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autistic dog said:
Example: "if anyone molest my child I will kill them slowly and painfully". In this example for this to be considered a threat the person would have to admit their intent to molest my child.
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This is a hypothetical, not a credible and immediate threat aimed at a specific person.
Even if they said "I am going to molest your child" and you calmly responded with "I will kill you if you do" I'm pretty sure it's still not an issue unless there is clear intent.
Aggressively moving towards someone in a threatening manner saying "I'm going to kill you!" is across the line though.
 
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Hitlerswag420 said:
Zero chance this actually holds up. The president has the power to issue unconditional pardons. Using an electric pen instead of his hand to make the signature makes no difference. Sorry to anybody who wants to see fauci in prison, but remember that whatever power you give to your side, it will be used by the other side when the pendulum swings in that direction
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Literally the whole point of how our republic is supposed to work

Trump is not creating some "new" power that can be used by the other side. He's blocking or overturning the fascist attempt to do that
 
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Catgirl Tyranid said:
People lie on the internet you retard. The Dems are trying to astro-turf consent thinking they can socially pressure the populace back onto their plantation.
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What does this have to do with anything? I've never been a registered Dem voter, nor have I ever supported lefty causes. I don't even like either actual "option" in America because they're both the same at the end of the day. Not going to fool myself into thinking I'm making a difference by playing around with a pick your poison ritual every four years regardless of tribalist NPCs from either side shrieking about people not voting. - Moloch or Baal, it's the same result either way.
 
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jje100010001 said:
I think that second part is important, especially since it seems like Trump did use an electronic signature for the J6 pardons?

The fascinating thing is that this might make the Dems pull out Joe to make him say he did it for realsies. Who knows what he’s like now?

Otherwise any written statement will probably be doubted- though I don’t doubt the Dems will try to just make a federal judge overturn this.
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The autopen is not the part that is being challenged. Only the PRESIDENT can issue pardons. Not staffers or anyone else
 
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Taser Confetti said:
I would have preferred if the same President had the same passion about BLM burning down half of America. But hey, those riots weren’t targeted against Trump’s favorite race.
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You have a short memory because he did all he could for the BLM riots, He was hamstrung a lot by state governors denying him and saying "no you can't use the state's national guard to quell the riots"
 
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Party Hat Wurmple said:
I could absolutely see Biden or Jill saying "Leave us alone and you can have everyone else".
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I honestly think that already have and that is why all this is happening.

I woiuld not be surprised if that is why Hunter’s Pardon was clearly Joe.

What bigger F you is there than letting them all think they are safe until the guy that will crush them has everything in place to do so and pulling the rug out from under them?
 
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mindlessobserver said:
I would prefer hezbollah sympathizers not teach in America.
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Or at least be not so dumb about covering up her tracks. It's so easy to pass off a visit to Lebanon as a simple visiting family trip but having pictures of Nasrallah in your deleted items folder is straight up retarded. You would figure that someone who was clearly trying to hide her affiliation would know how to actually permanently delete photos.
 
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First time I’m unsure what Trump’s play is. He knows many of the pardons weren’t signed or even read by Biden. So is he trying to prosecute to get more about his enemies out in the public, seek justice, distract so he can focus on illegals and cutting off usaid like projects? Or a combination of all of these?

Like with Canada being called a state it’s more about distraction and leverage in trade. The gold card is about optics in showing what it truly costs to bring in dead weight and support them. This is the first time im not sure how this will play out and I’m excited. My gut tells me undoing any specific pardon isn’t the play, but it’ll be like doge. Show the most egregious pardons one by one and have Biden answer if he did that. Start with cash for kids guy. Then see how it plays out.
 
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autistic dog said:
I have always wondered about this. Can you make statements about committing a crime in response to a more egregious crime?

Example: "if anyone molest my child I will kill them slowly and painfully". In this example for this to be considered a threat the person would have to admit their intent to molest my child.
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Honestly I feel like this is one of those situations where It depends on if the cops want to act on it or the DA wants to try to charge for it.

There's a video that was played in basic training a long time ago, the break down is that a young recruit was getting charged for drinking underage, or at least she was until she gave the full story. It turns out what had actually happened was that an older NCO had given her the alcohol which she drank on her own volition, but once she was drunk the NCO sexually assault her. In this situation even though the female willingly broke the law by drinking, she wasn't charged as the bigger concern was the NCO who gave her the alcohol to rape her in the first place.
 
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Candlelight Desolation said:
What does this have to do with anything? I've never been a registered Dem voter, nor have I ever supported lefty causes. I don't even like either actual "option" in America because they're both the same at the end of the day. Not going to fool myself into thinking I'm making a difference by playing around with a pick your poison ritual every four years regardless of tribalist NPCs from either side shrieking about people not voting. - Moloch or Baal, it's the same result either way.
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If it's any consolation, you wouldn't be making a difference if you were voting anyway. One vote doesn't matter. The reality of the situation is that people feel involved in politics to the extent they feel informed, and to the extent that they argue. We're all enjoying the show, and I think most of us are aware that it's ultimately out of our hands. (Individually speaking)

ETA: (I have also never voted, and for exactly the same reason. Though I might vote for Vance in 2028 now)
 
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