US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[neger psykolog]

Goalposts moved. I'm using that message to counteract your point because your own words disprove your point. Go to law school buddy to learn how the legal world works

Sorry I'm retarded like you, I can't read what you're even saying here.

 

[Betonhaus]

For what it's worth the FBI considers tree-spiking to be "eco-terrorim" whatever that is.

The Threat of Eco-Terrorism

Before the House Resources Committee, Subcommittee on Forests and Forest Health

archives.fbi.gov

It's putting metal in a tree in a way that someone using a chainsaw would have the saw recoil and strike their neck and kill them. Modern chainsaws have safeties that help but still

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

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Motherfuckers just like this guy praised mob violence when a fentanyl addict died and they needed to get the Orange Man out of office. Now they're realizing the same mob is still thirsty for violence and there's no positive way to spin it.

It's your guys' monster. Either you kill it or the president whom you tried to destroy does. And he's not going to stop with the monster, he'll get the people who made it.

 

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For what it's worth the FBI considers tree-spiking to be "eco-terrorim" whatever that is.

The Threat of Eco-Terrorism

Before the House Resources Committee, Subcommittee on Forests and Forest Health

archives.fbi.gov

Terrorism by ecological activists. With the Tesla arsonists being cheered on by the left, it's just a hop skip and a jump before these idiots start firebombing gas stations to try and stop people from using cars without their permission.

Or if you're asking what tree-spiking is, it's sabotaging trees by shoving huge chunks of metal inside them. When a lumberjack shows up to chop the tree down, BEST CASE SCENARIO the saw is damaged slightly and the operation is stopped. Yay, Eco-terrorists win! More common scenario is the sawblade spinning at fuck me RPMs hits the piece of steel or iron in the tree and explodes in a cloud of shrapnel that kills loggers, or a chainsaw hits it and kicks back (or launches the fucking spike backwards at the logger) and they're injured or killed. Yay, Eco-terrorists win, suck it chuds!

It's the kind of thing that makes little faggot leftists go missing in the woods afterwards.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

yet you're trying to say some dumbfuck who lets just say as an example burns down a starbucks because he doesn't want the baristas to wear aprons is within this definition.

Well, what about the aprons got him fired up? Maybe he is anti sweatshop and Starbucks aprions were made with unethical means and he wants to pressure companies to ethically source their uniforms by burning down properties.

You can target private businesses to scare them into adopting policies for political reasons and it is often a more effective strategy than targeting the goverment itself and trying to force them to pass legislation.

If they say burned down said logging businesses because they didn't use their favorite brand of saws then it wouldn't be ideological it would fall under petty acts of vandalism.

I'm pretty sure it would fall under arson my dude.

 

[StudMccool]

So Ive seen quite a bit of whining about interest rates in the USA on here and other places


source

Yes I know its not great or whatever but I wanted tot make a quick moment to give everyone a tiny bit of perspective what that real world comparison to the "shitholes" we joke about so often

Id like to introduce you all to Nigeria, the most populous country in all of Africa and only 100 million less people than us.


What pray tell is there national interest rate? get an absurd number in your head, this is a country with over 200 MILLION people, what does the government charge on their OWN loans?


But thats not even close to the best part, the reason I fell down this rabbit hole in the first place is I found this absurdly sketchy mobile loan app called PalmCredit (thats a link to their google playstore page, Id be careful going to the actual website, likely scrapes info like you wouldent believe)

Im sure plenty of you are asking why ANY of this matters, stick with me, im going to make it all make sense

So if the state is charging nearly 30% APR what is a shady mobile "micro-loan" app offer? When I tell you its bad enough to make an orthodox Jew blush Im not kidding


50% APR, once again still not the best (or most egregious part) Check out what is tucked away in the "extra info"

1.2% DAILY COMPOUND INTEREST, for those of you unaware compound intrest is one of THE most powerful forces in the know universe. $100 at 1.2% daily compound interest yields over $6,000 in 1 year.

Keep in mind this is all for a currency where half a million of their shitbux(Naira) translate to about 300 USD

Computer how much US aid does Nigeria receive yearly?


I just take this very long walk to explain why our cutting of foreign aid isent some travesty, its stoping these countries being able to take advantage of their own people for pennies

Honestly have to share just one more video I found in all this

PalmCredit DOES NOT play games with people who dont pay up, watch this little nog get litteraly picked up and put in the back of a van by BRANDED employees over what is likely less than 100 USD difference

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

For what it's worth the FBI considers tree-spiking to be "eco-terrorim" whatever that is.

The Threat of Eco-Terrorism

Before the House Resources Committee, Subcommittee on Forests and Forest Health

archives.fbi.gov

I lived the in the area at the time and have a friend who damn near got killed by a tree spike.

Like most Leftist and Democratic ops, it entirely keeps them out of harms way and keeps them from getting caught due to the fact that they are long gone when the damage happens.

What used to happen is that they go to where the loggers are working, usually at night, and look for marked trees or, if the area was being clearcut, just random trees.

Then they drove a long metal spike into the tree at an angle from chest high to knee high. Pro-ones would then glue bark back on once it was hammered in. Other ones would do random small spikes or a ring of small spikes.

What happens is the chainsaw hits that metal spike and has a HIGH chance of breaking the chain. That 80% of the time sent the broken chain whipsawing back to rip open the neck/chest/face of the guy running the saw. Tearing straight through his protective gear.

It started killing people. The Left, particularly the eco-faggots of the West Coast, started celebrating. As in, places like Evergreen College actually celebrated the deaths of these people in the same way they would later celebrate entire towns being destroyed by eco-lawfare. Evergreen actually had a board where they'd put the news article and pictures if they could get them.

That's when cameras went up and were hidden.

Most leftists don't think anyone who isn't a liberal understands or uses technology, so they were shocked that the cameras recorded them doing the deed.

They KNEW it would kill the loggers.

They did it to sow terror, to say "if you don't stop like we want you to, we will kill you at random..."

They laughed and giggled about it.

Once that got terrorist activity slapped on it, that's when CA legislators and NGOs got involved and made logging nearly illegal on the West Coast so that the Sierra Club could buy up the land, clear cut it, strip mine the land, then let it turn into bushland that catches on fire every year.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Terrorism by ecological activists. With the Tesla arsonists being cheered on by the left, it's just a hop skip and a jump before these idiots start firebombing gas stations to try and stop people from using cars without their permission.

I'm just waiting for us to get our first instance of a Tesla being attacked with an armed driver in it, and the ensuing terrorist death. It only takes one retard to decide to start attacking occupied vehicles because empty ones 'aren't getting the message across', and its going to turn into another Rittenhouse level case.

I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but without the USAID orgs to seemingly organize the rabble, the rabbles self escalating, online rhetoric is no longer being filtered out from real life action.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Eco-terrorists deserve the rope.

 

[Barleys]

I'm pretty sure it would fall under arson my dude.

They'd be charged for both, you're arguing semantics at this point

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

It's putting metal in a tree in a way that someone using a chainsaw would have the saw recoil and strike their neck and kill them. Modern chainsaws have safeties that help but still

Ha I know what tree-spiking is I meant whatever "eco-terrorism" is since other sources say terrorism laws don't apply to "eco-terrorism." Just more word games.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

I'm just waiting for us to get our first instance of a Tesla being attacked with an armed driver in it, and the ensuing terrorist death. It only takes one retard to decide to start attacking occupied vehicles because empty ones 'aren't getting the message across', and its going to turn into another Rittenhouse level case.

I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but without the USAID orgs to seemingly organize the rabble, the rabbles self escalating, online rhetoric is no longer being filtered out from real life action.

It'll be the court case that decides it.

THAT was what REALLY infuriates the Left.

Not that Rittenhouse shot 3 guys at random and hit a wife beater, a child molester, and a rapist.

No, it's that, in their minds, he got away with it in court. Not that he was innocent, but he somehow magically got away with it.

It won't be shooting one of the foot soldiers in the face that will change shit.

It will be if the trial lets the guy off or not.

If he gets Murder One and a life sentence, the Left KNOWS they now have a clear cut mandate to start firebombing Teslas with families inside because the Right hesitates.

If he gets off, the Left turns into screeching monkeys because now they know that drivers will just fucking shoot the Molly wielding faggot.

 

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I'm just waiting for us to get our first instance of a Tesla being attacked with an armed driver in it, and the ensuing terrorist death. It only takes one retard to decide to start attacking occupied vehicles because empty ones 'aren't getting the message across', and its going to turn into another Rittenhouse level case.

I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but without the USAID orgs to seemingly organize the rabble, the rabbles self escalating, online rhetoric is no longer being filtered out from real life action.

Yes, we saw this with all kinds of shit with the culture war. The rabble doesn't understand WHY tactics work, they just know if they do X then they win, so X is an I Win Button for the culture war, right? Well, not always. It's a particularly annoying problem for the left especially since they have increasingly become reliant on Shaniquas to do their grunt work.

I can't imagine how they're going to thread the needle of trying to get some Days of Rage shit going with Zoomer chicks (fucking retarded) and Zoomer Shaniquas (even worse). All while an admin is openly hostile to them AND eagerly awaiting the chance to pin this shit on non-useful idiot leftists and start ripping shit out at the seams.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Eco-terrorists deserve the rope plastic six-pack ring.

Fixed that for you.

Ha I know what tree-spiking is I meant whatever "eco-terrorism" is since other sources say terrorism laws don't apply to "eco-terrorism." Just more word games.

Eco terrorism has always been treated with a light hand, for reasons that are in retrospect obvious, with all the funding thats been going on. Shit like spiking is presented as not being about forcing legal change via hurting people, but by making doing the thing they want outlawed so dangerous as to make the law moot. They're not hurting people, they're just protecting nature, and we wouldn't have to do this if the government would just outlaw the thing in the first place.

Its complete weasel word bullshit.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

They'd be charged for both, you're arguing semantics at this point.

It's not semantics, they are two very different things. It's like murdering a guy and saying it is a misdemeanor assault. You're the one getting anal about definitions in the first place.

 

[SugarKane]

For all the fear mongering the leftists do about fascism, they sure are happy with letting an unelected lawyer have complete control over the government. I mean if we were a dictatorship at least we'd know

Leftist can't understand that fascism at it's core is MORE government WHAT THEY fight for. While they bitch about the Trump presidency that REDUCE the government power.
For all the tesla shit ?
Is it terrorism? Legally, U.S. code defines it as violent acts meant to intimidate or coerce for political ends. Burning cars and shooting up dealerships fits that if it’s ideological, not just random rage. Data’s thin on injuries—most attacks target property, not people directly—but the intent to scare Tesla owners and disrupt the company seems clear. Still, not every incident’s linked to the left; some could be opportunists or lone nuts. The scale’s notable though—dozens of incidents since January, per outlets like Forbes and The Guardian.
Contrast that with the left’s “fascist” label-throwing. It’s ironic—those decrying authoritarianism are torching private property, a move straight out of the chaos playbook they claim to oppose. Hypocrisy’s thick here, but it’s less about ideology’s purity and more about tribal tactics. Both sides play dirty when cornered; this is just the left’s current flavor of tantrum. Whether it’s terrorism or just crime, it’s escalating—and Tesla owners are caught in the crossfire.

 

[Barleys]

It's not semantics, they are two very different things. It's like murdering a guy and saying it is a misdemeanor assault.

You can be charged with multiple things and convicted of both, neither, or 1 of them. It's why prosecutors more often than not over charge, to get someone on one thing. Again it is very semantical when this wasn't even the original point.
And fyi, vandalism can be a felony as well depending on the damage done.

 

[The Last Stand]

The violence of setting fire to Teslas was just inevitable after the violence of BLM on the left was allowed to go unchecked. It is rage against their fellow citizen. There's still the veneer to not murder them, but that's probably relatively thin at this point.

I think the most startling thing I noticed is the denial there was the violence and destruction from the left from people I know on that "side." The brain washing they are the good side, what is the good side and who is the bad people made them unable to understand people one their "side" could be bad or do bad things.

To me, it appears that firebombing Teslas is a proxy to indirectly attack/threaten Elon Musk. So, yes I would consider this terrorism as a political statement. I thought the Tesla makeshift bomb at a Trump hotel was a one-off by a psycho.

 

[neger psykolog]

I just take this very long walk to explain why our cutting of foreign aid isent some travesty, its stoping these countries being able to take advantage of their own people for pennies

I'm mostly super dubious about foreign aid because I'm certain most of it ends up being stolen by corruption or inefficiency or nepotism and shit like that. If these shithold countries didn't have corruption in the first place then they wouldn't need foreign aid to begin with.

I thought the Tesla makeshift bomb at a Trump hotel was a one-off by a psycho.

If anything the Tesla firebombing on the first day of the presidency was probably an inspiration to a ton of people. It looked straight out of a fucking movie, much like the aesthetic of the Luigi shooting and it no doubt scared the shit out of Elon Musk.

So even though the guy ended up being a Trump supporter he probably instigated a bunch of shit inadvertently by blowing up that truck.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

You can be charged with multiple things and convicted of both, neither, or 1 of them. It's why prosecutors more often than not over charge, to get someone on one thing. Again it is very semantical when this wasn't even the original point.

If you commit arson you are not getting charged with "petty acts of vandalism" as they are not even in the same league, maybe "destruction of property" but definitely not petty vandalism. It does relate to the original point because I don't think someone who doesn't know the difference between those two should be lecturing us on what counts as terrorism or not.