Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Doctor of Autism]

Maybe it's just the art style but for me he looks like a Mexican or a Spainard. Maybe it's his hair doesn't scream black, his features looks white to me personally. I wonder if Viv has any black friends or people she associates with.

The most I can think of is if Vivzie made Alastor's human form resemble his voice actor and made him look Iranian.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Makes me wonder why do this retcon when his demon form still looks white as fuck. Wouldn't be hard to make his hair/fur as like a little curly like this or deepen his skin. Velvette has dark skin like she would have as a human.

The most I can think of is it may or may not have to do with the critical tards who were like “Nooooo white people can’t use voodoo! Muh closed religion, closed culture!” And he was changed just enough to still closely resemble his original human design.

 

[Re(Runner)48]

The most I can think of is if Vivzie made Alastor's human form resemble his voice actor and made him look Iranian.

The guy who talked about Alastor eating more white people when he looks like this.

Guy looks so white. He looks like his name could be Steve for godsake.

I don't understand the picking a choosing of characters races based on VA's

 

[Saxxon]

Like I would honestly love to have them clash with eachother and have all these different view points. Knowing Viv I think all of her characters would have similar if not the same political views/views of the world.

The only thing resembling this idea is Zestial talking in a old form of English but other than that, everyone is on the same page in terms of knowledgment of the modern world. If this series was better written, you would have an scene establishing how fresh sinners are sought after not only because their naivety makes them perfect victims but also because they hold precious information about our current world and its tech advancements.

In other news, remember how many fans bitched that the February merch drop contained zero representation of the two main villains Adam and Lute? Well, cry no more because we finally have some!

TWO(2) trading cards, that's it, don't forget to say thanks for all the hard work that went into making them shitlords, no stop asking about season 2 and stop leaking shit, thanks. Oh and by the way no, they didn't announced this in any of their official channels.

 

[Re(Runner)48]

how fresh sinners are sought after not only because their naivety makes them perfect victims but also because they hold precious information about our current world and its tech advancements.

Unironically I was thinking the same thing, and wanted to add that for Velvet (at least giving the girl SOMETHING) and capitalizing her knowledge to grow Vox's technologic empire.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Since the leaks confirmed Alastor os now officially actually brown skinned with curly hair when alive-

In the thumbnail, it looks like he's wearing earrings. He really looks like a mulattofaggot. (or half niggerfaggot)

The only thing resembling this idea is Zestial talking in a old form of English but other than that, everyone is on the same page in terms of knowledgment of the modern world. If this series was better written, you would have an scene establishing how fresh sinners are sought after not only because their naivety makes them perfect victims but also because they hold precious information about our current world and its tech advancements.

In other news, remember how many fans bitched that the February merch drop contained zero representation of the two main villains Adam and Lute? Well, cry no more because we finally have some!
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TWO(2) trading cards, that's it, don't forget to say thanks for all the hard work that went into making them shitlords, no stop asking about season 2 and stop leaking shit, thanks. Oh and by the way no, they didn't announced this in any of their official channels.

That looks cool, especially seeing him with his face!

I hope there's no shipping crap out of this.

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Guy looks so white. He looks like his name could be Steve for godsake.

I don't understand the picking a choosing of characters races based on VA's

Amir Talai is with an expression that seems to convey a feeling akin to "Someone please help me, I cannot stand these insane fans".

 

[LucasSomething]

Now that we're on the subject of Stella I must ask, who is Stella as a person?

I'm being serious here, because I can't really describe anything about Stella unless it's in some correlation to Stolas. She's not greedy as she doesn't care that Octavia would get all that Stolas had once he's dead. She's not self-absorbed as she doesn't fill the mansion with pictures of herself after Stolas gets kicked out. She not a snob as she doesn't particularly think herself as being better than others, unless it's negatively affecting Stolas. I can't even say she's a naturally angry person since, outside of that one picture of when she's a child, she only has ever been angry because of Stolas cheating on her.

If you took Stolas out of the picture completely, I can't say I could give any description on Stella's character besides her being apparently attractive. Because that's the only thing going on for her besides hating Stolas.

Who is Octavia as a person? Because i can't really describe anything about Octavia unless it's related to Stolas. The wikia says she's "cynical" but she still had hopes Stolas will spend time with her and he didn't so that's just true. I wouldn't call her "sarcastic" since i never seen her interact outside her own family drama as she doesn't have friends or a life outside stolas. She's not that egotistic or clingy like the haters say since she only ever Stolas to spend 1 day with her. I can't even say she's naturally sad person since she's only ever sad because of Stolas.

If you took Stolas out of the picture i couldn't give any description of Octavia besides she apparently dresses like some emo or goth. Because that's the only thing she has going on besides being sad about Stolas.

The real answer: That's a rethoric question because Stella is not a "person". Vivzie hates women and she only exists to victimize her twinks.

 

[Lyre]

Oh jeez yall this is the nicest response I've ever gotten to a piece of work I've done, thanks for the confidence, I'm gonna try drawing again tonight

 

[Re(Runner)48]

Oh jeez yall this is the nicest response I've ever gotten to a piece of work I've done, thanks for the confidence, I'm gonna try drawing again tonight

I'm about to join you too! Got off of work myself, can't wait to see what you come up with, man.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Amir Talai is with an expression that seems to convey a feeling akin to "Someone please help me, I cannot stand these insane fans".

I don't know how true this is. But take this with a grain of salt. But once the series aired. Fans began messing around with him saying he had no toes. And he decided to play along showing his covered feet. Which not bad. But still seen as encouraging.

Not only that. He defended children watching the show and praised a mother for letting her nine year old child watch it. I'm not a fan of Amir's behavior as he's mostly PR for Viv but isn't as bad as Joel's dickriding.

 

[Catboi]

The only thing resembling this idea is Zestial talking in a old form of English but other than that, everyone is on the same page in terms of knowledgment of the modern world. If this series was better written, you would have an scene establishing how fresh sinners are sought after not only because their naivety makes them perfect victims but also because they hold precious information about our current world and its tech advancements.

In other news, remember how many fans bitched that the February merch drop contained zero representation of the two main villains Adam and Lute? Well, cry no more because we finally have some!
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TWO(2) trading cards, that's it, don't forget to say thanks for all the hard work that went into making them shitlords, no stop asking about season 2 and stop leaking shit, thanks. Oh and by the way no, they didn't announced this in any of their official channels.

At least the new PNG used to promote the cards in the emiail is really good. I'll probably steal it and print it on something

Spoiler: Full Image

 

[Re(Runner)48]

Completed the redo I've been working on for a day or so.

Vaggie

Goddamn, what did Viv do to her? She has no consistent design/backstory/motifs/background. She's the tofu of the group so bland and nothing. She just turned her into a boring lesbian stereotype who hates men and fawns over Charlie. I don't care for her much, nothing for me to attach to.

Old design

Really skinny for a person whos suppose to be a warrior
Her race doesn't add to the story how can she be Salvadorian angel in heaven? Why is there race in heaven/different races of angels?
Muddy design
Another moth motif doesn't really make sense if she's an angel.
Her outfit doesn't fit a warrior she looks like a manager at McDonalds.
Same body type
The X is very confusing and doesn't make sense it also breaks the reveal of her being an angel.
The spear she has is stupid why did Lute let her keep it?
Bad colorscheme

New

Changed her body she's muscular and larger.
She has hyperpigmentation (only because when she was in heaven she was white and because she's becoming a demon she's changing color/will eventually become a full demon)
Changed color scheme
Her motif now is a toy soldier (it makes far more sense for her as a character and her occupations) her body is changing slowly now exposed ball joints on her limbs, mouth hinges, a crank,
Better hairstyle
Gave her an eyepatch (Charlie paints the closed eye for her)
Has a set of armor and the snake on her arm is a weapon. She can kick and throw them at enemies all while holding the chain, it bites and attacks enemies.
The spear isn't hers, but Lucifers.

Story wise

(Going back to Charlie's design)

Charlie helps take care of her while shes injured, hiding her in the castle. Vaggie now fallen feom heaven is already semi transformed into a demon. As she is in critical condition her body is adapting and more suseptible to hells environment. She heals relatively quick.

The longer she stays in hell the more she turns into a demon. It's very painful as her entire biology is changing, organs rearranging. Limbs changing and snapping/becoming new versions of her limbs and her blood is turning. She coughs out glowing golden blood, that's turning black in front of her. The thought and sins of hell slowly infests her mind, making her feel crazy.

Charlie takes care of her. Charlie being very lonely quickly attaches to her, having playdates and playing games with Vaggie as she recovers. Vaggie seeing that the Anticrist is not as evil as she believed is in debt to her.

Charlie is taken aback by her loyalty doesn't accept her commitment fully and states that her friendship is enough.

Vaggie agrees, but still states she will protect her like she did for her in her time of need.

In Lucifers castle there is sets of armor and battle equipment from his youth and even Lucifers angelic weapon (a prototype of the angelic spears). Vaggie takes one of his armors, and the spear in order to protect them.

Vaggie acts much like her bodyguard all while trying to blend in with the demons of hell. She is constantly on edge, which comes across as being grumpy and angry. She is extremely careful to never get hurt or cut as to reveal her blood. And hides when she coughs up the blood/ losing her mind.

She uses the hotel subtlety to attone for her sins and crimes. She herself wants redemption for all of the sinners she's killed as if the Antichrist could be "good" than maybe some of the sinners were.

As she watches sinners actually getting better in the hotel, she wonders why isn't she getting better.

This guilt grows and is slowly consuming her, and her mind changing it becomes her own prison. As she's becoming more demonic she begins to break her down.

Charlie comforts her and tries to do things with her to help, it gives Vaggie a sense of comfort and peace.

The demons in the hotel form a sense of comradery. Something Vaggie isn't use to because of her colder military life before. This is something new and she feels oddly afraid of it, yet wants to keep this feeling.

Eventually Lute and Adam during an extermination recognizes Vaggie in the battle. Seeing the pain hell is causing her, and that she's losing her grip on herself.

Seeing how close she is to Charlie they to tempt her to betray and kill Charlie. If she can do that they would forgive her, bring her back home and give her wings back. That if she goes back to heaven she'll change back and won't have to suffer.

She now has a choice to betray her found family for the family who abandoned her or stay in hell where she might become a full demon and lose herself.

As always

This one is a little harder for me as Vaggie is such a nothingburger. Also if anyone could suggest a rename for her I'd appreciate it. I can't think of one for her that fits her currently that isn't default "Vagina"

 

[Doctor of Autism]

At least the new PNG used to promote the cards in the emiail is really good. I'll probably steal it and print it on something
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Spoiler: Full Image

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I'm pretty sure @Kid Named Rocket will like this

 

[RavioliHabit]

Amir Talai is with an expression that seems to convey a feeling akin to "Someone please help me, I cannot stand these insane fans".

He loves the attention. He's a previously unknown actor (who hasn't been on Broadway, compared to the rest of the main cast) who's pushing 50 and suddenly has fangirls tweeting and posting about how much they love him and he eats it up. He's constantly engaging with them on social media, reposting fanart and comments and doing livestreams with fans and likes it when people comment "Omg the VAs are EXACTLY like their characters irl, Amir is literally Alastor!"

A month after Hazbin came out he posted a set of photos of himself that he captioned with the quote "It's a little funny, you could almost call me..." and of course the comments are filled with "DADDY-I mean Dad, I mean-"

And then once in a while he replies to unhinged Alastor posts with stuff like "Don't be weird you guys! You're all nincompoops, you're silly." It's so obvious he loves this shit, kek.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Vivzie thinks she is a foreshadowing master

 

[brownsuagrbubbletea]

Spoiler

Honestly this design doesn’t look that bad but he reminds me of this tiktok pretty boy of the month in a good way. I think it’s the clothing that throws me off, like I’m not gonna pretend I’m too informed about fashion during this era but it seems plain?

He loves the attention. He's a previously unknown actor (who hasn't been on Broadway, compared to the rest of the main cast) who's pushing 50 and suddenly has fangirls tweeting and posting about how much they love him and he eats it up. He's constantly engaging with them on social media, reposting fanart and comments and doing livestreams with fans and likes it when people comment "Omg the VAs are EXACTLY like their characters irl, Amir is literally Alastor!"

A month after Hazbin came out he posted a set of photos of himself that he captioned with the quote "It's a little funny, you could almost call me..." and of course the comments are filled with "DADDY-I mean Dad, I mean-"

And then once in a while he replies to unhinged Alastor thirstposts with stuff like "Don't be weird you guys! You're all nincompoops, you're silly." It's so obvious he loves this shit, kek.

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Amir is definitely gonna end up in some weird scandal where he ends up dating bpd they/he/pawself bitch and they accuse of some crime or whatever. It always happens!

Like yeah thirst comments aren’t new but god some of these va’s gotta have some boundaries bc it’s gonna bite them in the ass

 

[The tired cat]

Honestly this design doesn’t look that bad but he reminds me of this tiktok pretty boy of the month in a good way. I think it’s the clothing that throws me off, like I’m not gonna pretend I’m too informed about fashion during this era but it seems plain

The issue Id say here is, none of it really shows the serial killer/threat vibe. Heck, even when hes supposed to look messy after murdering someone, he seems way to clean. Its kinda how Pentious human form doesnt resemble anything of a recluse (or fact that long hair wouldnt fly in the 19th century)

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

He loves the attention. He's a previously unknown actor (who hasn't been on Broadway, compared to the rest of the main cast) who's pushing 50 and suddenly has fangirls tweeting and posting about how much they love him and he eats it up. He's constantly engaging with them on social media, reposting fanart and comments and doing livestreams with fans and likes it when people comment "Omg the VAs are EXACTLY like their characters irl, Amir is literally Alastor!"

A month after Hazbin came out he posted a set of photos of himself that he captioned with the quote "It's a little funny, you could almost call me..." and of course the comments are filled with "DADDY-I mean Dad, I mean-"

And then once in a while he replies to unhinged Alastor thirstposts with stuff like "Don't be weird you guys! You're all nincompoops, you're silly." It's so obvious he loves this shit, kek.

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Amir is definitely gonna end up in some weird scandal where he ends up dating bpd they/he/pawself bitch and they accuse of some crime or whatever. It always happens!

Or he ends up knowingly or unknowingly grooming a minor

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

He loves the attention. He's a previously unknown actor (who hasn't been on Broadway, compared to the rest of the main cast) who's pushing 50 and suddenly has fangirls tweeting and posting about how much they love him and he eats it up. He's constantly engaging with them on social media, reposting fanart and comments and doing livestreams with fans and likes it when people comment "Omg the VAs are EXACTLY like their characters irl, Amir is literally Alastor!"

A month after Hazbin came out he posted a set of photos of himself that he captioned with the quote "It's a little funny, you could almost call me..." and of course the comments are filled with "DADDY-I mean Dad, I mean-"

And then once in a while he replies to unhinged Alastor thirstposts with stuff like "Don't be weird you guys! You're all nincompoops, you're silly." It's so obvious he loves this shit, kek.

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Wow, this is pathetic more than creepy. Akin to "We were always art war with Eastasia!", only in Fangirls instead. This guy is out of the loop, and fangirls are close to masturbating to a middle aged man only because he voices a tumblr sexyman.

All my pity for him has been gone. I mean, I'm sure an actor or an actress (especially actresses in general!) love attention, yet this is like if someone went from zero to hero, or received a blank check. Of course fame will make them go crazy!

Amir is definitely gonna end up in some weird scandal where he ends up dating bpd they/he/pawself bitch and they accuse of some crime or whatever. It always happens!

Like yeah thirst comments aren’t new but god some of these va’s gotta have some boundaries bc it’s gonna bite them in the ass

Or he ends up knowingly or unknowingly grooming a minor

Both are very likely.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

This one is a little harder for me as Vaggie is such a nothingburger. Also if anyone could suggest a rename for her I'd appreciate it. I can't think of one for her that fits her currently that isn't default "Vagina"

Well back in the pilot days, Viv said that Vaggie's real name was Vagatha. Which is just having the letter "V" in front of the name Agatha. Though I feel like either Agatha or Vagatha fit better when she was a goth sinner that died in the 80s instead of an angel soldier.

Lucifer did accidentally call her Maggie in the show, so that's also another potential name you could use.