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[The Jewel of the Nile]

I beg you Jason to do a good deed today and drive one of those to Ukraine
The sheer entitlement of a canadian transplant to dictate what cars do and don't belong on our streets. Go choke on a dick.

 

[Lovely Kin]

The sheer entitlement of a canadian transplant to dictate what cars do and don't belong on our streets. Go choke on a dick.

Telling other people what to do is the most Canadian thing

 

[Spaztic]

I drop in here sometimes to laff at the insane-o's, we always used to hate on "Lance" back in the day and sometimes throw pennies at his various incarnations.

I gotta say though, the new E-bikes are revolutionary as far as I'm concerned. Pretty basic bike with a jailbreak will go 30+mph and the biggest retail ones go almsot 40! Shit's like a moped without the chinese engine (chinese battery instead) and the better ones have higher performance brakes, wheels, and suspension than chinapeds, which is really important when you start talking about reaching 40mph.

I guess they make full electric moto/dual sports now too. For something like this that would be limited range anyway, it's absolutely perfect for any kind of urban or even suburban riding. In a bunch of states laws haven't caught up and none of the motorcycle laws apply (technically once its jailbroken for speed they do but feh). Yes I wear gear and a helmet so people know I'm serious.

I haven't looked in the thread lately to see if there are e-bike maniacs but they may actually have a point this time. I spontaneously purchased a higher end cruiser and found myself using it instead of the car, and I'm not in an especially high traffic area. They'll get 30+ miles flat out fully loaded, but if you pedal a little and wrk the throttle it's more like 50 miles - which was more than my commute used to be. Problem is, only Florida (and proabbly Cali) have lane accommodations for them, and it's still a bit risky on the faster bypasses. But goddamn are the things useable. If I lived downtown or in a built up corridor I would basically only use that thing. Even in my backroad sector, it takres me the same amount of time to ride the bike 20 miles as it does to run the car. Big opposite of buyer's remorse but I just gotta say.... e-bikes are right and you're wrong

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Telling other people what to do is the most Canadian thing

I genuinely will never understand how Canadians ever gained a reputation for being polite and good natured. Anyone who's ever interacted with Canadians will tell you how completely wrong that is.

I drop in here sometimes to laff at the insane-o's, we always used to hate on "Lance" back in the day and sometimes throw pennies at his various incarnations.

I gotta say though, the new E-bikes are revolutionary as far as I'm concerned. Pretty basic bike with a jailbreak will go 30+mph and the biggest retail ones go almsot 40! Shit's like a moped without the chinese engine (chinese battery instead) and the better ones have higher performance brakes, wheels, and suspension than chinapeds, which is really important when you start talking about reaching 40mph.

I guess they make full electric moto/dual sports now too. For something like this that would be limited range anyway, it's absolutely perfect for any kind of urban or even suburban riding. In a bunch of states laws haven't caught up and none of the motorcycle laws apply (technically once its jailbroken for speed they do but feh). Yes I wear gear and a helmet so people know I'm serious.

I haven't looked in the thread lately to see if there are e-bike maniacs but they may actually have a point this time. I spontaneously purchased a higher end cruiser and found myself using it instead of the car, and I'm not in an especially high traffic area. They'll get 30+ miles flat out fully loaded, but if you pedal a little and wrk the throttle it's more like 50 miles - which was more than my commute used to be. Problem is, only Florida (and proabbly Cali) have lane accommodations for them, and it's still a bit risky on the faster bypasses. But goddamn are the things useable. If I lived downtown or in a built up corridor I would basically only use that thing. Even in my backroad sector, it takres me the same amount of time to ride the bike 20 miles as it does to run the car. Big opposite of buyer's remorse but I just gotta say.... e-bikes are right and you're wrong

The problem with ebikes is that they aren't being sold by ebike fanatics as fun toys or mini motos. They're being sold as environmentally friendly alternatives to cars, and they are neither of those two things. I'm also waiting for law makers and regulations to catch up to them and requiring licensing and registration to ride them just like with a scooter or moped. My guess is it's going to happen after some trust fund kid either dies on one or vets run over by one.

Hell, most modern bicycles really aren't that environmentally friendly given all the exotic materials used to make them requiring a global supply chain.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

I gotta say though, the new E-bikes are revolutionary as far as I'm concerned. Pretty basic bike with a jailbreak

>jailbreak

Nigger am I supposed to hack an ebike to make it load what I want it to like I do with a Wii?

@Sleazy Car Salesman

It's part of the national mythology. The weird thing is actual Canadians are weird, racist, and evil. What they did to their natives is much worse than what the USA intentionally did to ours.

 

[WickyWickyWoW]

I'm also waiting for law makers and regulations to catch up to them and requiring licensing and registration to ride them just like with a scooter or moped.

I fucking hate this, when I was a teen I looked into a motorized bike since it would have been perfect at the time, in my state iirc you needed either a drivers license or something close to it with some other bullshit piled on making it impractical. A legitimate argument against cars and suburbia is a lot of the time teens are dependent on their parents chauffeuring then around, better lock down the functional alternative

Also wasn't the only draw and justified existence of the reliant robin aka the tricycle car is that minors could drive it due to a legal loophole?

 

[Bonesjones]

fucking hate this, when I was a teen I looked into a motorized bike since it would have been perfect at the time, in my state iirc you needed either a drivers license or something close to it with some other bullshit piled on making it impractical.

Motorized bicycles (what moped is long for) have never required a license, they just had very limited size and power maximums because its supposed to be a power assisted bicycle and not a motorized vehicle. The laws are to save idiots from themselves. With electric vehicles now way more powerful than before regulation hasn't caught up. Just Friday I got to watch people eat shit riding escooters at 25 mph down the sidewalk and eat shit constantly because they are still fucked up from the last hurricane.

A legitimate argument against cars and suburbia is a lot of the time teens are dependent on their parents chauffeuring then around, better lock down the functional alternative

I lived about 5 miles from my closest friends growing up, with huge hills, I'm not sympathetic. Bikes aren't difficult and about a mile of that was on the side of a 55mph major collector for the area. You just have to not be a dumb ass nor a coddled baby.

 

[WickyWickyWoW]

Motorized bicycles (what moped is long for) have never required a license, they just had very limited size and power maximums because its supposed to be a power assisted bicycle and not a motorized vehicle. The laws are to save idiots from themselves. With electric vehicles now way more powerful than before regulation hasn't caught up. Just Friday I got to watch people eat shit riding escooters at 25 mph down the sidewalk and eat shit constantly because they are still fucked up from the last hurricane.

You said hurricane so I assume you live in a red state, I'm in blue hell so it's a different world up here. In my time any kind of motorized bicycle was restricted and electric bikes really were not a thing so I was stuck with a normal bike or foot

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Also wasn't the only draw and justified existence of the reliant robin aka the tricycle car is that minors could drive it due to a legal loophole?

Yes, since the car has three wheels and a displacement smaller than some arbitrary number it was not technically a car as the law was concerned and so could be operated on a motorcycle license. Also in this particular case the loophole was popular with miners, not minors.

I fucking hate this, when I was a teen I looked into a motorized bike since it would have been perfect at the time, in my state iirc you needed either a drivers license or something close to it with some other bullshit piled on making it impractical.

I feel for you man, and I'm not in favor of more laws and regulations for ebikes either. But I will tell you which way I see the wind blowing. Now with that said (in my state at least) you only need a license and registration for any motorized vehicle over 50cc, so motorized bicycles are perfectly legal with8ut a license or registration so long as they have a 49cc or smaller engine. I'd check to see if your state is the same.

 

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

I drop in here sometimes to laff at the insane-o's, we always used to hate on "Lance" back in the day and sometimes throw pennies at his various incarnations.

I gotta say though, the new E-bikes are revolutionary as far as I'm concerned. Pretty basic bike with a jailbreak will go 30+mph and the biggest retail ones go almsot 40! Shit's like a moped without the chinese engine (chinese battery instead) and the better ones have higher performance brakes, wheels, and suspension than chinapeds, which is really important when you start talking about reaching 40mph.

I guess they make full electric moto/dual sports now too. For something like this that would be limited range anyway, it's absolutely perfect for any kind of urban or even suburban riding. In a bunch of states laws haven't caught up and none of the motorcycle laws apply (technically once its jailbroken for speed they do but feh). Yes I wear gear and a helmet so people know I'm serious.

I haven't looked in the thread lately to see if there are e-bike maniacs but they may actually have a point this time. I spontaneously purchased a higher end cruiser and found myself using it instead of the car, and I'm not in an especially high traffic area. They'll get 30+ miles flat out fully loaded, but if you pedal a little and wrk the throttle it's more like 50 miles - which was more than my commute used to be. Problem is, only Florida (and proabbly Cali) have lane accommodations for them, and it's still a bit risky on the faster bypasses. But goddamn are the things useable. If I lived downtown or in a built up corridor I would basically only use that thing. Even in my backroad sector, it takres me the same amount of time to ride the bike 20 miles as it does to run the car. Big opposite of buyer's remorse but I just gotta say.... e-bikes are right and you're wrong

Honestly, kinda wanna get one. is there any special permits you need or whatever?

 

[WickyWickyWoW]

Yes, since the car has three wheels and a displacement smaller than some arbitrary number it was not technically a car as the law was concerned and so could be operated on a motorcycle license. Also in this particular case the loophole was popular with miners, not minors.

are you serious, when I learned about the 3 wheeled abomination the guy who said miners said it with such a strong accent I thought he said minors

I feel for you man, and I'm not in favor of more laws and regulations for ebikes either. But I will tell you which way I see the wind blowing. Now with that said (in my state at least) you only need a license and registration for any motorized vehicle over 50cc, so motorized bicycles are perfectly legal with8ut a license or registration so long as they have a 49cc or smaller engine. I'd check to see if your state is the same.

That ship has sailed a long time ago, getting a license in my experience was a motherfucker and at that age I just wanted a quick way to get around. For all I know the law changed but chances are knowing this hellhole its only gotten worse

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

are you serious, when I learned about the 3 wheeled abomination the guy who said miners said it with such a strong accent I thought he said minors

As far as I am aware, yes. Although you must remember that in the UK miners are frequently the bottom or second to bottom rung of their society insofar as standards of living and social acceptance is concerned. Historically miners and mining towns in the UK were some severely impoverished motherfuckers and they never (as far as I am aware) had the unions or boomtown type wealth that miners in the States had.

Honestly, kinda wanna get one. is there any special permits you need or whatever?

Check your local laws dumbass.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I made a bingo card with a number of common elements in this thread. There are about 27 variables so you can play along at home.

https://mfbc.us/m/mpbcyak

 

[Crex Crex]

It's funny seeing leftist americunts think Europe is going car free. The only places where it's really happening are city centres, and that's either because they're a nightmare for viability anyway or because commies built a bunch of shit that needs to be cleaned out.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

I made a bingo card with a number of common elements in this thread. There are about 27 variables so you can play along at home.

View attachment 7101577

https://mfbc.us/m/mpbcyak

Perfect, but I would change Euro-worship and Japan-worship to """Euro"""-worship and """Japan"""- worship. I know I'm like a broken clock at this point but we need to distinguish between actual japanese and euro realities and whatever the fuck is in Jason fans' heads

 

[quaawaa]

Perfect, but I would change Euro-worship and Japan-worship to """Euro"""-worship and """Japan"""- worship. I know I'm like a broken clock at this point but we need to distinguish between actual japanese and euro realities and whatever the fuck is in Jason fans' heads

Speaking of which:

Spoiler: Other Images in Post

Excuses that would never be tolerated if the picture was of the US:







But the US has walkable areas:


Literally this meme:


/r/fuckcars (Archive)
/r/UrbanHell (Archive)

 

[Looseleaf Paper]

Speaking of which:

I remember seeing a documentary about Japan a couple of years ago and they talked about how Sapporo and most of Northern Japan (Hokkaido) was developed later in the country's lifespan and thus had a lot of American Influence (even direct influence at times) and my first thought was, "oh, r/fuckcars isn't going to like that." and I then realized I've spent too much time on the internet and took a break.

I laughed at this guy in particular

The post literally talks about Northern Japan, and yet he decides to bring up Hiroshima, which is a Southern city. He just has to cope somehow, so he essentially changes the subject.

 

[quaawaa]

You don't need a car if you live at work!:






Lots of sinophiles:



Anti-company town comments are downvoted:





The real issue with this factory:


Source (Archive)

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

That's retarded and untrue. They have plenty of street parking, even in the middle of Tokyo. I literally posted a pic from my last Japan trip somewhere in this thread (but I don't want to search for it so I'll just post it again):

Also, Japs love speeding and parking literally anywhere with the emergency lights on
Edit: they also have A LOT of shopping centers with absolutely massive parkings. Here's a crappy photo of Diver City in (on?) Odaiba:

And there is a second massive mall very close with equally giant parking

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Perfect, but I would change Euro-worship and Japan-worship to """Euro"""-worship and """Japan"""- worship. I know I'm like a broken clock at this point but we need to distinguish between actual japanese and euro realities and whatever the fuck is in Jason fans' heads

No, because almost everything in those circles is detached from reality. It would be more confusing if I said they hated """suburbs""" instead of suburbs because their """suburbs""" are surrounded by strip malls, giant roads, and highways yet somehow the supermarket is 30 minutes away.

Of course there's a difference between Europe and the fantasy Europe where almost no one drives and a loser like them can afford to live near a nice grocery store and/or boulangerie + everything else they could possibly want in a ten minute walk.