US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[Candlelight Desolation]

People lie on the internet you retard. The Dems are trying to astro-turf consent thinking they can socially pressure the populace back onto their plantation.

What does this have to do with anything? I've never been a registered Dem voter, nor have I ever supported lefty causes. I don't even like either actual "option" in America because they're both the same at the end of the day. Not going to fool myself into thinking I'm making a difference by playing around with a pick your poison ritual every four years regardless of tribalist NPCs from either side shrieking about people not voting. - Moloch or Baal, it's the same result either way.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Use this paint for the fence

https://www.culturehustleusa.com/products/white-20?srsltid=AfmBOor9lBiMUqrRtv6_O-XR7zYs615igNF9-i8969qpwga8qlfCjT4d

WTF.

I COULD GET LIKE 50 EGGS FOR THE PRICE OF 5 OUNCES OF PAINT. Fuck that shit.

 

[Yamaha YM2612]

I think that second part is important, especially since it seems like Trump did use an electronic signature for the J6 pardons?

The fascinating thing is that this might make the Dems pull out Joe to make him say he did it for realsies. Who knows what he’s like now?

Otherwise any written statement will probably be doubted- though I don’t doubt the Dems will try to just make a federal judge overturn this.

The autopen is not the part that is being challenged. Only the PRESIDENT can issue pardons. Not staffers or anyone else

 

[Professor Donger]

I would have preferred if the same President had the same passion about BLM burning down half of America. But hey, those riots weren’t targeted against Trump’s favorite race.

You have a short memory because he did all he could for the BLM riots, He was hamstrung a lot by state governors denying him and saying "no you can't use the state's national guard to quell the riots"

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I could absolutely see Biden or Jill saying "Leave us alone and you can have everyone else".

I honestly think that already have and that is why all this is happening.

I woiuld not be surprised if that is why Hunter’s Pardon was clearly Joe.

What bigger F you is there than letting them all think they are safe until the guy that will crush them has everything in place to do so and pulling the rug out from under them?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

I would prefer hezbollah sympathizers not teach in America.

Or at least be not so dumb about covering up her tracks. It's so easy to pass off a visit to Lebanon as a simple visiting family trip but having pictures of Nasrallah in your deleted items folder is straight up retarded. You would figure that someone who was clearly trying to hide her affiliation would know how to actually permanently delete photos.

 

[greenthrowaway]

First time I’m unsure what Trump’s play is. He knows many of the pardons weren’t signed or even read by Biden. So is he trying to prosecute to get more about his enemies out in the public, seek justice, distract so he can focus on illegals and cutting off usaid like projects? Or a combination of all of these?

Like with Canada being called a state it’s more about distraction and leverage in trade. The gold card is about optics in showing what it truly costs to bring in dead weight and support them. This is the first time im not sure how this will play out and I’m excited. My gut tells me undoing any specific pardon isn’t the play, but it’ll be like doge. Show the most egregious pardons one by one and have Biden answer if he did that. Start with cash for kids guy. Then see how it plays out.

 

[Irregardless]

I have always wondered about this. Can you make statements about committing a crime in response to a more egregious crime?

Example: "if anyone molest my child I will kill them slowly and painfully". In this example for this to be considered a threat the person would have to admit their intent to molest my child.

Honestly I feel like this is one of those situations where It depends on if the cops want to act on it or the DA wants to try to charge for it.

There's a video that was played in basic training a long time ago, the break down is that a young recruit was getting charged for drinking underage, or at least she was until she gave the full story. It turns out what had actually happened was that an older NCO had given her the alcohol which she drank on her own volition, but once she was drunk the NCO sexually assault her. In this situation even though the female willingly broke the law by drinking, she wasn't charged as the bigger concern was the NCO who gave her the alcohol to rape her in the first place.

 

[Polyarmory]

What does this have to do with anything? I've never been a registered Dem voter, nor have I ever supported lefty causes. I don't even like either actual "option" in America because they're both the same at the end of the day. Not going to fool myself into thinking I'm making a difference by playing around with a pick your poison ritual every four years regardless of tribalist NPCs from either side shrieking about people not voting. - Moloch or Baal, it's the same result either way.

If it's any consolation, you wouldn't be making a difference if you were voting anyway. One vote doesn't matter. The reality of the situation is that people feel involved in politics to the extent they feel informed, and to the extent that they argue. We're all enjoying the show, and I think most of us are aware that it's ultimately out of our hands. (Individually speaking)

ETA: (I have also never voted, and for exactly the same reason. Though I might vote for Vance in 2028 now)

 

[Vapid_Idiot]

First time I’m unsure what Trump’s play is. He knows many of the pardons weren’t signed or even read by Biden. So is he trying to prosecute to get more about his enemies out in the public, seek justice, distract so he can focus on illegals and cutting off usaid like projects? Or a combination of all of these?

Like with Canada being called a state it’s more about distraction and leverage in trade. The gold card is about optics in showing what it truly costs to bring in dead weight and support them. This is the first time im not sure how this will play out and I’m excited. My gut tells me undoing any specific pardon isn’t the play, but it’ll be like doge. Show the most egregious pardons one by one and have Biden answer if he did that. Start with cash for kids guy. Then see how it plays out.

They don’t want any one digging deeper into the 8,000 (a new world record) pardons by Biden, just like they don’t want anyone mentioning the 14 million votes that up and vanished this election cycle.

 

[Taser Confetti]

You have a short memory because he did all he could for the BLM riots, He was hamstrung a lot by state governors denying him and saying "no you can't use the state's national guard to quell the riots"

Didn’t stop Eisenhower.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

What does this have to do with anything? I've never been a registered Dem voter, nor have I ever supported lefty causes. I don't even like either actual "option" in America because they're both the same at the end of the day. Not going to fool myself into thinking I'm making a difference by playing around with a pick your poison ritual every four years regardless of tribalist NPCs from either side shrieking about people not voting. - Moloch or Baal, it's the same result either way.

You were responding to this:

And yep, here it comes.. The life long MAGA friend that sees the light and is now a raging lefty Democrat. Just like we saw on here a bit ago.

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/cauXn

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I don't give a shit if you vote or not, but assuming any legitimacy in this obviously fake post is retarded.

 

[RodgerDodger]

First time I’m unsure what Trump’s play is. He knows many of the pardons weren’t signed or even read by Biden. So is he trying to prosecute to get more about his enemies out in the public, seek justice, distract so he can focus on illegals and cutting off usaid like projects? Or a combination of all of these?

Like with Canada being called a state it’s more about distraction and leverage in trade. The gold card is about optics in showing what it truly costs to bring in dead weight and support them. This is the first time im not sure how this will play out and I’m excited. My gut tells me undoing any specific pardon isn’t the play, but it’ll be like doge. Show the most egregious pardons one by one and have Biden answer if he did that. Start with cash for kids guy. Then see how it plays out.

He's forcing the Dem's to publicly defend these shady as fuck pardons. While at the same time putting the s[spotlight on what they actually did with regards to Covid and the Jan 6 riots, that required that they be "pardoned". It's effectively a No Lose situation for Trump. What's the worst case? That he forces the Supreme Court to weigh in on at a minimum the processes and procedures surrounding Presidential Pardons? To voice an opinion on "Presumptive Pardons" without an underlying defined crime? To shine more light on just how mentally unfit Biden was and force the issue of "who was really in charge during the Biden Presidency" out into the open?

We use the phrase 4d chess a lot. Without it having any actual meaning. But this? This is an actual master chess move. At a worst case the Courts uphold the Biden Pardons. But the people now know exactly what they did to warrant them.

 

[Professor Donger]

Didn’t stop Eisenhower.

Eisenhower had a lot more political freedom on what he could use the military for than most Presidents after him. That's like saying "Man I sure do wish Trump would arrest a state legislature for not voting the way he wants like Lincoln did" ignoring that Lincoln was able to do so because of circumstances Trump doesn't have.

 

[Breadbassket]

Didn’t stop Eisenhower.

Was Eisenhower's own Defense Secretary pushing back on his decisions and plans?

 

[DickMain]

First time I’m unsure what Trump’s play is

It fulfills a few purposes.

Firstly it's part of the usual late-weekend media blitzkrieg that will have the entire media machine tripping over each other first thing Monday morning to break the story to the general public (winding them up on their own free time when they should be relaxing), the public themselves will be frothing at the mouth over these wackier weekend issues first thing come Monday, and probably stay talking about it all week having missed other, smaller changes and announcements in policy during their working hours through the rest of the week.

Secondly, probably more importantly, it forces the dems and their pocket judges to pick a hill to die on; even if Biden hadn't signed his EO's and pardons and an aide was doing it, how do we handle it going forward? If the dem judges come out to say that what Biden's aide did was legit, then that invites any future administrations to do the same thing. If they say 'no, that's absolutely not allowed' then any future administration can throw that back in their faces the next time they try to pull this bullshit. It's not about repealing any sort of EO's or pardons, it's about putting the dems into a corner and making them pick a position on the matter so that the rules of engagement going forward are plain and clear.

 

[Professor Donger]

Was Eisenhower's own Defense Secretary pushing back on his decisions and plans?

Right? People ignore that Trump's admin was full of people who didn't want Trump to succeed

 

[quaawaa]

The astronauts are coming home:

Source (Archive)

 

[mlanguishi]

LOL

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1901688692353237258

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

It fulfills a few purposes.

Firstly it's part of the usual late-weekend media blitzkrieg that will have the entire media machine tripping over each other first thing Monday morning to break the story to the general public (winding them up on their own free time when they should be relaxing), the public themselves will be frothing at the mouth over these wackier weekend issues first thing come Monday, and probably stay talking about it all week having missed other, smaller changes and announcements in policy during their working hours through the rest of the week.

Secondly, probably more importantly, it forces the dems and their pocket judges to pick a hill to die on; even if Biden hadn't signed his EO's and pardons and an aide was doing it, how do we handle it going forward? If the dem judges come out to say that what Biden's aide did was legit, then that invites any future administrations to do the same thing. If they say 'no, that's absolutely not allowed' then any future administration can throw that back in their faces the next time they try to pull this bullshit. It's not about repealing any sort of EO's or pardons, it's about putting the dems into a corner and making them pick a position on the matter so that the rules of engagement going forward are plain and clear.

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