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It's putting metal in a tree in a way that someone using a chainsaw would have the saw recoil and strike their neck and kill them. Modern chainsaws have safeties that help but still
Ha I know what tree-spiking is I meant whatever "eco-terrorism" is since other sources say terrorism laws don't apply to "eco-terrorism." Just more word games.
 
I'm just waiting for us to get our first instance of a Tesla being attacked with an armed driver in it, and the ensuing terrorist death. It only takes one retard to decide to start attacking occupied vehicles because empty ones 'aren't getting the message across', and its going to turn into another Rittenhouse level case.

I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but without the USAID orgs to seemingly organize the rabble, the rabbles self escalating, online rhetoric is no longer being filtered out from real life action.
It'll be the court case that decides it.

THAT was what REALLY infuriates the Left.

Not that Rittenhouse shot 3 guys at random and hit a wife beater, a child molester, and a rapist.

No, it's that, in their minds, he got away with it in court. Not that he was innocent, but he somehow magically got away with it.

It won't be shooting one of the foot soldiers in the face that will change shit.

It will be if the trial lets the guy off or not.

If he gets Murder One and a life sentence, the Left KNOWS they now have a clear cut mandate to start firebombing Teslas with families inside because the Right hesitates.

If he gets off, the Left turns into screeching monkeys because now they know that drivers will just fucking shoot the Molly wielding faggot.
 
I'm just waiting for us to get our first instance of a Tesla being attacked with an armed driver in it, and the ensuing terrorist death. It only takes one retard to decide to start attacking occupied vehicles because empty ones 'aren't getting the message across', and its going to turn into another Rittenhouse level case.

I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but without the USAID orgs to seemingly organize the rabble, the rabbles self escalating, online rhetoric is no longer being filtered out from real life action.
Yes, we saw this with all kinds of shit with the culture war. The rabble doesn't understand WHY tactics work, they just know if they do X then they win, so X is an I Win Button for the culture war, right? Well, not always. It's a particularly annoying problem for the left especially since they have increasingly become reliant on Shaniquas to do their grunt work.

I can't imagine how they're going to thread the needle of trying to get some Days of Rage shit going with Zoomer chicks (fucking retarded) and Zoomer Shaniquas (even worse). All while an admin is openly hostile to them AND eagerly awaiting the chance to pin this shit on non-useful idiot leftists and start ripping shit out at the seams.
 
Eco-terrorists deserve the rope plastic six-pack ring.
Fixed that for you.

Ha I know what tree-spiking is I meant whatever "eco-terrorism" is since other sources say terrorism laws don't apply to "eco-terrorism." Just more word games.
Eco terrorism has always been treated with a light hand, for reasons that are in retrospect obvious, with all the funding thats been going on. Shit like spiking is presented as not being about forcing legal change via hurting people, but by making doing the thing they want outlawed so dangerous as to make the law moot. They're not hurting people, they're just protecting nature, and we wouldn't have to do this if the government would just outlaw the thing in the first place.

Its complete weasel word bullshit.
 
They'd be charged for both, you're arguing semantics at this point.
It's not semantics, they are two very different things. It's like murdering a guy and saying it is a misdemeanor assault. You're the one getting anal about definitions in the first place.
 
For all the fear mongering the leftists do about fascism, they sure are happy with letting an unelected lawyer have complete control over the government. I mean if we were a dictatorship at least we'd know
Leftist can't understand that fascism at it's core is MORE government WHAT THEY fight for. While they bitch about the Trump presidency that REDUCE the government power.
For all the tesla shit ?
Is it terrorism? Legally, U.S. code defines it as violent acts meant to intimidate or coerce for political ends. Burning cars and shooting up dealerships fits that if it’s ideological, not just random rage. Data’s thin on injuries—most attacks target property, not people directly—but the intent to scare Tesla owners and disrupt the company seems clear. Still, not every incident’s linked to the left; some could be opportunists or lone nuts. The scale’s notable though—dozens of incidents since January, per outlets like Forbes and The Guardian.
Contrast that with the left’s “fascist” label-throwing. It’s ironic—those decrying authoritarianism are torching private property, a move straight out of the chaos playbook they claim to oppose. Hypocrisy’s thick here, but it’s less about ideology’s purity and more about tribal tactics. Both sides play dirty when cornered; this is just the left’s current flavor of tantrum. Whether it’s terrorism or just crime, it’s escalating—and Tesla owners are caught in the crossfire.
 
It's not semantics, they are two very different things. It's like murdering a guy and saying it is a misdemeanor assault.
You can be charged with multiple things and convicted of both, neither, or 1 of them. It's why prosecutors more often than not over charge, to get someone on one thing. Again it is very semantical when this wasn't even the original point.
And fyi, vandalism can be a felony as well depending on the damage done.
 
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The violence of setting fire to Teslas was just inevitable after the violence of BLM on the left was allowed to go unchecked. It is rage against their fellow citizen. There's still the veneer to not murder them, but that's probably relatively thin at this point.

I think the most startling thing I noticed is the denial there was the violence and destruction from the left from people I know on that "side." The brain washing they are the good side, what is the good side and who is the bad people made them unable to understand people one their "side" could be bad or do bad things.
To me, it appears that firebombing Teslas is a proxy to indirectly attack/threaten Elon Musk. So, yes I would consider this terrorism as a political statement. I thought the Tesla makeshift bomb at a Trump hotel was a one-off by a psycho.
 
I just take this very long walk to explain why our cutting of foreign aid isent some travesty, its stoping these countries being able to take advantage of their own people for pennies
I'm mostly super dubious about foreign aid because I'm certain most of it ends up being stolen by corruption or inefficiency or nepotism and shit like that. If these shithold countries didn't have corruption in the first place then they wouldn't need foreign aid to begin with.
I thought the Tesla makeshift bomb at a Trump hotel was a one-off by a psycho.
If anything the Tesla firebombing on the first day of the presidency was probably an inspiration to a ton of people. It looked straight out of a fucking movie, much like the aesthetic of the Luigi shooting and it no doubt scared the shit out of Elon Musk.

So even though the guy ended up being a Trump supporter he probably instigated a bunch of shit inadvertently by blowing up that truck.
 
You can be charged with multiple things and convicted of both, neither, or 1 of them. It's why prosecutors more often than not over charge, to get someone on one thing. Again it is very semantical when this wasn't even the original point.
If you commit arson you are not getting charged with "petty acts of vandalism" as they are not even in the same league, maybe "destruction of property" but definitely not petty vandalism. It does relate to the original point because I don't think someone who doesn't know the difference between those two should be lecturing us on what counts as terrorism or not.
 
If you commit arson you are not getting charged with "petty acts of vandalism" as they are not even in the same league, maybe "destruction of property" but definitely not petty vandalism. It does relate to the original point because I don't think someone who doesn't know the difference between those two should be lecturing us on what counts as terrorism or not.
Can we just get back to the original point, the word petty was used to describe the motivation not the crime. I'm sorry that you don't understand that vandalism is also a felony if more than $400 of damage is dealt. Seriously is it this hard to not grab onto one singular word to try and dismiss an entire argument when that wasn't even the original point. Like jesus christ fine he'd be charged with arson and felony vandalism. It doesn't matter what terminology is used my point is still correct retard.
Terrorism by it's very own legal definition, requires there to be an ideological driven nature behind it, that was the point. I'm honestly getting a little tired of you people trying to bring in what if scenarios and saying "this is terrorism" when your scenarios either already include an ideology in them or don't have one at all.
 
See, that's what's odd about JFK: he was both critical of the CIA while using them all the time in Southeast Asia. He wasn't against fighting communism, he just had a different idea about how to go about doing it. There was also the fact that JFK regularly conversed with Eisenhower, who was likewise averse to direct conflict with the Soviets.
I think it was @neger psykolog that compared JFK's relationship with the CIA to a "Byzantine fault." From my understanding of it, say there's a tower and multiple generals are tasked to attack it for success. Some generals DON'T attack because the order was lost in translation, sabotage or MIA. With that logic, the CIA either miscommunicated an order to kill the president or somebody went rogue and intentionally muddied the line of communication. Wrong place, wrong time especially with the Red Scare of the 60s.
 
Leftist can't understand that fascism at it's core is MORE government WHAT THEY fight for. While they bitch about the Trump presidency that REDUCE the government power.
For all the tesla shit ?
Is it terrorism? Legally, U.S. code defines it as violent acts meant to intimidate or coerce for political ends. Burning cars and shooting up dealerships fits that if it’s ideological, not just random rage. Data’s thin on injuries—most attacks target property, not people directly—but the intent to scare Tesla owners and disrupt the company seems clear. Still, not every incident’s linked to the left; some could be opportunists or lone nuts. The scale’s notable though—dozens of incidents since January, per outlets like Forbes and The Guardian.
Contrast that with the left’s “fascist” label-throwing. It’s ironic—those decrying authoritarianism are torching private property, a move straight out of the chaos playbook they claim to oppose. Hypocrisy’s thick here, but it’s less about ideology’s purity and more about tribal tactics. Both sides play dirty when cornered; this is just the left’s current flavor of tantrum. Whether it’s terrorism or just crime, it’s escalating—and Tesla owners are caught in the crossfire.
They want fascism when it benefits them. The more power on their side, the better. Everything else is irrelevant.
 
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