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This thread is for discussion of the new details revealed in the DM leaks by DSP on March 19, 2025 and the subsequent Kino Casino leaks on March 21, 2025. - Pepper Jack
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In what can only be described as a dente finale to the Kino Casino arc, today's "don't-miss" episode of the Level 1 Podcast saw one of the biggest meltdowns in Phil's 17 year beggacy. From changing the stream title to "The Level 666 PODCAST: DSP ROBS THE KINO CASINO!", to declaring the whole Kino arc a giant ruse, there were levels of mental illness unforseen in the Snortex. Rich of ReviewTechUSA was brought on as the special guest for this "feltening", but instead of shitting on Andy and PPP as expected, he became a voice of reason and got booted early on.


Beginning in the middle of 2024, Phil started a crossover arc with the Kino Casino, an internet drama show hosted by Andy Warski and PPP.
To make a (very) long story short, Phil went on their show a few times, did a co-op stream, and eventually rebooted Smark Guys with PPP. Thanks to the Casino juicing him up, he got a whole new audience and group of paypigs. He adopted a King moniker and the subsequent 92-stream streak would be known as the "King's Streak". Phil would collectively call this his "resurgence", and bought a bunch of crap to "modernize" his setup.
Fast forward to January, and Phil reboots Smark Guys with PPP. On the March 13th episode of Smark guys, PPP makes a joke about Khat and later on Kino Casino, cracks another joke. After getting $40 to address it on TL1P, Phil issues an ultimatum, PPP rejects it, and everything goes tits up.

For more info, see the KC thread.

What makes this meltdown even more interesting is that it wasn't just limited to the DSP Cinematic Universe. Ethan Ralph of all people tried to worm his way into the drama, as did Warski's lover-turned-alog Kyler. Notable people in the Comics and Anime circles have even weighed in.


The March 19 Leaks​

One of the direct consequences of this spergfest was that Phil supposedly leaked all of the DMs between him, Andy, and PPP. On TL666P, Phil read selected highlights (mostly regarding It'sAGundam, who was scheduled to be on KC Friday) For convenience, the leaks are linked below and also attached to this post. Virustotal says they are clean (PPP/Warski), thanks to @myone for checking.

DMs with Triple P (I call him my ex) | mirror
DMs with Andy the former gaming soulmate | mirror

Also check out these resources:
Mostly comprehensive (and dramatic) reading of the leaks by ALT on WPIG
KC Leaks Search Engine on SnortExchange

Here are some curated highlights:
On TL666P Phil admitted to twisting his wife having a cold to being on the death bed
"Detractors" were mentioned 170 times in the leaks
@neger psykolog traumatized Phil
Phil possibly lied about Khat having cancer
Phil knows that whales donate under socks
Phil called PPP "Triple P" in DMs
Phil told PPP he was sad for having to ban Derich
The first thing Phil did when getting a VPN was look at ads in other countries
Phil has a dead rabbit
Phil thanked PPP for allowing them to see a doctor at a time of need


Though Phil says he's washing his hands of the matter with this (again), it's not over: shortly after the main stream, Andy and PPP released their promo for that night's Kino Casino, where they teased more leaks on Friday the 21st.

The March 21 "Leaks"​

Unlike Phil, the Casino kept their promise and had a Fuck Phil Festival of sorts with relatively famous detractor It'sAGundam. Although they didn't release anything as anticipated, they went over the DMs and gave context to it (in addition to the usual shitting on Phil).
As if Phil didn't shoot himself in the foot badly enough, he ragequit his Kick stream (then came back like a pussy) as Kino Casino was having record viewership.

Odysee Mirror

Highlights:
The Smark Guys auditionees are Ralph, Mersh, and Beardson Beardly (all of whom have threads)
Phil may or may not get the Hassle Doctrine
Two mods were banned for ditching Phil for KC
KC's editor was burned out from dealing with Phil's slop
DSP made KC a bannable offense on Kick


Abridged Table of Contents (PPP files)
I went through the document and made an index of sorts. Hopefully it's helpful for people who want to jump to a specific section.
1 Introductions
2 Collab Proposal (RTU React)
4 Detractors
6 RTU React
6 Collab Proposal (Chained Together)
.......7,10-12 Mutahar
8 Joon Pre-Cope
10 Collab Proposal (Detractor expose ft. Doody, Memology, Kevin)
10 Drama (Lolcow Live)
12 Self Promotion
14 Detractors
14 Chained Together Collab Planning
17 Collab Proposal/Planning (Interview w/ @Null)
........20,24 Drama (Keem)
.........22 Null Co-Op backtrack
23 Chained Together and Interview Finalization
25 Money Talk
26 Keem/Doody Debate
27 Interview Aftermath/Derich
28 Doody
28 WWEC
29 Joon Doc 1st Impressions
30 Craig Interview Pep Talk
31 PPP Discord Allegations
32 Joon Interview Pep Talk
33 Content Proposal (Kinoween)
34 Calf Meme/Cope
.............34 WWEC
35 (KC) Detractors
35 Kinoween Planning
.........36 Divoom
37 Rackets Segment Confrontation
39 Collab Proposal (It'sAGundam Interview)
.........41 Glazing/Coping
43 Collab Proposal (Horror Co-Op)
45 Gundam
45 WWEC & Tech Issues
46 Kinoween Planning
46 RTU and Boogie Interview Pep Talks
47 Self promotion
49 RTU
49 Kick Streaming Plans & Smark Guys Revival Proposal
53 Wrestling / Smark Guys
53 Crabby Patty Scam
54 Kinoween Planning
57 Collab Proposal (Zombies Co-Op)
57 Kinoween Aftermath
58 Collab Proposal (RTU Bombshell)
59 Drama (Lolcow Live)
......59 Kick Verificaton Spergout
60 Zombies Co-Op Planning
.....61 Mini Health Scare (Khat)
62 Election Collab Proposal
63 DSPolitics
64 Wrestling / Smark Guys
65 Metokur Interview (Fell Through)
68 Humiliation Beg
69 Collab Proposal (DSP Roast) & Detractors
70 Wrestling / Smark Guys
70 Future of DSPGaming
72 Wrestling / Smark Guys
72 Frank Hassle
73 Wrestling / Smark Guys Planning
........80 Steve Interview Proposal
81 Wrestling / Smark Guys, Paywalled Content
........83 Shoutout Argentina
........84 Restream Cope, Copyright Claims
85 Collab Proposal (Detractor Witch Hunt)
86 Smark Guys Sim Match Idea
........89 TJ Gamebox
........91-92 Restream Cope
93 Florida IRL Meetup Proposal
94 Wrestling / Smark Guys
......96 Socks
97 Taxes
99 Detractors
102 Wrestling / Smark Guys
.....106 Mini Health issue (PPP)
109 Grill Phil Aftermath & More Wrestling / Smark Guys
110 Cambian Proposal II (Polygraph)
112 Wrestling / Smark Guys
113 Phil's Happiness
114 Smark Guys & Payment
117 Cambian Aftermath
130 RTU
130 Cambian Aftermath II / Mini Meltdown
132 Makeup (GAY)
133 Smark Guys/Wrestling
134 Stake/Gambling Discussion
137 Smark Guys/Wrestling
139 Parents' Health Scare (the "dark stuff" @neger psykolog and PPP talked about)
139 Drama / Keemstar
140 Smark Guys / Wrestling
141 Tech Issues (RTU mention)
143 Health Scare (Rabbit)
........144 Smark Guys
145 Health Scare (Khat)
146 FNAF Recap
........146 Whales and Support (Mike Dutch, ICS et al)
146 Rip Rabbit
147 Responding to the Khat Jokes
149 It all ends

Chronological ToC:
1...............July '24
4...............August '24
29.............September '24
35.............October '24 (BIG meltdown on Oct 1)
62.............November '24
65.............December '24
73.............January '25
110..........February '25
140..........March '25
 

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The one thing I truly want, is PPP said that Phil called a pizza a "Snack Pizza." Then laughed for even at his 400+ pounds, even he doesn't call a pizza a snack. It's funny enough, but I want it in black and white from Phil. Hit us with the Snack Pizza Phil.

Also @Null, can we get a feature, DM leaks are always hot, and it's relevant to Kino Casino as well as DSP.
 
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I love that the whole Kino arc starts with Phil giving PPP a 3am gin DM

This is just very sad, this confirms he used to watch KC next to Kat sleeping...
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To be fair the whole DM leak mostly depicts a sad picture of Phil, he's living in a hell of his own making and doesn't even seem to notice it outside complaining about things he did to himself.

Multiple times PPP tries to open his eyes on the schedule autism and how Phil should focus on something he enjoys doing only to be met with a prestream but in written form.
 
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well please do not share this info. yesterday I spoke with my parents and my Mom is on her last legs health-wise, with doctors giving her less than a year to live. She basically begged me to find time to travel back to Connecticut by the end of the year so we could spend time together one last time
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Imagine talking like that about your mom and trying to sell as "I'm lying to snake him"
 
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The GOUT-HATERS Handbook said:
The whole Florida Trip PPP was talking about (cut for readability):
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Jesus, look at those timestamps and message lengths.


Edit: According to Phil, he did it because PPP is lonely. Lol, lmao even
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So, I know it's a very small detail in the grand scheme of things, but I just wanted to highlight how alien Phil's response was because it keeps making me laugh. Like...PPP is asking Phil to come down and hang out. Imagine if a friend asked you that and how you'd respond, and then Phil says the month/year of his last trip to "the East Coast of the USA"
 
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Cyber Bowling said:
.PPP is asking Phil to come down and hang out. Imagine if a friend asked you that and how you'd respond, and then Phil says the month/year of his last trip to "the East Coast of the USA"
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Autism theory as good as confirmed for me with these DMs plus DSP's developer commentary on how he interprets KC's messages even after (!) learning that PPP has been trying to tard-wrangle him.
 
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I skimmed through the PPP leaks and...it's kinda a nothingburger. Maybe I just got my hopes up too much from the way PPP was hyping it up, and there's the possibility he has his own messages from Discord or something. It's honestly more or less what you'd expect from Phil, a prestream in text format. While I don't think there were a lot of juicy details revealed, it is still interesting to see an unfiltered version of Phil...even if it's not that much different from the Phil we normally see, and it's more or less exactly what you'd expect.

Arguably one of the most interesting things about it is it confirms that Phil really has no idea how to hold down a friendship. I actually think Phil fully believed they were friends, and to give him the faintest of credit, he does thank KC multiple times and it feels sincere. But there's no substance beyond that because there's really no substance to Phil. I think the closest they come to having what I'd consider a normal, friendly conversation is when they're talking about wrestling. Which as someone who has minimal wrestling knowledge, was pretty boring and I mostly scrolled past it looking for anything else worth commenting on.

I didn't include screenshots because, like Phil's prestreams, it's very bloated with just a few sprinklings of interesting (to us) stuff. I think the biggest disappointment is the pet/wife stuff PPP was hyping up is like, less than 1% of their conversations and it's just as vague as you'd expect from Phil.

Khet is Republican

Phil says he hasn't been to the doctor since 2015 because of how expensive it is. He mentions him and Khet have insurance, but didn't go into much detail beyond that from what I can tell.

I'll take the L and say I think Phil legit stopped watching wrestling because he needed PPP to handhold him through where he could watch it. He mentioned not having watched since 2020 at one point

Phil thinks he used to have a lot of clout back in the day and is upset he isn't respected in the present because he's knowledgeable about so many things. I'm guessing this is why he tried to pivot into interviews, but I (and likely Phil) have no idea what knowledge he was hoping to drop.

The Steve interview is basically what broke up PPP and Phil. Phil was very passive aggressive about it and clearly felt betrayed. PPP kinda sorta smoothed it over to mixed results...I think deep down Phil knew it was a lie, but kept trying to convince himself they were pals and it seems to shift between him apologizing for not trusting PPP to being passive aggressive

This is a bit of inferring on my part, but Phil mentions Khet overheard him talking during the Steve interview, then went to look it up herself. It's not exactly a smoking gun, but IMO it suggests she doesn't normally watch his content

Phil claims he can't go full heel because of Khet becoming religious again, so he doesn't want to be a bad guy. He says this pretty early on in their conversations while, funnily enough, admitting that Khet does have health issues, but then specifying that they aren't serious or life threatening and plays it off as not being a big deal. Also around that same time, he says the doctors have no idea what the issues are.

To the surprise of nobody, they talk about money. A lot. Nothing particularly juicy, but it's pretty clear how much Phil obsesses over it.

I think Phil talks more about detractors than money, but it's just the usual prestream shenanigans and not particularly interesting.

Regarding the pet stuff, Phil says he couldn't fly out to Florida because he didn't want to leave Khet alone with his pets. PPP never clarified that it was an invite for both him and Khet like he originally tried to claim. Phil does say "pets" and not just pet, suggesting there's something else in the snort fort, but doesn't specify what until like a few days ago when, all of a sudden, there's rabbit talk. Screams fake to me, especially since it happened after the Steve stuff.

Same deal with Phil's mom. It reads almost exactly like the last time Phil claimed his parents were dying when they were completley fine. He says she's on her last legs and that the doctor says she has a year or less left, but doesn't actually say what's wrong with her. Also of note, Phil starts that message with "please do not share this info." which makes me wonder if Phil was trying to do some sort of test because he was so paranoid about them setting him up for failure with the Steve interview. In that same message he also mentions his pets again out of the blue. Says there are 4 of them, but no specific mentions beyond that.

Slight tangent on that, but Phil also mentions his mom was begging him to visit. Kinda makes me wonder if there's a world where she's the one exaggerating her health to try and guilt Phil into making the trip out. Phil had to pick that behavior up from somewhere, and Linda makes perfect sense.

Phil had a stupid ghostbuster skit he was briefly obsessed with when they first started talking. It had...something to do with Ethan Ralph and them being Guntbusters. He even bought an unspecified prop for it. I only vaguely read through it because it felt kinda nonsensical, but I thought it was funny how hard DSP was pushing it in the beginning. I feel like PPP cared about as much as I did.

Phil proposed a few other skit-esque things, but they were all pretty vague and on the level of "what if we spun around and did DX chops" level of creativity. I think it largely boiled down to "what if person X roasts person Y, then person Y appears and roasts person X". It was really that uncreative, and Phil rarely actually had specifics to what they'd actually be roasting each other for. Phil was also really into them roasting him early on. If I had to guess, it was him being desperate to fit in and basically being that kid in highschool who offered to eat dirt or bugs or whatever so the kids would laugh at him and he'd pretend like he was in on the joke. It did make me wonder if it's also a weird Phil tick where he's fishing for reassurance they like him. Like, he was hoping they'd say something like "Oh no, we could never roast you Phil, you're too cool for that." But I'd say it's probably like, 80% desperation, 20% fishing for validation.
 
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At risk of making people around here MATI... I will note that perhaps the most illuminating part of the leaks for me, assuming that they be taken at face value, is they seem to paint a picture of Phil and Kat's marriage that is a lot less "loveless roomates"/"marriage of convenience" than most people around here had assumed or hoped. Which is good for Phil because -- as Cyber Bowling notes above -- if these DMs are anything to go by, Phil's going to be unable to hold down a relationship with anyone else.
 
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DarksydePhil's Tits 2 said:
Found this nugget on the last page of Andy's DMs, and I feel it sums up Phil's attempt to make and keep friends pretty well:

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"scamming my detractors"... I hate to break this to you DSP, but your detractors (for the most part) don't give you any money so its kind of pretty difficult to scam them.

Your "fans" (i.e. your actual customers) on the other hand do give you money and you scam them every day.
 
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Anyone calling this a nothingburger missed the point that it wasn't the content of the leaks that was the revelation. It was that Phil claimed to be conning PPP for the past 8 months, including lying about his mom being near death, Kat being near death, and his rabbit literally dying (so he didn't have to do Smark Guys!). But it's Phil, maybe he was lying about lying?

So he either lied about family members having cancer to manipulate PPP, or he lied to all the viewers today and was really getting played the whole time. Either way, a new low for Phil.
 
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So he either lied about family members having cancer to manipulate PPP, or he lied to all the viewers today and was really getting played the whole time. Either way, a new low for Phil.
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The sad thing is (well, hilarious from our point of view) is...I don't actually this is a new low for DSP. Hell, in some cases, it's actually a lesser repeat of awful things we've already seen Phil do. Like, with the CT trip to the East Coast of the US in April, 2019, Phil lied and implied both his parents were about to die and this would be his last chance to see them again. This time, he only made it sound like Linda was about to die and this would be his last chance to see her again.

Obviously, it's still awful behavior from Phil, there's no question about that. But it just goes to show how bad of a person Phil really is when we can't even say that lying about dying family members is a new low for him.
 
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  • Kat follows what's going on and watches videos of him. Kat watched the Truthseekers interview. She must know PPP making fun of her.
  • Phil is scared shitless of Kat.
  • Kat yells at him when he does something stupid, must be all the time then.
  • Phil hates his marriage.
He doesn't understand how bad the DMs make him look like.
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The GOUT-HATERS Handbook said:
Aftermath of the Cambian interview
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Fernando Manzano. 100% a sock with a name from a name generator.
 
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