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Would you extend this to Spencer and his cronies "the American empire but based and Aryan which is why we must support Ukraine and did you know Gavin Newsom is EUGENIC AND ARYAN"
I feel like Spencer is largely irrelevant and frankly he’s in his own bizarre niche. I can’t think of a single prominent right-wing eceleb who falls into the Spencer camp, but maybe I’m just too tuned out. That said, I would not say he’s a deradicalization op because there’s no one to really funnel to him. He has a standard shitlib foreign policy thing going on as well, the only difference is that he pays lip service to white people instead of shitting on them.
 
I feel like Spencer is largely irrelevant and frankly he’s in his own bizarre niche. I can’t think of a single prominent right-wing eceleb who falls into the Spencer camp, but maybe I’m just too tuned out. That said, I would not say he’s a deradicalization op because there’s no one to really funnel to him. He has a standard shitlib foreign policy thing going on as well, the only difference is that he pays lip service to white people instead of shitting on them.
Spencerian comeback 2025. Bookmark this.
 
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So...my overall thoughts on the BAP sphere.

While there is much I find objectionable and repellant, adding to what has been noted above. I do think BAP presents a sexy vision.

He and more importantly Amarna twitter/the animejugend also are more honest about what the world they want really looks like-they aren't misreading Nietzsche, they are articulating what a world of sensuous warlords with zero pity or introspection running "the struggle of life" forever actually means.

The problem being Hellenic warbands raping Gaia a la the mythologized Indo-European immigration ad infinitum forever is neither possible nor desirable(for obvious reasons).

If you want to displace BAPism-you need something that also speaks to deep male yearnings for conquest, adventure, sexual gratification, and ego satisfaction.

If BAPism is an op, its a brilliant one because its selling something no one else on the market is.
 
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If you want to displace BAPism-you need something that also speaks to deep male yearnings for conquest, adventure, sexual gratification, and ego satisfaction.

If BAPism is an op, its a brilliant one because its selling something no one else on the market is.
The open desire of these faggots for rape and conquest makes people like me not care what happens to them.
It is an op designed to deradicalize me from being antiwar.
If a bunch of rapey overgrown boy scouts get chummed by the MIC, I'll be cozy and calm.
That's the op.
 
If BAPism is an op, its a brilliant one because its selling something no one else on the market is.
It’s a brilliant op because they may philosophically say all of these navel-gazing “retvrn to Männerbund” amorality things, which is “sexy” in the sense that no one else is really coming close to a sort of virile war cult thing and it does appeal to young men who feel dispossessed, in reality what materializes is this funnel back into center-right mainstream politics, embodied by their idolization of Trump 2.0 and embracing a perspective on the Administration which is entirely detached from reality and is operating entirely within “memes” and vibes and, yes, essays.

“Embrace the Aryan werewolf outlaw war band mentality and seize the Sabines” or whatever but it actually just manifests as “vote for the GOP because le funny Vance we’re going to fucking kill you meme.”
 
On the topic of deradicalization, here are some examples of BAP & co. punching right. Over the last couple days I've seen a lot of their followers make the strange claim that it's everyone else "punching right" by attacking BAPists. That's simply an inversion. This clique badmouths just about everyone to their right besides Jared Taylor and Martin Sellner.

The typical line of attack is that vanguard groups are bad optics / losing strategy / hurting the right. But if you were a hardcore racist nazi wouldn't you be sympathetic to groups trying to pull discourse farther right, despite their flaws?

1 - BAP mocks Patriot Front using a video leaked from some antifa group
2 - BAP mocks Greg Conte's speech at NJP event because the footage would make a great SPLC fundraiser. (In fact the NJP could have used more SPLC coverage as they struggled to get any attention at all.)

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Advice: Do not organize with like-minded people, it's a all fed trap. Just stay terminally online and vote harder. Let this bikini girl convince you.

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Martin complaining that Greg Johnson and Imperium Press are jealous of BAP's following (??? very odd statement). In fact Imperium Press discontinued one of their books after the author referenced BAP's dox.

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John McEntee's viral videos are making us look bad!
I'm pretty sure this tweet came after McEntee started criticizing Israel. Bonus assist from Patrick Casey.

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Martin says Marjorie Taylor Green is "better at this" than Auron MacIntyre, who he labels a third positionist for advocating RW use of state power I suppose

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They also loudly moaned about Darryl Cooper's appearance on Tucker. It's hard to tell if they were more jealous of the attention he got (dominating twitter for days) or if the WWII revisionism itself bothered them. But it's interesting that Martin's infamous Haiti tweet came a few days after Cooper's appearance on Tucker, completely changing the conversation.
 
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BAP will defend this by saying he doesn't want young men roped into being entrapped by the Feds and their lives ruined-which has happened. Its also suspicious that Fuentes wasn't arrested despite being there at J6.

I tend to wonder if there is no influencer in the DR that isn't either-a deradicalization op, or at least doesn't have some sort of informant arrangement with the Feds, or working to promote or undermine the Republican party as part of some or another op.

At the very least-anyone in DR circles should assume that their favorite influencer will call the police on them if they ever make serious threats if not worse.

There almost definitely is a lot of patronage/cock sucking to rise through the ranks-if you don't do this, you will never become prominent.

The whole scene is rotten.
 
...Patrick Casey... Martin says Marjorie Taylor Green is "better at this" than Auron MacIntyre, who he labels a third positionist for advocating RW use of state power I suppose
Interesting
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PC [Martin's bestie] put this on his alt.


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BAP will defend this by saying he doesn't want young men roped into being entrapped by the Feds and their lives ruined-which has happened
except what about that party numerous BAP-affiliated people attended right before inauguration 2 months ago? That basically disproves that whole "don't associate irl" and basically means BAP didn't want you associating with people that might talk you out of his cult.

in fact no one talks about that party that got major headlines and reports done on it by his friends in the journosphere as being some sort of glowie op despite the oversized news coverage being a big indicator of such. Let's fucking face it much like his stance on everything else, BAP only didn't want his people entrapped by feds until he had the proper infrastructure in place so they'd be entrapped by his feds.

plus he already is fine with discord and telegram groups and his own paypigs having a place to talk and the court doesn't really care if its done online or IRL when it comes to entrapment so might as well do your little meet ups. I'd say the real reason BAP doesn't want meet ups, is because he knows most of his followers don't look like the ideal Aryans that they're meant to be. One thing about those inauguration "hit pieces" is they really emphasize in every article acting like a coy teenage girl in a porno is how everyone seemed so attractive and hot and well maybe these nude bodybuilders might actually be right if a silly liberal journalist is catching feelings for them and their ideology. And its insane how obvious it is, just like every other "hit piece" done on BAP by a fellow jew that is actually just hyping him up and focusing on what he wants you to focus on instead of the man behind the curtain. You can tell when one really fucks with BAP like the photo of him in brazil or the richard haniana tweets or the photo of his followers i'll repost below because the minions swarm and attack and try to convince people that what they're seeing is complete bullshit. In the intial dox you had followers use the fact that REN said he was blond haired and blue eyed as proof that the ugly dude with bad hair and brown eyes wasn't him, despite most knowing what he really looked like.

You have to remember, the politics are actually secondary to the "friend simulator" and it really is like a PUA's followers, they don't care about practicing what is preached as long as they're part of the club. "Sure BAP said X in 2024, but now he says Y in 2025 and you don't want to be the fag that hasn't updated his firmware do you?"

Especially on a long enough timeline you'll see him go back on pretty much everything. look at how they treated israel, as far as i'm concerned the main reason he doesn't want irl meet ups is because it hurts the cause, if a bunch of twinks wanted to meet up or the guys behind those magazines pariah the doll is always in want to meet up he's fine with it, but the usual uggos and autistics gullible enough to believe his bullshit he'll say no to because it hurts the cause. If you notice he didn't say shit about REN doing a segment with Tucker a couple years back or Sol

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I don't deny there are suspicious things integral to BAP world, my point was that his warning has merit in a vacuum.

In principle though, if you are involved in radical RW politics, you are probably going to interact with Feds, and their various para agency associates and contractors in some form or another. That's just the nature of the beast when it comes to organizing or supporting groups that aim to overthrow the current political order.

Of course, that doesn't mean there aren't a hundred traps laid and plenty of eager foolish young men who ended up behind bars or penniless outcasts because they trusted the wrong person.

But then again-nothing is easy.
 
Okay but what does that look like in practice? Let’s say every DR influencer operation magically vanished. So young men start wearing swastikas? Do they refuse to join the military? Work at all?

More likely than not-they’d play vidya, watch porn and die. Even if they all loved Hitler and directly attributed everything wrong to the Jews with no equivocation, then what?

People talk about deradicalization all the time-yet can never explain how A leads to C.
I think, respectfully, this post misses the origins of this DR operation. These people's influence isn't astroturfed from nothing, they're filling the void left by the original Alt Right after they were all turbo vanned in 2017 post Charlottesville. IMO that rally shook the elites in the fact that there existed a coalition that could put 1000 men on the ground for the explicit purpose of yelling shit like "jews will not replace us," and all indicators were that it wasn't going away and was slowly growing. It had to be dealt with, so after the AR was pruned out people like BAP stepped in to fill the void. Now if the BAPtardisphere and to a lesser extent the fuentards (I don't think fuentes is a fed per se, but given a lot of free range b/c he's legit just a retard and as such hurts ppl around him) disappeared tomorrow would people be more radical? I don't know, but I can tell you that absent the switch from the OG AR to the modern BAPtards the American RW would be loads more radical, given its tragectory 8 years ago.
Question, would you say that Nietzsche/Nietzscheanism itself as discussed in the DR is a de radicalization op?
Allow me to rephrase this. Does promoting a form of amoral nihilism help in subverting people's closely held ideals and make them vulnerable to persuasion of things that make no coherent sense? Absolutely. Based "vitalism" is the cover for every retarded and incoherent baptard thing.
Would you extend this to Spencer and his cronies "the American empire but based and Aryan which is why we must support Ukraine and did you know Gavin Newsom is EUGENIC AND ARYAN"
This is not the spencer thread but on an optics standpoint Gavin Newsome has more white descendants than JD Vance and DJT combined, so his take is understandable.
It’s a brilliant op because they may philosophically say all of these navel-gazing “retvrn to Männerbund” amorality things, which is “sexy” in the sense that no one else is really coming close to a sort of virile war cult thing and it does appeal to young men who feel dispossessed, in reality what materializes is this funnel back into center-right mainstream politics, embodied by their idolization of Trump 2.0 and embracing a perspective on the Administration which is entirely detached from reality and is operating entirely within “memes” and vibes and, yes, essays.

“Embrace the Aryan werewolf outlaw war band mentality and seize the Sabines” or whatever but it actually just manifests as “vote for the GOP because le funny Vance we’re going to fucking kill you meme.”
Yeah that's the funny thing, its vibes and fumes. The vision is extant, but in practice it means whoring yourself out to gay GOPe adjacent dudes for xitter clout and maybe going to the sucknfuck.
Learn to thumbnail ur shit, but also I love this image, it really wraps up the essence of the "BAPsphere," schlubby college republican hipsters (one with his asian likely gf) posing as super cool hip trendy vitalist warriors by meeting up at a shitlib coded craft burger joint, awkwardly cropping out the brown member of their group (the the hand on the bottom right...).
 
Learn to thumbnail ur shit, but also I love this image
when i thumbnailed this and the REN photo people didn't look at it, there's a reason the non-thumbnail version of the REN photo is highlighted. also some backstory, apparently is from a meet up in VTech where Curtis Yavin was doing a talk, beyond that BAP went full damage control like you're seeing with that one guy's dox recently, straight up calling it a false flag and that they're bad actors and they deliberately found the ugliest people to pose with the book. it was goddamn hilarious
 
So there was a lot of drama over Hanania saying he was relieved his drug addict brother died when Martin tried to bait him over it.

A lot of people clutched their pearls, others performatively made fun of them for doing so.


I agree with this view. For Hanania to so casually trash and throw out his own family simply for an internet dunk is probably the most shameless thing he’s ever done.

There used to be a concept of saving face and maintaining one’s dignity in public. Private shameful affairs would be not commented on-even if directly asked or even baited, the Anglo American response would be disciplined silence.

The fact that is gone gives me so no small amount of grief.
 
[...] For Hanania to so casually trash and throw out his own family simply for an internet dunk is probably the most shameless thing he’s ever done.

There used to be a concept of saving face and maintaining one’s dignity in public. Private shameful affairs would be not commented on-even if directly asked or even baited, the Anglo American response would be disciplined silence.

The fact that is gone gives me so no small amount of grief.
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So there was a lot of drama over Hanania saying he was relieved his drug addict brother died when Martin tried to bait him over it.
For context
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What a passive aggressive bitch lol
I agree with this view. For Hanania to so casually trash and throw out his own family simply for an internet dunk is probably the most shameless thing he’s ever done.
Why Hanania feel obliged to sweep after a junkie sibling that killed animals?
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The fact that Captivedreamer and his posse of closeted pedophile homosexuals
are trying to pearl clutch about Hanania not wanting to defend this is retarded.
There used to be a concept of saving face and maintaining one’s dignity in public. Private shameful affairs would be not commented on-even if directly asked or even baited, the Anglo American response would be disciplined silence.
If that's the case, captivedreamer would also be performing Anglo-American silence instead of chimping out at a some random
twitter account exposing him for being a gross pedophile even though he wrote all those pedo tweets out of his own volition.
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Captivedreamer's response of bringing in someone else's family is a complete wigger move and something you'd expected Ethanol Ralph to do
it, not somebody that prides himself as being morally, culturally and intellectually superior.
:diddler: "OH YEAH BISH? I MAY BE A JEWISH PEDOPHILE THAT LOVES FUCKING AROUND AND HATES FINDING OUT, BUT
AT LEAST I DON HAVE A JUNKIE BROTHA, BISH!"

:diddler:"WAS DAT BISH?? YOU DON'T WANNA DEFEND YOUR JUNKIE DOG ABUSIN' BROTHA?? YOU'RE SUCH A
WEAK BISH WITH NO SHAME!"
 
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Peter Thiel sincerely unites half the forum alone. Nearly every single political figure (and other figure) on this whole entire site is barely 2 photo-ops from him. Everyone from the Rationalist, the Race Realists, the BAPists, Fuentes, gays, trannies. He's like the Judge in Blood Meridian at this point, ever-omnipresent in all evil.
Thiel puts to rest the concept of BASTE faggots. Every person of alphabet is mentally defective.
It is very, very important that whites do not get a racial consciousness and try to work for their own interests because it means a lot of special interest groups will start losing because the grift is up. It's also very, very important that marxist infested libfeminism that allows so much modern rot isn't pushed back against in any real way either since again it allows for special interest grifting. If droves of young men, specifically young white men, said they didn't want to play with you anymore and actually meant it, it would spell disaster for the accrued power of a lot of people.
Yep, the ultimate goal is to make sure globohomo neoliberalism keeps advancing. A yuge and bigly factor is that the powers that be are dismayed that working class whites no longer want to die for BlackRock and Israel. The reason why Trump got “sanewashed” in 2024 is because the powers that be, including faggots like Thiel, realized they needed whites just a little bit longer than planned, which is why they’re wanting to cram the country full of Jeets. The BAP sphere is all about ensuring gay ops continue to further deradicalize.

It is amusing that these losers have all been exposed as Jews and faggots with their own family members denouncing them, which is still shameful in and of itself.
 
Martin was denounced for being a racist though, not because he was part of some op.

I don’t think any liberal makes distinctions between “organic right wing operator” and “deradicalization op”.

As for the Hanania thing, it’s one thing to feel that way privately, it’s entirely different to say so in public, I do concede he was baited into it though.
 
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