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Should be a wild four years.

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My point is that it’s reasonable to believe that a conspiracy was involved, not that you need to accept there was one. That means when someone says something like ‘they tried to kill Trump’, an intellectually honest person would give them the benefit of the doubt that multiple people could have been involved in Trump’s assassination attempts. To argue that there was in fact no conspiracy as a matter of fact is an argument in bad faith. Someone who argues in bad faith is being an idiot, thus the trash can I gave you.
Not saying there wasn’t. Just saying there is this so far no evidence to support that claim.
 
Not saying there wasn’t. Just saying there is this so far no evidence to support that claim.
Yes, there is. It is, as you just said, a claim. You have been given evidence to support why people entertain said claim. You are acting as though people are arguing in-fact and can prove it, which they are not.

On the other hand, your supporting arguments against this claim have so far been "nuh uh".
 
A great story out of the DC rag of repute, The Hill: "Court finds Greenpeace liable in case over Dakota Access Pipeline" (archive).
A court in North Dakota has found Greenpeace liable for hundreds of millions of dollars over actions to combat the Dakota Access Pipeline.

The environmental organization will be liable for about $660 million per the verdict readout in court, Greenpeace USA interim Executive Director Sushma Raman said in a statement shared through a spokesperson.

That amount could put Greenpeace at risk of bankruptcy. The group vowed to fight the verdict.

“This is the end of a chapter, but not the end of our fight,” Raman said. “Energy Transfer knows we don’t have $660 million. They want our silence, not our money.”

Energy Transfer, the company behind the pipeline that had accused Greenpeace of defamation and trespass, among other activities, celebrated the decision.

“While we are pleased that Greenpeace has been held accountable for their actions against us, this win is really for the people of Mandan and throughout North Dakota who had to live through the daily harassment and disruptions caused by the protesters who were funded and trained by Greenpeace,” the company said.

“It is also a win for all law-abiding Americans who understand the difference between the right to free speech and breaking the law. That the disrupters have been held responsible is a win for all of us,” the company’s statement continued.

Greenpeace has argued that it only played a small role in the protests, which drew massive crowds that were opposed to the project.

The group has argued that the case was a Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation suit and an attempt to silence critics.

“This is a freedom of speech issue. This is a First Amendment case,” Greenpeace spokesperson Madison Carter said in an interview ahead of the verdict.

She expressed concern that a verdict against Greenpeace would “have a chilling effect for any organization that is interested in advocacy.”
Greenpace is a bunch of LARPers at worst and eco-terrorists at best.
 
Why does this make politicians "inherently more electable"?
Because Americans tend to support Israel, they will vote for the politician that supports Israel.

Especially to the point where virtually every politician of note has an AIPAC handler.
Massie was being disengenious when he said that. The "AIPAC handler" is a volunteer who lives inside the district of the politician and talks to the politician about AIPACs concerns.

To contrast, the Iranian governments lobby in the US is the National Iranian American Council. They are also not registered with FARA but recently put out an announcement telling any Iranians who want to visit the US to private their social media so that immigrantion enforcement cannot use it to bar anti American people from entering
 
What if we get Iran and Pakistan to invade Israel but we fill Israel with nuke, s so the second that the enter Israel we detonate all the nukes, getting rid of Israel, Iran and the entire middle east in one move.
Isn't that just Operation Samson? Israel is already primed and ready to light the middle east up in nuclear hellfire.
 
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Yes, there is. It is, as you just said, a claim. You have been given evidence to support why people entertain said claim. You are acting as though people are arguing in-fact and can prove it, which they are not.

On the other hand, your supporting arguments against this claim have so far been "nuh uh".
Go find the evidence or at least something more solid that would support what you’re suggesting. Idiot secret service members not securing a roof or whatever might raise a brow. But if that is something to go on, then why hasn’t Trump assigned someone to investigate it and bring those responsible for this collusion to commit murder to Justice.

Knowing Trump he probably has but the FBI is probably going 🤷‍♂️
 
"Including as part of a prospective book he began writing about his career as an FBI agent."
These faggots are always writing books to launder money imo. I wonder how viable that strategy will be with USAID going up in smoke.
 
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absolutely not the case. Anyone who says such things is extremely ignorant of Israeli/US relations. This whole gaza situation is because Bush forced israel into withdrawing from gaza and having the palestinians hold elections.
And before Bush there was that whole situation with U.N Resolution 194.

On November 21st 1963 the New York Times reported “Israel Dissents as U.N. Group Backs U.S. on Arab Refugees.” It begins, “A United States resolution calling for continued efforts to resolve the predicament of the Palestinian Arab refugees was approved tonight 83 to 1… Israel cast a single negative vote….The issue centers on a 1948 resolution whose key section, paragraph 11, concerns the future of the Arabs who were displaced from their homes by the Palestine conflict. They have been living in the lands bordering Israel …. The revised United States text calls on the Palestine Conciliation Commission to ‘continue its efforts for the implementation of Paragraph 11'”.

They were so pissed off there was even a second article in the same paper “U.S. Stand Angers Israel.” It reports from Jerusalem that “Premier Levi Eshkol expressed extreme distaste today for the United States’ position in the Palestine refugee debate…. Israel’s anger was conveyed ‘in the strongest terms’ to the U.S. Ambassador …. The Israeli government is upset about the American resolution before the U.N. Political Committee and by American maneuvers over the issue.”

But, that was overshadowed by a bigger news story the next day, when JFK was assassinated.
 
Go find the evidence
Several pages of people giving you reasons why they believe it to be a conspiracy to murder Trump
"Okay but nobody's given me any reasons for why they think that"
Gets told he was just given several pages of reasons for why people think that
"Okay but show them to me"

I usually don't feel the need to point things like this out since it doesn't serve to further the conversation in an interesting way, but you are, genuinely (and I mean this from the bottom of my heart), being a dumb nigger right now. No, I am not going to go back and requote each and every post you just spent going "nuh uh that doesn't count" to. This is a judgement I didn't even reserve for Holywood Hulk when I disagreed with him.
 
One of my great joys was watching her cry and eat ice cream while whining on TikTok about Kamala losing the election knowing that she's trying her best to coast off of her father's status and power in order to make herself more relevant than she actually is. Once Timmy is done being a governor, her time is up and she'll be a nobody like the rest of the normie girls that she despises. She NEEDED him to become VP so she can increase her status and clout and I'm tickled she was denied that joy.
 
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