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[Gunter x Gunter]

I may have said this here before, but with very specific exceptions (characters entirely too iconic to mess with), if a character is made gay in some other continuity, movie, show, it's only a matter of time until they're made gay in the real continuity. And once they're gay, gay is all they'll ever be.

Yeah, this has always been that tactic post MCU blow up. Since normies don't read comics but still site them for cultural war retardation they homofy them by saying the comics did it. The same principal is done with people who read mainline comics, ideas like Gay GL and Black Spider-Man are introduced via alternate universe so when people complain they can deflect. But their true intention is almost always to bring it to the mainstream.

I remember New 52 Earth-2 having Black Val-Zod Superman while the retarded thing about superman being too pale for a solar based superhero. If DC was more competent than Marvel they we would have had an entire decade of Val-Zod in my continuity for normies to jump to for their black superman.

 

[Newcomer 42]

If making a character gay is not possible, then he (usually always a he) is made "bi" instead, which is forced as hell.
Related to the above, if a character is made black, he/she will stay black too.

I think they tried to make black and/or gay Batman and Superman but it was too obvious, so they tried with the latter's son. I'm not sure why Bruce Wayne hasn't been colored by now, but thankfully he stays as he is.

I hope that once the woke fad dies off, all of these variations are retconned as well.

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

I miss the times when Archie had REAL crossovers
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Shitposting aside, this is like one of my favorite comics ever. In spite of all odds it works - you can tell everyone had fun making it and the plot and characterization actually makes sense for everyone. Taking it just seriously enough while leaning into the inherent ridiculousness of the premise is exactly what makes reading comics so fun, and I always have a blast re-reading this one.

Spoiler: It also has the objectively best comic book page ever made.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Any fans of Megg, Mogg and Owl? It got me into indie comics.

 

[Another Random]

TL;DR: modern comics are shit.

While the above isn't exactly news, I'm posting here to complain about the current art 'quality' of Monica's Gang comics, if you can even call this shit art.
https://x.com/Feitostododia/status/1892570384924295663

Characters are just copypasted from one panel to the next, making them just look stiff and awful. They don't even remember that a character who stopped talking should close their mouth!

This one is pretty bad. They literally reused the mom's design on every panel, meaning she's bent and crooked every time. Even when it doesn't fit.

Literally two reused panels in a row with a single change to a mouth, but the characters are literally stuck in their positions. Just doesn't look natural.

Oh, and then there's the time where they basically googled an image of the moon instead of drawing one. And did shitty photoshopping to make the night redder on the last panel.

Obviously it wasn't this bad for most of its history, and I'm hoping that there's still good stories with non-shit art, but... well, it sure is disappointing to see what one's childhood turns into, years later.

 

[GoGoNoJo]

Any fans of Megg, Mogg and Owl? It got me into indie comics.

Great series. I'm really looking forward to Meg's Coven.
Have you read You Will Own Nothing And You Will Be Happy? It's another non-canon comic like Crisis Zone, except YWONAYWBH is a zombie apocalypse story. I thought it was interesting change of pace from the usual MM&O fare, and a nice little something to help tide us over until Meg's Coven.
It's sold out on Hanselman's webstore, but he serialized it on instagram so you can still read it if you're willing to comb through his old IG posts. He said that he's going to release two new zines soon (issue 4 of YWONAYWBH, and something else called Boys in Prison), so theres that to look forward to.

 

[fist_of_khonshu]

Any reccomendations for non superhero comics that you think are pretty good? I've read a few things like Plastique, Preacher, Last House on The Lake and ETC. I'm trying to break out of my comfort zone and get into comics that aren't just Superheroes and Co.

 

[LolRaccoon]

Any reccomendations for non superhero comics that you think are pretty good? I've read a few things like Plastique, Preacher, Last House on The Lake and ETC. I'm trying to break out of my comfort zone and get into comics that aren't just Superheroes and Co.

Fables is a fun read. If you like horror, anything by Junji Ito and Thomas Ott are good.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

Any reccomendations for non superhero comics that you think are pretty good? I've read a few things like Plastique, Preacher, Last House on The Lake and ETC. I'm trying to break out of my comfort zone and get into comics that aren't just Superheroes and Co.

Valerian's a good euro comic. Asterix, Tintin, etc.

There's good manga. Naoki Urasawa makes some good stuff like Pluto. I'd also recommend Berserk and Vagabond.

 

[Burt Ryan]

Any reccomendations for non superhero comics that you think are pretty good? I've read a few things like Plastique, Preacher, Last House on The Lake and ETC. I'm trying to break out of my comfort zone and get into comics that aren't just Superheroes and Co.

Hitman by Garth Ennis, 20th Century Boys by Urasawa, Slam Dunk by Inoue.

 

[Gunslinger Spawn]

Urasawa shit puts me to sleep tbh.
Dreddy and Lucky Luke are usually my go to non cape or Vertigo

 

[Alexander Thaut]

Urasawa shit puts me to sleep tbh.
Dreddy and Lucky Luke are usually my go to non cape or Vertigo

give his Master Keaton stuff a shot. It's episodic.

my main non-cape stuff is usually just me drifting and looking through old ligne claire comics or stuff by MOebius and co. Often I'll go look through manga too. I highly recommend Kingdom if anyone wants some decent historical fiction manga.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Any reccomendations for non superhero comics that you think are pretty good? I've read a few things like Plastique, Preacher, Last House on The Lake and ETC. I'm trying to break out of my comfort zone and get into comics that aren't just Superheroes and Co.

Transmetropolitan, 100 Bullets, The Sixth Gun, Criminal, and Punisher MAX is more crime than superhero but I understand if you want to stay away from it.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

Valerian's a good euro comic. Asterix, Tintin, etc.

Dragonero (Italian Witcher) had two volumes translated into English by Dark Horse. One was given the digest treatment, and one a full-sized hardcover.

Italian comics are sadly non-existent in America. Which is a shame, because there are a few I would read monthly if they were translated.

 

[Gunslinger Spawn]

Italian comics are sadly non-existent in America. Which is a shame, because there are a few I would read monthly if they were translated.

In where I live we have alot of them translated. It is a blast. English readers are really missing out big time. Dark Horse printed some of them. They had Mignola draw the covers for Dylan Dog English release. I still prefer Italian covers over his though. There are a few adaptations like Mysteré, Diabolik cartoons. Live action Dylan Dog movie is shit and doesn't even have Groucho in it so don't bother. I would even go far and say try machine translating.

Sergio Bonelli comics were all used to be about spaghetti westerns like Tex, Zagor which are still ongoing and fairly popular. No wonder Italians made shit like The Dollar Trilogy. The only exception I can remember is Diabolik (modern day action)

They started to branch out later with titles like Martin Mysteré (fantasy adventure), Nathan Never (sci-fi crime drama), Dylan Dog (occult horror mystery).

Dampyr (occult action), Dragonero (classic fantasy), Orfani (military sci-fi) etc. are fresh blood and holding up on their own.

Give them all a shot if you can find them in any way. I have been using machine translation for some French Belgian titles and it is surprisingly a decent experience.

They had a crossover with DC a few years back. Only Dylan Dog/Batman are officially translated as far as I know which is a shame. There are Zagor/Flash and Nathan Never/Justice League crossovers as well which I wasn't able to read yet.

 

[ChampFantana]

Transmetropolitan, 100 Bullets, The Sixth Gun, Criminal, and Punisher MAX is more crime than superhero but I understand if you want to stay away from it.

I'll second all of these except for Criminal which I haven't read.

I'll add Just a Pilgrim, Red Team, and Preacher to the list.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Holy goddamn was the Daredevil event 'Shadowland' awful. I finally finished reading it after taking a long break (could've sworn it was just a few months but the last time I posted about Daredevil in this thread was in 2022) and was blown away by how bad it was. The core concept of it is interesting: Matt taking over the Hand in an attempt to make it into a force for good but ends up getting corrupted by it instead. The execution, however, is complete dogshit.

The biggest problem for me is the complete lack of buildup. At the end of the prologue, Matt is still sane, rational, has a good moral compass, and is trying to pursue his goals of using the Hand for good (DD #507). Then the next issue (#1 of the Shadowland mini) Matt is already over the edge and kills Bullseye. I thought for sure I was missing a chunk of the story but, no, I wasn't. After that, the story barely moves by inches, made all the worse by the fact that at least 90% of the tie-ins are completely pointless and don't serve the core story at all. Hell, Marvel for some reason thinks this event is a good place to introduce a completely new Power Man character. Which isn't even getting into the Moon Knight issues, which are a literal waste of time (he's sent on a quest to find a mystical crescent weapon to stop DD... but ends up losing it and it's never brought up again). Then, as if this were the '90s, Ghost Rider is added for no real reason.

The plot also largely hinges on super obscure Hand lore: the Snakeroot group, a secret sect of the Hand introduced (and then never really used again until Shadowland) in the shitty second half of Chichester's run in the '90s, and The Beast, a creature introduced in an old Elektra miniseries. Also, even though Andy Diggle is almost the sole writer for the core story, continuity for the story is still pretty shit.

It's just a complete shit show and I can't think of a single good thing to say about it. Everything after #507 is just awful. It also seems to have basically ruined Angela Del Toro, who I liked. Black Tarantula also seems to have been largely abandoned after Shadowland.

Anyway, I'm a few issues into Mark Waid's DD run and so far it's good. I know Black Panther took over the title for a while -- was that stint worth reading?

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

I swear Fables was originally supposed to be optioned for a tv series but then shit happened and it got scrapped and retooled by the LOST writers as Once Upon a Time. It had probably some of the most godawful green screen effects (watch as the evil queen walks into the wedding) and trying to substitute Vancouver as Maine is...a choice.

Least we got The Wolf Among Us instead.

Still reading Secret Six. Villains United is fun. The one issue entirely devoted to the group being brutally tortured was honestly shocking to me. Catman is actually a well developed character. Like the way they took him from being a fucking loser to more of a vicious funny himbo is fascinating. It reminds me of (no animal pun intended) how George Pérez wrote Cheetah. She went from a typical themed golden age villain to a wealthy British psychopath archeologist who does blood sacrifices to appease her god like a superhero Jezebel.
I basically hear the Rag Doll's lines in the voice of Him from Powerpuff Girls.

 

[ChampFantana]

Adventures in the Rifle Brigade by Ennis and Ezquerra is easily the funniest comic book I've ever read.

Any other comedic books you guys can recommend?

 

[Bruce LaLiLuLeLo]

Adventures in the Rifle Brigade by Ennis and Ezquerra is easily the funniest comic book I've ever read.

Any other comedic books you guys can recommend?

Great fucking coincidence, I was rereading it for the third or so time. Definitely recommend the Pro by garth ennis, very very funny albeit a bit short.