Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

why did he cut down the 5000$ fee and put it at only 1k?

The District Judge did that, not the Magistrate. In fact, the Magistrate wants to revisit that during the hearing.

 

[Bunkerhousing]

The District Judge did that, not the Magistrate. In fact, the Magistrate wants to revisit that during the hearing.

Aha, thanks for clarifying. Hard to follow all the ins and outs, ups and downs in this case, worse than Elmo. Also confusing with all the courts that have to dip in and out and everywhere.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Isn't there someone whose consent we forgot to ask for? We need to see what Florida Judge thinks of the sanctions.

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

Isn't there someone whose consent we forgot to ask for? We need to see what Florida Judge thinks of the sanctions.

Motion to Reassure the Previously Inconvenienced Court

 

[Irene and 22 others]

The District Judge did that, not the Magistrate. In fact, the Magistrate wants to revisit that during the hearing.

What point is there in revisiting that at all unless it's just to lay out on the record that the magistrate judge accepts the requested amount by Hardin as fair, but that the district judge has reduced it to $1,000 which may be useful for an appeal later on.

The only other thing that comes to mind is the magistrate wanting to impose new sanctions to which an additional amount, which coincidentally looks like whatever he wanted to award Hardin minus $1,000 gets tacked on for reasons that may ultimately remain a complete mystery for all time.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

What point is there in revisiting that at all

A lot of stupid, unpredictable shit has happened including reinstating this wetbrained claim on the basis that reposting a DMCA takedown is somehow a call to arms, so although we may have an understanding of what is supposed to happen, all bets are off.

Maybe the Magistrate will say "Nah, I'm vetoing the District Judge's decision because he had no right to do that"

Either way, whether he reimburses Hardin officially or unofficially is neither here nor there.

All that's practically guaranteed is that the Magistrate is going to be pissed the fuck off at needing the hearing at all and Russtard has difficulty conducting himself properly in stressful situations. So try your best to tune in live and brace for funny.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I would ask of you, if judge want case to behave like a proper case, why did he cut down the 5000$ fee and put it at only 1k? This have been stated in the thread is not the proper procedure.

Please give me a one paragraph explanation for why I shouldn't threadban you. Not only did you grossly misunderstood the post you were quoting, you are horribly misunderstanding basic fucking rulings; rulings that I have explained many many times.

To properly answer your post - he didn't. I know keeping track of two different people is a herculean task, but that's just something you are going to have to live with.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Russtard has difficulty conducting himself properly in stressful situations. So try your best to tune in live and brace for funny.

It's not like he's aggressive or defiant in person. Every time he's been recorded in court he is basically exposing his belly and begging for leniency. "I didn't understand, I'm sorry I didn't understand, I understand now, please understand that I didn't understand." There will be no buddy boys, no fuck you you're not a real lawyer, no threats of violence. Court is where he knows he is 100% out of his element even though that's where he says he wants it all to end up. He will either meekly comply with everything or beg for pity, as he always does.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Sure all pending motions are halted, sure one of them is about freezing/restarting discovery due to new complaint and defendants, but shouldn't discovery move on meanwhile?

Nobody wants to do discovery now, and if Mr. Hardin's motions are granted, that discovery will just be a waste of Null's money.

 

[cromit]

Nobody wants to do discovery now

Russ has never actually wanted to do discovery. He’s got all the ebbidance he needs, maaaaan! KF is like, totally evil, they talked about his book and his songs and look at all these Hitlers! Quit hassling him for documents about his other court cases where he might have claimed that all of his damages stemmed from Taylor Swift or Ariana Grande or a lack of whores, GAWD!

 

[FamicomGorby]

The greatest legal (or otherwise) fiction penned in the 21st century!

Could be worth figuring out a way to force Greer to try and prove that he actually has a single fan of his work. As far as I know his only fame comes from his infamy and no one has seriously viewed his works except to make fun of them.

Nobody wants to do discovery now, and if Mr. Hardin's motions are granted, that discovery will just be a waste of Null's money.

I did notice that Greer hasn't been pursuing any discovery himself. He did put that demand that Null show how many times he viewed his thread but then didn't follow up on that in months.

 

[Pedophobe]

What point is there in revisiting that

There may have been some procedural problems with the district court judge's ruling because he didn't seek a response from the defendant before making it.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I know it has to be weighted against pissing off the magistrate, but Hardin mentioned 20+ requests to go still a while ago, and time's a'tickin,

Where did he say that? Has Hardin actually requested more than Greer's litigation documents? I thought the 20+ requests mentioned in the scheduling hearing was potential requests, following up on what he learned about from initial discovery. Russ played games there, and the only followup I'm aware of was the one around document deletion that just got denied.




If this was a non-retarded case Hardin would have gone back and forth and probably got everything he needed by now. But this case is Greertarded, and Hardin knew he was going to go back and forth multiple times dealing with insane objections. And now he's stuck at 2 times, without even getting the basic full litigation list he wanted at the start.



The judge was willing to hear arguments for increasing the number to 100, but Greer messed everything up so badly Hardin can't even move on to #3.

Edit: these are just the requests Hardin has filed as exhibits to motions to compel production. It's possible Hardin sent more over that aren't on the docket yet because Greer actually complied without a court order, but if you believe that I've got a bridge to sell you.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

It's not like he's aggressive or defiant in person.

True. He pretty much just went along with everything Mr Hardin said at the initial hearing. I don't think we'll get a repeat of the severity of the knuckle rapping he got for the "ass kicking with evidence" and "there will be blood" comments, but I expect him to be told for the final time that the SPO was never violated. He seems utterly unable to concede that point.

Shitlips is under immense pressure to behave himself in the face of a wave of sanctions and an audience full of hate-watchers. Precious hooker tokens are on the line here, Russtard! Make sure you fight vociferously to remind the Magistrate that you simply didn't know you should verify whether your witnesses are alive and want to testify on your behalf before you say they are! Tell him to moooooove ooooon!

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

You goys don't think wild enough.

The next filing is going to be Russ - filing to intercede in his own case.

 

[StinkySnack]

You goys don't think wild enough.

The next filing is going to be Russ - filing to intercede in his own case.

As The Agent and Settler for the Corporation known as Russell Greer?

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

As The Agent and Settler for the Corporation known as Russell Greer?

Chief Soliciting Agent of the Wild West Resort comes now....

 

[Allied-Mastercomputer]

“Motion to undo the Hearing that has already been Scheduled”

 

[Sneedfully and Peacefully]

I hope for the funnies but the best I can expect is the judge doing a relatively mild dress down of Greer. As stated already he's always mild and meek when called in front of the principal... Judge. He's gonna do what he said in his book and zone out until he hears his name explicitly called and then nod and agree. Thankfully with a paralyzed face him staring off into space and drooling is standard appearances.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

My IANAL reading is still that the Magistrate Judge first ordered Russ to show cause for why he shouldn't have to pay for Hardin's first motion to exclude. After the witness shenanigans was when the Judge said Russ "hid the ball for seven months" and wanted to sanction him for that whole period.

My theory is that the District Judge awarded such a low number of $1,000 because he was still sanctioning Russ for that ONE motion, not the whole 7 months.

So I think the Magistrate Judge wouldn't have to overrule the District Judge, he would just be saying "Okay, you pay $1,000 for the first motion to exclude, plus you're sanctioned for the rest of Hardin's hours over the course of 7 months."