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Should be a wild four years.

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It fulfills a few purposes.

Firstly it's part of the usual late-weekend media blitzkrieg that will have the entire media machine tripping over each other first thing Monday morning to break the story to the general public (winding them up on their own free time when they should be relaxing), the public themselves will be frothing at the mouth over these wackier weekend issues first thing come Monday, and probably stay talking about it all week having missed other, smaller changes and announcements in policy during their working hours through the rest of the week.

Secondly, probably more importantly, it forces the dems and their pocket judges to pick a hill to die on; even if Biden hadn't signed his EO's and pardons and an aide was doing it, how do we handle it going forward? If the dem judges come out to say that what Biden's aide did was legit, then that invites any future administrations to do the same thing. If they say 'no, that's absolutely not allowed' then any future administration can throw that back in their faces the next time they try to pull this bullshit. It's not about repealing any sort of EO's or pardons, it's about putting the dems into a corner and making them pick a position on the matter so that the rules of engagement going forward are plain and clear.
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He's forcing the Dem's to publicly defend these shady as fuck pardons. While at the same time putting the s[spotlight on what they actually did with regards to Covid and the Jan 6 riots, that required that they be "pardoned". It's effectively a No Lose situation for Trump. What's the worst case? That he forces the Supreme Court to weigh in on at a minimum the processes and procedures surrounding Presidential Pardons? To voice an opinion on "Presumptive Pardons" without an underlying defined crime? To shine more light on just how mentally unfit Biden was and force the issue of "who was really in charge during the Biden Presidency" out into the open?

We use the phrase 4d chess a lot. Without it having any actual meaning. But this? This is an actual master chess move. At a worst case the Courts uphold the Biden Pardons. But the people now know exactly what they did to warrant them.
I think the 4d chess is real to some extent but I think you're giving Trump way too much credit for this one. It's a stupid move no matter how you cut it and Dems aren't going to suddenly realize their pardons are immoral—they already knew that. They're going to attack Trump for going after the Constitution, which he quite literally is this time around.

Even in the event that Biden was this rotting corpse who had no idea what he signed, there's no way you can convince me that he didn't agree with these pardons.
 
assuming any legitimacy in this obviously fake post is retarded.
Even if it's fake, it reminds me of how people in America can be over politics - I've seen plenty of people leave the GOP, become Democrats, and believe the exact opposite of every last talking point they used to support and double down in doing so. Even if the Democratic Underground post is fake, situations like that actually do happen irl. Like just throw out the baby with the bathwater instead of looking into other branches of right wing politics.
 
But if the pardons were issued without Biden's knowing or approval then they are pretty much a forgery. The President has the power of pardon, not random staffers with an autopen.
All they need to do is to get Biden to announce that he did have those pardons signed under his authority and the entire case disappears. How much money do you think Biden would take to do so? We all know he takes bribes.

Zero chance this actually holds up. The president has the power to issue unconditional pardons. Using an electric pen instead of his hand to make the signature makes no difference. Sorry to anybody who wants to see fauci in prison, but remember that whatever power you give to your side, it will be used by the other side when the pendulum swings in that direction
I think you are right. It will get squashed in the first day it hits the courts. But until then, the prosecutors have an excuse to investigate, collect evidence, announce what facts they have found to the public, submit charging documents to the court.

This will be a media circus that nobody can help rubbernecking.

As they say, sometimes the process is the punishment.

Win or lose, Trump wins.
 
First time I’m unsure what Trump’s play is. He knows many of the pardons weren’t signed or even read by Biden. So is he trying to prosecute to get more about his enemies out in the public, seek justice, distract so he can focus on illegals and cutting off usaid like projects? Or a combination of all of these?

Like with Canada being called a state it’s more about distraction and leverage in trade. The gold card is about optics in showing what it truly costs to bring in dead weight and support them. This is the first time im not sure how this will play out and I’m excited. My gut tells me undoing any specific pardon isn’t the play, but it’ll be like doge. Show the most egregious pardons one by one and have Biden answer if he did that. Start with cash for kids guy. Then see how it plays out.
If the president can just do things, or things can just be done his name, then what makes Trump different from Biden?
Trump understands one thing.
His enemies will do the opposite of whatever he does. Therefore, he can manipulate them into any position he wants. The problem is how do you "seal the deal".
God Emperor of Dune is all about this. Once you have unquestionable power and prescience, how do you convince the midwits you are right and should be followed?
Give them a lesson their bones will remember.
 
We use the phrase 4d chess a lot. Without it having any actual meaning. But this? This is an actual master chess move. At a worst case the Courts uphold the Biden Pardons. But the people now know exactly what they did to warrant them.
All they need to do is to get Biden to announce that he did have those pardons signed under his authority and the entire case disappears. How much money do you think Biden would take to do so? We all know he takes bribes.
This is why I'm wondering if Trump already talked with Biden and he admitted he had no idea what these pardons were.
 
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FAGGOT.

EAT THIS AND DIE.
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border enforcement and going after dementia joe are two different things. ones actual law being enforced and the other is political theatre for retards like you. no better than the left trannies whining that the worlds going to end every other day
 
If Trump can provide legitimate evidence that Biden had no knowledge of approval of the pardons signed in his name, would this still hold up?

It seems pretty damn clear to me that Biden had no knowledge of anything other than wanting his icecream and he's done a fresh load in his Depends and so he needs chanaging.
 
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border enforcement and going after dementia joe are two different things. ones actual law being enforced and the other is political theatre for retards like you. no better than the left trannies whining that the worlds going to end every other day
Except again he's going after Joe specifically because he may not have signed the pardons or known about them, which is illegal. Sure it might not hold up in court but it's a valid thing to bring up.
 
it's funny that, like with all featured posts on kiwi farms, you have tons of people rushing in to give their very uninformed opinions on whatever topic the feature was about

but instead of people showing their ignorance with intimate details about fat, ugly nobodies on the internet that will die with almost no notoriety in the history books, their ignorance is about current events, major political figures, basic legal knowledge, logical thinking, and other things any white person with an eighth grade education should be able to figure out
 
Except again he's going after Joe specifically because he may not have signed the pardons or known about them, which is illegal. Sure it might not hold up in court but it's a valid thing to bring up.
i dont even disagree. joe was obviously incompetent and his jew handlers were using his signature to do whatever they wanted because he didnt know what day of the week it was. but again, this is political theatre. its not going to hold up just like it never does. its going to be spoken about in the media, people will argue about it, nothing will happen and then in a week there will be something else. its embarrassing.
 
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