't mean the DOJ cant investigate and publish a report on the crimes they're pardoned for.

That will also create a roadmap for states to pursue state crimes that were also committed. Pardons don't apply to state prosecution.

 

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That will also create a roadmap for states to pursue state crimes that were also committed. Pardons don't apply to state prosecution.

Until a Judge files a TRO declaring the state (which isn't even the state the Judge is in) isn't allowed to prosecute because "they were pardoned and the spirit of the pardon means that they can't be prosecuted, especially not in a political prosecution."

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Know what?
Even if it's illegal, I'm good with it this one time.
If we can see Fauci put in the Oubliette I really don't care how we did it, it’s a win.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

You have to love how he keeps shitting on a senile old man who is no longer a threat to him. It's starting to border on elder abuse.

(literally the people who have been doing what doge claims to be doing for the past 50 years)

lol they were doing a great fucking job of it

Is this some auto-generated account or something? I don't think anybody was arguing this.
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What are you up to in there, buddy?

This is like the third no-pfp low-post dud account that just randomly started posting in the last couple of pages. And they're all speaking with the same uncharacteristic styles like all ending statements with "!" like you'd see some facebook grandma do. Did a bunch of botted Manchurian Candidate accounts just spring to life?

we need that autofire glowing tag for accounts that suddenly spring back to life

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Yes. Are you retarded? If he's not writing it himself it's called forgery and it is very illegal to do that.

Not really. It's very well established, likely since the English common law pre-Revolution, that a legal instrument can be executed by directing someone to sign something. It's not "forgery" or illegal to do that. It happens literally every day in other areas of the law, like in wills and trusts, or in contracts.

 

[Glass House]

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If only Abe was here to see all of this...

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Not really. It's very well established, likely since the English common law pre-Revolution, that a legal instrument can be executed by directing someone to sign something. It's not "forgery" or illegal to do that. It happens literally every day in other areas of the law, like in wills and trusts, or in contracts.

to me, if this is going to hold any water at all, the only avenue is that biden must not have known about the pardons for them to be able to attack them. it really does seem like an insane, foolish, purposeless gambit if they don't have prior knowledge already that biden's pardons weren't signed or known about by him.

 

[Belvedere]

There is an argument to be made that the thick stack of pardons that were issued during the last stretch of the Biden administration are null and void if all were machine signed without Biden's knowledge, let alone his presence of body and mind. Biden is a dementia ridden meat puppet, whoever was making executive decisions, it wasn't him. The guy was barely coherent by the end of his term to the point even the MSM had to admit it. Any documents signed with an autopen under those circumstances are no better than documents with forged signatures.

Anthony Fauci deserves to rot behind bars, but even if that doesn't happen at the very least I would like to see his image and legacy completely destroyed and for him to be remembered not as a noble figure but as the lying scum he is. He was the key player in the development of the gain of function research that led to the COVID outbreak and also was responsible for the policies that informed the global lockdown mandates that ruined the lives of countless millions around the world. In my eyes he is no different to someone that has committed crimes against humanity.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Not really. It's very well established, likely since the English common law pre-Revolution, that a legal instrument can be executed by directing someone to sign something. It's not "forgery" or illegal to do that. It happens literally every day in other areas of the law, like in wills and trusts, or in contracts.

This is all fucking retarded and a waste of time and taxpayer money. Autopen has been used by Presidents since at least Thomas Jefferson, who was a big fan.

 

[GeorgeFloydFentanylStash]

Oh my. Lets fucking go!!!!

 

[BikeLock]

Trump overruled Biden's pardons.
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https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114175908922736427

https://megalodon.jp/2025-0317-1418-47/https://truthsocial.com:443/@realDonaldTrump/114175908922736427

As cool as I think the orange man is, I don't think he can do this...

 

[Allied-Mastercomputer]

About 4 Turkeys are on suicide watch right now, hoping their cushy lifestyle won’t disappear at the stroke of a pen.

 

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There is an argument to be made that the thick stack of pardons that were issued during the last stretch of the Biden administration are null and void if all were machine signed without Biden's knowledge, let alone his presence of body and mind. Biden is a dementia ridden meat puppet, whoever was making executive decisions, it wasn't him. The guy was barely coherent by the end of his term to the point even the MSM had to admit it. Any documents signed with an autopen under those circumstances are no better than documents with forged signatures.

Anthony Fauci deserves to rot behind bars, but even if that doesn't happen at the very least I would like to see his image and legacy completely destroyed and for him to be remembered not as a noble figure but as the lying scum he is. He was the key player in the development of the gain of function research that led to the COVID outbreak and also was responsible for the policies that informed the global lockdown mandates that ruined the lives of countless millions around the world. In my eyes he is no different to someone that has committed crimes against humanity.

He also intentionally extended the AIDS pandemic for financial gain
Knowingly Tortured dogs
Sold bioweapons research to China on behalf of Obama
And was telling people internally that no, the masks don't and won't work while specifically saying the exact opposite of whatever Trump said to do, for months, just to make him look bad.

 

[not william stenchever]

at the very least I would like to see his image and legacy completely destroyed and for him to be remembered not as a noble figure but as the lying scum

My minimum is Fauci sentenced to having the blood eagle cut into him on national television.