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Should be a wild four years.

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mold said:
probably not because I know this from living through the era and being personally acquainted with a bunch of the players. there was extensive journalism about it in the 90s and there are good bibliographies indexing this journalism in the buttloads of phd theses that have been written on the subject but finding this shit requires university affiliation and/or insane autism

it's this scholarship done on earth first and associated groups that is presented to policy groups and government committees and it's extremely pro-terrorist. the groups are basically treated like the UN currently treats Hamas.

this is probably where the idea that ecoterrorists are "treated with kid gloves" comes from, because right now, the *image* of the ecoterrorists of the 90s is heavily laundered and if you google for stuff like earth first and ELF you will find faggot opinion pieces about how they were good boyz who loved the erf and dindu nuffin. But on the ground at the time the FBI was taking this shit very cereal and running active couterterrorism gayops. (the ops were frequently actually gay in that actual gay relationships were established between agents and terrorists)

I recommend reading Pynchon's novel Vineland for a sense of the vibe of the time.
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Yeah it sounds about right that in the time period before the internet that could be scrubbed clean like that, rip.
 
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It's always a good day when a dumpy, unfuckable cat lady is humiliated in public.
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I almost want to believe it's fake just because of how unbelievably perfect it is. Annoying white lady trying to explain proper behavior to what looks like a hispanic dude while what sounds like an exhausted old black guy tries telling her that she's the problem, so she resorts to failed physical interaction to the amusement of the world star chorus? It's fucking poetry in motion.
 
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George Lucas said:
What happened to arresting Trump via the ‘War Act’?
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I dunno for sure but my guess is that either Boasberg or someone in his inner circle pointed out it much easier/safer to go after Trump and Co on contempt charges rather then dig out and seldom used power and run the risk of it being ? That be my guess.

The places I lurk have been saying that the DoJ only sent in one answer to the Judge not the 4 and said the rest was classified which really pissed off Boasberg as he is a NCIS level judge but Trump does have the power to classify/declassify anything he wants so...yah? This is what seems to really have cheesed off Boasberg who I think wants to drag Trump himself into his courtroom where he's the one in control and can lecture Trump to his hearts content.

I do wunder if this is the case that Trump chooses to force his showdown?

I mean there couldn't be a better case for Trump to try to force a showdown on. This judge is literally demanding ordering that criminals, drug dealers and gang-bangers be not only brought back to the US but released all because Orange Man Bad the proper paperwork wasn't filed.

Yah, that's not going to go over well with the American Public. Sure the Proggies and MSM will scream for joy just because Trump got a L but Joe Shmoo won't be happy to hear that. Trump's approval ratings have never been higher and the Dem's have never been lower so I don't see the Dem's winning this one.

IMHO 2 things may happen if the judge does go ahead and place Trump and Co on contempt

1. Nothing, the judge makes a lot of noise and the MSM screams blue murder at Trump ignoring a "lawfull" order. Sure Trump has ignored a court order but the court is retarded. Sure the judge issues a arrest warrant for Trump and Co but who will fulfill it? Will the DC PoPo try to arrest Trump at the WhiteHouse? Something tells me no. Will the Dem's try to push though a impeachment? Doubtfull, they've never been weaker and don't have the support to make it happen so the warrants are just big nothing burgers.

2. Trump uses this to force the SCOTUS to do...something? If the judge issues contetmp charges and tries to force the issue Roberts will have to do something, what I have no clue and it may not be in Trump's favor as Roberts cares far more about his legacy and the power of the judiciary then any silly thing like justice or fairness.

So yah...lets just wait and see. I'm no lawfag so I can only guess at what these big brains will do.
 
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Lammy said:
I think the incredibly pragmatic answer is:
Bibi says "lol it was previous jews running the show! not us!", and Trump concurs with "yeah it's like a different admin, like Crooked Joe!" and then we send another 3b in aid. Societal discontent with the petitioners of Herod increases by another 2%. Nothing ever happens.
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To be fair bibi would have a solid argument. The kikes hated the party that would become Likud. Like straight up said the party founder was a terrorist and even had Albert Einstein condemning him.
Northern Blockhead said:
The fuck does Trump mean by Cats not being woke
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The cats are jellicle why do you think they're woke?
mold said:
recommend reading Pynchon's novel Vineland for a sense of the vibe of the time.
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You mean the novel getting a film adaptation by an a list cast later this year?
 
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Not surprised about the Boeing announcement, Boeing Defense Systems has generally always their shit together compared to the commercial side, which is just now again ramping up with improved QC and oversight.

The St Louis MO site, which is basically the old McDonnell-Douglass defense division headquarters, was and continues to be the sole production site for bunch of well-regarded fighters and attack aircraft. They added an unnamed 6th gen fighter to the official site logo last year, and some of the guys I used to work with say they're in the process of demolishing the old abandoned McD factory to erect a new facility

I think there's a different 6th gen navy contact that will probably go to Lockmart with general dynamics as a primary supplier, this is for the Air Force contract and will likely be built in partnership with Northrop like the Super Hornet
 
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Sweeter and Savoury said:
I dunno for sure but my guess is that either Boasberg or someone in his inner circle pointed out it much easier/safer to go after Trump and Co on contempt charges rather then dig out and seldom used power and run the risk of it being ? That be my guess.
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This smells very much like copium stewing from some Liberal echo chamber. You may want to be more forthcoming about what your channels are.

Trump has been in the lawfare system since at least 2016, including criminal indictments. In all of that time, not once has he ever been held in contempt, even after being accused of ignoring a gag order. So it would be very strange if in a hearing where he is not even in the court room, he gets held in contempt of court. Furthermore, the type of contempt would be indirect contempt. This provides for a hearing. And even if they are truly found in contempt, the only way to enforce it would be through the U.S. Marshals. Contrary to popular belief, the Marshals are not part of the Judicial Branch. They are controlled by the Executive Branch. The DOJ would simply never order them to make arrests and the judgement would be moot. This is an example of the Judicial Branch’s inability to enforce any rule of law against the Executive Branch, as we’ve known since Marbury v. Madison.
 
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Disaffected Coyote said:
There's 2 renders going around twitter of what the F-47 looks like, might be total bullshit.

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>replacement for the F-22, a true air superiority fighter
>no empennage
It will have a decent roll rate, but unless those are thrust vectoring engine exhausts in both pitch and yaw, I guess the USAF is changing the air superiority doctrine from a pure fighter to an over-the-horizon drone control platform.
 
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